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    People are treating this show more as a guilty pleasure rather than prestige drama that’s why they are also watching The Queen’s Gambit.

    Little Fires Everywhere was also treated as a guilty pleasure as were the later seasons of Downton Abbey and Killing Eve yet that didn’t stop actors from voting for them.

    FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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    Travis Scott is now tweeting about The Undoing, saying he can’t wait for the final episode.

    When you get one of the biggest hip hop stars in the world tweeting about your show, you know it’s hit the zeitgeist..

    Hopefully the last episode doesn’t disappoint..

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    Travis Scott is now tweeting about The Undoing, saying he can’t wait for the final episode.

    When you get one of the biggest hip hop stars in the world tweeting about your show, you know it’s hit the zeitgeist..

    Hopefully the last episode doesn’t disappoint..

    And Nicole Kidman is responding to him. She knows getting the seal of approval from Travis Scott helps puts her show in a different category of broad based appeal (younger fans, hip-hop fans etc).

    https://twitter.com/DOGVILLE2004/status/1332908972362391553?s=19

    I feel this is probably a more zeitgeisty show in terms of penetrating popular culture than The Queen’s Gambit, which at least a few weeks ago was getting more hype as the zeitgeisty show of the moment. The Undoing seems to be attracting every demographic possible. Never realised it would/could become a big show with African-Americans, but the responses to Issa Rae and Travis Scott’s tweets and just more comments on social media suggest a lot of AA’s are digging the show.

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    Undoing twitter is hilarious. I can’t imagine tomorrow when killer is reveled. No matter who it is people will be commenting on it.

    my favorite response was Kerry Washington. She said her mom made the whole family write who they thought was killer on paper and locked it up till reveal

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    Episode Title: “The Bloody Truth”

    Synopsis: Haley walks an ethical tightrope in her defense strategy, and as the courtroom theater mounts, Grace takes measures to protect herself and her family; Series Finale.

    Discuss.

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    THE MOST LIVE-GIVING SERIES FINALE OF 2020 JUST HAPPENED!!! MIC EFFIN’ DROP!!!

    Ur favs could never…

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    The end felt a bit sudden, but it was a great finale nonetheless. Kidman, Grant, Sutherland, Dumezwani, and Jupe should all be nominated. And what a performance Grant gave in this last episode. The man’s truly been on a hot streak lately.

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    The best comparison I have for this show is Broadchurch season 2. Just like Broadchurch s2 it had inconceivable writing yet it was shot beautifully, the music was chilling, the ending didn’t really have much of a twist and some of the actors gave in some of their best work.

    I will echo Greg’s sentiment and say that it did feel like it ended suddenly but it was still a thoroughly entertaining finale. As is the show. The only reservations I have about this is that Kelley’s writing was absolutely ridiculous. It wasn’t even as if they were trying show a sense of realism. Would two New York detectives really interview a child by himself without his parent or lawyer present? Who would bring their child to a courtroom proceeding? Would Grace be allowed to tell her husband about her patients? At one point it felt like Haley was about to call Jonathan and Elena’s baby to the stand lol. Even parts of the story you’d think were so ludicrous like Grace not knowing Jonathan had been fired and him pretending to go to work and disappearing for hours felt like they made sense lol.

    However it really was genuinely a thriller. Regardless of personal qualitative thoughts on the writing what I liked about the actors and to an extent Bier’s direction is that it FELT like you were watching a thriller. Sometimes even in the most cleverly written shows the actors don’t feel like they are in thrillers. Grant, Dumezweni, Sutherland and Jupe were all excellent (especially Grant and Dumezweni) and deserve to be nominated and maybe even win. I’m here for Dumezweni getting more jobs in the future (she was underrated af anyway for her stage work) and I’m here for Grant’s career renaissance. I actually would go so far to say that I think those four are getting nominated. The supporting categories are super weak and I think Grant is win competitive for the Emmy.

    Now Kidman. She was great (in fact excellent in the second episode) at playing a woman having her “perfect life” unravelled however sometimes her portrayal felt a bit forced? For example I thought that final scene of episode 5 was quite poorly executed. I mean Kidman’s stare felt like this.

    Maybe its because I’ve seen better performances this year or maybe its because I just saw the pilot of The Flight Attendant and felt that Kaley Cuoco did the whole “woman with a perfectly life unravelled” act better but it wasn’t really a top tier Kidman performance. She’s still nomination worthy and had her moments (episode 2…) but she wasn’t as strong as I expected her to be (I’m a big Kidman stan btw and she gave one of my favourite performances of the season in BLL s2 of the 2019-20 cycle). I personally wouldn’t be surprised if she got snubbed at the Emmys due to the competitive field in her category (even though I think she’ll do well at the winter awards) even if the show comes like second at the Emmys. In another year I probably wouldn’t have minded her winning but I felt in that category on a personal level that Coel, Peet, Strahovski and Taylor-Joy gave stronger performances.

