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    Anirudh Arun
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    Kate Winslet is just splendid as is the show. The HBO “troubled people as detectives” prototype is really working wonders. First they had True Detective, then Sharp Objects and now Mare of Easttown. Each of these shows are similar, at the same time so unique and enthralling. I’m impressed.

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    It’s honestly such a shame that Winslet probably has very little chance at winning the Emmy. What I like about her performance here is how it’s not a very superficial portrayal. It’s also not one in which Winslet relies on over the top theatrics. It’s an incredibly nuanced performance yet it’s not too subtle. We already have a great level of understanding in this woman’s character from the first two episodes alone. We have an insight into her psychoanalysis and her trauma without the show having to set up a “flashback episode”.

    Where she ends up in my personal awards I don’t know (largely due to the show not having finished airing yet) but with the exception of Michaela Coel, I don’t think there is a single performance from a top contender in this category that I’ve seen that I prefer to Winslet’s. I wholeheartedly echo Tyler’s words.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    Can’t say enough how thrilling Kate Winslet is in this role, and how she’s doing things I never would have expected or thought she was capable of. It’s going to be a sad day when she and Michaela Coel both lose the Emmy to Anya Taylor-Joy, but at least Winslet will have the winter awards all to herself next year. This was a transitional episode, which is fine. Heartbreaking seeing Mare lose her gun and badge, but that’s not gonna stop our girl, will it? The drug-planting seemed out of character to me, not that she wouldn’t do anything to preserve her family, but just doing something so rash that can be easily traced and discovered. The captain should have fired her outright, but that wouldn’t serve the narrative, and she’ll likely be reinstated before this ends. I didn’t realize that Sosie Bacon was Kyra Sedgwick and Kevin Bacon’s daughter. That’s something. Loved the confrontation scene with Frank. The last time I saw David Denham in anything was “The Office,” so I’m glad he’s been given this chance. Some things I’m less interested in, like anything with the daughter and her trite band, and I’m hoping Guy Pearce gets more to do than this. Evan Peters is a needed countering presence to Winslet, especially when Zabel is shamelessly trying to impress Mare unsuccessfully. Nothing impresses Mare ever! But that bar scene was really overshooting it. This ain’t a Ryan Murphy joint, Evan lmao. Jean Smart though, I knew she wouldn’t sign on this show just to be a doting grandma. As for the deacon (!), I normally never give credence to early suspects in murder shows, but damn, he’s looking very guilty at present. Can’t think of any sort of unintentionally good reason for him to have and dump Erin’s bike in the river like that. I need the next episode right now!

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    This episode was so good! What I really like about this show is that we get to see the characters in their regular lives rather only being used to push the plot forward which is the case in many mystery shows. Also, especially this episode generated so much online buzz. I can’t see this show missing series and lead actress.

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    Kate continues to be flawless and should absolutely be in contention for the win. I don’t think it’s just some done deal for ATJ at all.

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    I don’t think it’s just some done deal for ATJ at all.

    I wish that was the case (I like it when races are competitive) but how many shows and performers have swept the entire season and come up short at the Emmys?

    Ask me again in a few weeks and I might change my mind but I think Winslet will be the Blanchett of this year (win worthy acclaimed performance but is unable to win due to the lack of novelty and passion for the show – as good as it is).

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    Um, quite a few? Recently, Patricia Arquette and Sandra Oh (though that was in drama)! Sweeping the precursors doesn’t favor you as often as one would think. I think that’s in large part due to fatigue setting in and people embracing other performers from more recent shows. Mare of Easttown is becoming a word-of-mouth hit at the moment, while TQG will be a distant memory come Sept., as big as that show was. Plus, ATJ has already won all the awards, so they might want to give it to someone else–especially to someone who isn’t carried by her show.

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    Um, quite a few? Recently, Patricia Arquette and Sandra Oh!

    Patricia Arquette lost to one of the most acclaimed lead performances in that category of recent times and was awarded by voters in the supporting actress category that same year. Sandra Oh swept for a different season of her show to the one she competed with at the Emmys.

    Mare of Easttown is becoming a word-of-mouth hit at the moment, while TQG will be a distant memory come Sept. Plus, ATJ has already won all the awards, so they might want to give it to someone else–especially to someone who isn’t carried by her show.

    Is it really going to be that distant a memory when it’s Netflix’s most watched limited series of all time, has swept the winter awards and Anya Taylor-Joy is hosting SNL later this month?

    I understand where you’re coming from on this and I do prefer Winslet’s performance to Taylor-Joy’s but I feel like the popularity of Winslet’s show doesn’t neccessarily guarantee it large Emmy success (I don’t disagree that it will be nominated). As of late voters seem to have gravitated towards shows with more novel concepts and performances with more of a shock factor which as excellent as Mare of Easttown and Winslet’s performance are – I feel like they’re lagging in that department when I see people’s reactions to the show outside Gold Derby.

