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    M: The Original
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    7/16 of the acting winners were black. Surely this must be a record

    Black twitter is still bitching that ain’t enough.

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    (I am slightly worried about next year, but I think at this point, I’m worried about everything next year and not just HBO lol)

    Next year will be fine (in terms of the Emmys in general not HBO). The Crown will sweep in the worst case scenario and even then if the quality is higher than season 3 it probably would have been win competitive anyway.

    HBO is in trouble outside the Limited Series categories next year though.

    FYC OSCARS : VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", GLENN CLOSE FOR "HILLBILLY ELEGY", ANTHONY HOPKINS FOR "THE FATHER", CHADWICK BOSEMAN FOR "MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM", PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN (BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY).

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    I think we can put the “What will HBO do without Game of Thrones??”

    There was also a crap ton of “What Will HBO do without Sex & The City / The Sopranos” when they ended as well, they’ll be fine.

    I would start asking “What will AMC do without Saul/The Walking Dead” since they’re pretty much dead without them (critically & commercially).

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    I would start asking “What will AMC do without Saul/The Walking Dead” since they’re pretty much dead without them (critically & commercially).

    They’ll just keep acquiring British shows and become more British than BBC America lol.

    FYC OSCARS : VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", GLENN CLOSE FOR "HILLBILLY ELEGY", ANTHONY HOPKINS FOR "THE FATHER", CHADWICK BOSEMAN FOR "MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM", PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN (BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY).

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    Here is my statistics article, mostly about program achievements: https://www.goldderby.com/article/2020/emmy-records-watchmen-schitts-creek/

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    Although it’s truly the highest honour to be nominated, it’s a little alarming that Sandra Oh hasn’t won a single Emmy from all of her nominations. She’s enormously respected and the sheer number of years she has been acknowledged proves that, but they need to rectify this in the coming years.

    If you told me a couple of months ago that Reese Witherspoon, Nicole Kidman, Jennifer Aniston, Brian Cox, Cate Blanchett, Merritt Wever, Tom Pelphrey and Sarah Paulson (among others!) would not be collecting trophies or not even be nominated on the night, I’d have laughed in your face. What an unpredictable award show the Emmys have become.

    The drama and limited winners were all so diverse and it was great to see different performers and shows rewarded. The comedy sweep from Schitts was so unexpected and cool! I’ve never watched the series before, I may have to give it a go. And Dan Levy putting 4 Emmys on his living room shelf after one night? Incredible.

    The only thing that doesn’t sit well with me AT ALL is the treatment of Big Little Lies. There will never be a show like that with an ensemble like that ever again. Acting, writing, series, directing and producing should have been filled with BLL submissions.

    Fine, I’m still not over Reese only receiving 1 of her 6 deserving nominations but whatever.

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    This year was a bad one for cinematography and sound mixing, as Succession and Schitt’s Creek missed both, yet won series and directing. Succession even won editing! They did not have the excuse of late premieres; they were just snubbed and it did not matter.

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    This year was a bad one for cinematography and sound mixing, as Succession and Schitt’s Creek missed both,

    I was doing the most about Succession and Schitt’s Creek missing cinematography but now it makes sense. It’s not as if the latter’s cinematography is something seen to be a highlight of the show and the former was probably hindered by its stylistic choice of shaky camera movements.

    FYC OSCARS : VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", GLENN CLOSE FOR "HILLBILLY ELEGY", ANTHONY HOPKINS FOR "THE FATHER", CHADWICK BOSEMAN FOR "MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM", PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN (BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY).

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    I saw some report that Dan Levy is only the second person to win all 4 of his categories after Alan Alda (MASH) but the only one to do it in one year. Not sure but seems accurate. The other winners of 4 in one year that I know of had at least one below the line.

    Alan Alda never won for producing M*A*S*H

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    A bit of an obvious inevitability, but there are now two cable networks that aired a Comedy Series winner: HBO and Pop TV.

    Though of course if it wasn’t for streaming, I assume SC would have continued its level from its first 4 seasons.

    Netflix eventually winning Comedy or Drama seems inevitable, but I wonder if FX will, in the age of HBO + streaming domination…

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    FX could totally do it. They take a lot of risks in drama and comedy (more than in limited), and it churns out a lot of stuff that’s amazing but just not the type of thing the general public usually goes for (and therefore the Emmys don’t really go for). They give a lot of power to auteur creators and let them really run loose, especially in terms of style. Atlanta, Better Things, Fosse/Verdon, Fargo, and Legion are all great, but I’m not at all surprised they weren’t watercooler shows. However, I think it’s only a matter of time before something they make really crash lands in the zeitgeist. The Americans is probably the closest they’ve gotten, but it still didn’t hit the way shows like Fleabag or Succession have managed to, where it becomes must-watch “everyone is recommending this show” type of TV. FX has the critical acclaim, but they’re still working on the public hype part.

    This isn’t as much the case in limited, but I think they have Ryan Murphy to thank for that.

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    If Atlanta or What We Do In The Shadows are somehow eligible next year then I think FX has a chance, but it’ll be tough to say until we know about Barry and Maisel.

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    Not exactly a new record it’s odd since it’s now been 22 ceremonies since HBO exploded with Sopranos/Sex & The City and despite them being so dominate and nominated every year since, they’ve only won Outstanding Drama Series 7 times (2 Sopranos, 4 GoT, 1 Succession) (32.8% of all wins since). Nomination wise they’ve received 26 series nominations from 126 nominated seasons (20.6%)

    Granted, that is 1/3 of all wins & 1/5 of all nominations since 1999 but it just feels like less given how much they’ve dominated the culture.

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    Off the top of my head, Rudolph is at least the 3rd person to do this.

    Lee Grant won Outstanding Single Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role for “The Neon Ceiling” against her performance in “Columbo”, episode “Ransom for a Dead Man” in 1970-71. Then the following year Glenda Jackson did it in the same category winning for the “Elizabeth R” episode “The Shadow In The Sun” against another episode of the limited series called “The Lion’s Cub”. I’m guessing there is now a rule against what Jackson accomplished in addition to the fact that she also won Outstanding Continued Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role in a Dramatic Series for the whole thing.

    – Maya Rudolph has become the first person to win an acting category against themselves.

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    On a separate note I’m very surprised that the 2020 Creative Arts Emmys record of worst Emmy fail in category announcement was not broken on Sunday.

    FYC OSCARS : VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", GLENN CLOSE FOR "HILLBILLY ELEGY", ANTHONY HOPKINS FOR "THE FATHER", CHADWICK BOSEMAN FOR "MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM", PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN (BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY).

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