    I also will echo sentiments raised on here about how good it was HBO moved this to November. The type of snowy feeling made this a very good winter watch and whilst I don’t live in New York and haven’t been there since I was a small child it gave me a sense of nostalgia. Probably because of the lockdown.

    Ultimately a fun but not mind-blowing or groundbreaking thriller with some note-worthy performances and excellent coats.

    Season Grade: B
    Season MVP: Noma Dumezweni and Hugh Grant

    FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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    SPOILERS BELOW

    The fatal flaw of this show (besides the ridiculous writing) was that it was trying to be a murder mystery when it should have been a psychological thriller. Multiple episodes ended with cliffhangers (Grace’s walk, Henry hiding the murder weapon) because they were trying to keep us guessing about who the murderer was. But from the get go, it realistically couldn’t have been anyone but Jonathan. So, in that sense, it is not operating well as a murder mystery.

    Instead, what they should have focused on was how Grace, a Harvard-educated psychologist, was so blind to who her husband was after years of marriage. Instead of watching Grace reflect on her past to try to figure this out, we have to watch Nicole Kidman be shocked every time she learns new information. After a while, it becomes tedious. This show had the potential to explore something really fascinating but they shafted that element of the show in favor of a poorly thought out murder mystery.

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    SPOILERS BELOW The fatal flaw of this show (besides the ridiculous writing) was that it was trying to be a murder mystery when it should have been a psychological thriller. Multiple episodes ended with cliffhangers (Grace’s walk, Henry hiding the murder weapon) because they were trying to keep us guessing about who the murderer was. But from the get go, it realistically couldn’t have been anyone but Jonathan. So, in that sense, it is not operating well as a murder mystery. Instead, what they should have focused on was how Grace, a Harvard-educated psychologist, was so blind to who her husband was after years of marriage. Instead of watching Grace reflect on her past to try to figure this out, we have to watch Nicole Kidman be shocked every time she learns new information. After a while, it becomes tedious. This show had the potential to explore something really fascinating but they shafted that element of the show in favor of a poorly thought out murder mystery.

     

    actually that’s how book was. It was her realizing how husband had slowly taken her away from everyone friends and family.

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    In the end this show achieved exactly what is was meant to do. An entertaining murder thriller that kept people guessing throughout the series and thus created more viewers each week and a zeitgeist moment for television.

    Some people are pissed because the murderer ended up being the obvious suspect and didn’t comply with some people’s theories about who could of done it. i.e. there was no twist at the end..

    Overall I thought the finale was great entertainment and was impressed by Hugh Grant the most especially the car scene..I expect Grant and Noma Dumezweni to definitely be nominated and most probably win during awards season. Sutherland and Kidman will probably be nominated, not sure if they have a chance at winning..

     

     

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    I’m just wondering why the lawyers never redirected/recrossed.

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    actually that’s how book was. It was her realizing how husband had slowly taken her away from everyone friends and family.

    Yep.

    I am not sure whether I was surprised or unsurprised they ended up with the same ending. They basically changed it completely from the book other than the ending and the depiction of Kidman and Grant’s characters (I didn’t know Grant would be in this when I was reading it but I thought of him as Jonathan the entire way through).

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    The writing continued to be implausible, but the actors sold me on EVERYTHING! Brier and the cast created a well-crafted thriller despite its many flaws. I ultimately bought into the dreamlike quality, from the theme song to the sometimes unrealistic dialogue and disoriented scenes with Nicole and her eyeballs.

    Grant owned this episode; he could switch from calm and calculated to menacing and evil easily. He particularly excelled in the courtroom scenes with Kidman and those towards the end with Jupe. I fully expect Kidman, Grant, Sutherland, Jupe, and Dumezweni to be nominated. The latter, in particular, was a genuine surprise for me. I loved the weight of her performance, even if she sometimes had to sell the most implausible scenes. Ramirez and Rabe were completely wasted and that was disappointing.

    I also appreciated the miniseries being kept to a tight six episodes; instead of it being dragged out for ten episodes, like some other shows.

    The Undoing: B+
    MVP: Grant

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    Occam’s razor: HBO never gave the finale to the press in advance because it was bad.

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