    Case in point Sharp Objects was a more popular show than Escape at Dannemora and was quite acclaimed yet it struggled due to there not being enough passion for another A list led murder mystery.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    Case in point Sharp Objects was a more popular show than Escape at Dannemora and was quite acclaimed yet it struggled due to there not being enough passion for another A list led murder mystery.

    Thanks for proving my point, since Sharp Objects came out extremely early in the Emmy cycle. 😊 But we’ll see, I could be misled.

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    Based on what I’ve been seeing on social media so far, Mare of Easttown seems much more talked than Mrs. America and especially Fosse/Verdon. But we shall see. I definetely think Anya is not locked and if there’s someone who can stomp her, that person is Kate Winslet.

    It's about the chaotic editing in Moulin Rouge!

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    wolfali actually seems to have a bias towards predicting Mare of Easttown for some reason. He’s predicting 7 nominees at TCA including It’s a Sin and Hamilton, but he’s not predicting a show with good buzz and 81 on Metacritic such as Mare.

    Also, Mare will probably be HBO’s big push in the Limited categories and we know how these categories *looove* HBO.

    It's about the chaotic editing in Moulin Rouge!

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    I doubt Winslet beats Taylor-Joy. Mare of Easttown is growing for sure, but it’s not going to come close to TQG levels, and ATJ is having a capital-M Moment in a way that people are going to want to reward. That’s not going to change by September, especially with hype for her probable Oscar nom vehicle increasing right at that point.

    Plus, ATJ has already won all the awards, so they might want to give it to someone else–especially to someone who isn’t carried by her show.

    This is a valid opinion, but obviously not one that voters from any organizations have shared, and I doubt that’ll change in the next few months.

    Emmys FYC: Maya Erskine in PEN15, Paapa Essiedu in I May Destroy You, Keeley Hawes in It's a Sin, Carl Lumbly in TFATWS, Cristin Milioti in Made for Love, Elizabeth Olsen in WandaVision, Billie Piper in I Hate Suzie, Hailee Steinfeld in Dickinson, William Zabka in Cobra Kai

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    Thanks for proving my point, since Sharp Objects came out extremely early in the Emmy cycle. 😊 But we’ll see, I could be misled.

    Umm that wasn’t what I was trying to say but ok!

    My point was more that Sharp Objects and Mare of Easttown both suffered from lacking novelty (even if that’s contrary to my personal opinion on the quality of the shows). Another example is Spring release Mrs. America (which whilst I thought personally was innovative when it came to the biopic formula, a significant number disagreed) losing to Autumn release Watchmen (a prestigious superhero show with social relevancy).

    Whilst Mare of Easttown is definitely Emmy worthy so far and I do think Winslet is more deserving than Taylor-Joy (I just posted a rave on this page!), I think the fact TV Academy voters ultimately have been gravitating towards more “novel” pieces in these categories recently ultimately hurts its chances.

    that person is Kate Winslet.

    I actually think Coel is ahead (like Haas was ahead of Blanchett last year) but that’s just me.

    But anyway this is a Mare of Easttown thread not an Emmy thread. So I’ll end there.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    Another great episode. I’m really loving the pacing of this show. One thing in particular that I appreciated was they immediately told us that Dylan wasn’t dead after Erin’s father shot him. I feel like in a lesser show that would have been something we found out later in the season – like, look he’s actually alive! That sort surprise/shock can be a bit cheap, imo. I’m glad that wasn’t the case here. Instead things happen as they would in real life – problems arise, they’re addressed and they’re resolved (or not lol) like Frank potentially being the father of Erin’s kid.

    Mare is such a fascinating character to me. She’s clearly very good at her job, and she seems to take great pride in it, but she’s willing to jeopardize it in order to keep custody of Drew. The guilt of not being a good mother to Kevin is constantly eating away at her (and it’s played brilliantly by Kate), so much so that it’s like she sees Drew as some sort of redemption. I feel like she views him almost as a do-over, or an extension of Kevin, and she wants to get it right this time. It’s really interesting to watch – the writing is so strong.

    I can’t wait for next week! I wonder how Mare will insert herself back into the investigation.

    Oh also, Evan Peter’s drunk acting at the bar was A+. Whew!

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    I’ve officially thrown Peters in. I said a while back that all the hype surrounding his name from WandaVision would help him if his role was good, and I’m admittedly not caught up past episode 1 so I haven’t seen him yet, but the fact that people are discussing his performance is good enough for me. I also just want him to get his long-overdue nomination SO bad.

    Emmys FYC: Maya Erskine in PEN15, Paapa Essiedu in I May Destroy You, Keeley Hawes in It's a Sin, Carl Lumbly in TFATWS, Cristin Milioti in Made for Love, Elizabeth Olsen in WandaVision, Billie Piper in I Hate Suzie, Hailee Steinfeld in Dickinson, William Zabka in Cobra Kai

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