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    Finally, we get news on the bonus features of the season 1 DVD…

    2 audio commentaries w/showrunner Michael Schur, exec producer Drew Goddard and actresses Jameela Jamil and D’Arcy Carden;
    Table Read;
    Gag Reel;
    Visual Effects Look-See

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    Episode 2.1 and 2.2: Everything is Great! (season premiere)

    Their memories erased by evil architect Michael, Eleanor, Chidi, Tahani and Jason again settle into the Bad…um, Good Place, unaware of what previously transpired. Except that Eleanor discovers the one clue she left for herself and attempts to piece things together.

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    http://www.salon.com/2017/09/18/fall-tv-is-in-the-bad-place-so-lets-go-to-the-good-place/

    by Melanie McFarland, Salon Magazine

    Based on my foggy recollection, the last time it was this bad was 2003.

    That was the fall broadcast television gifted us with “Tarzan,” “The Mullets,” the Norm Macdonald vehicle known as “A Minute with Stan Hooper” and “Whoopi,” to name a few. Bless you if you don’t remember these shows, because some of us can never, ever forget they existed. Point being, it was bad y’all. Truly, madly, deeply terrible.

    Regrettably this fall’s new slate is worse. Now, you may doubt that. I get it — I mean, “The Mullets,” right? What could be worse than that? Mediocrity. You see, as terrible as many of the offerings in the 2003-2004 season were, it was also the year that yielded “Arrested Development.” “One Tree Hill” and “The O.C.” debuted that fall, along with other decent dramas that in retrospect we should have appreciated more than we did, such as “Karen Sisco” and “Wonderfalls,” which debuted in midseason.

    What we have now is a whole lot of valley with nary an incline in sight. There are a number of reasons this is the case, but some are obvious: Broadcast TV is currently operating in a narrow-cast world, relying on an increasingly outdated model still heavily dependent on raking in large audiences to meet advertiser expectations. That means series that aim for the middle and offend as few as possible get the green light, which can be a creativity killer.

    During a year with hundreds of new options available to viewers, a show needs to make some noise if it’s going to survive. None of the new series do, at least in the initial episodes made available to critics. A few of last year’s options did, though you may have noticed what with the Hellmouth slowly yawning open.

    But that was a year ago, and we’ve gotten used to life on the end of fiery oblivion. Hence, lacking better new options, now’s a great time to go reconsider a couple of last year’s series embarking upon their second seasons, starting with NBC’s “The Good Place,” kicking off its second season Wednesday at 10 p.m. with an hour-long episode.

    You may have tuned in to the comedy’s very first episodes and perhaps found its comedy and conceit to be charming and little else. That’s reasonable. In many ways “The Good Place” fulfills the obligations of a broadcast comedy — not exactly shocking, given creator Mike Schur co-created “Parks and Recreation” and was a producer on “The Office.” But with “The Good Place,” Schur takes the concept of inoffensiveness to absurd places. Its vision of a flawless afterlife is populated with endless frozen yogurt shops, where soul mates matched by some type of spiritual algorithm and denizens are physically barred from uttering vulgarities.

    Even its foul-mouthed main character Eleanor Shellstrop (Kristen Bell) can’t drop all the f-bombs she typically carpets her conversation with. In this version of the afterlife, as designed by its benevolent architect Michael (Ted Danson) nothing can be forked up. And to Eleanor, that’s a pile of bullshirt. She knows she is definitely a bad person who doesn’t belong there, especially in comparison to her soulmate Chidi (William Jackson Harper), a philosophy scholar, and Tahani (Jameela Jamil), a philanthropist. Soon enough she finds another anomaly in Jianyu (Manny Jacinto), who supposedly is a Buddhist monk but it actually a hoodlum from Florida.

    Now, you may have tuned in to “The Good Place” last year and thought to yourself, “Well, that’s adorable” before turning away. And I get that, what with that sphincter to the Upside Down puckering in the background. However, one distinction that raises “The Good Place” above the other network din is the way that it ended its first season which essentially transformed the show.

    Here is where we’ll pause for the sake of people who haven’t seen “The Good Place,” but might be curious about it — which is a fine instinct — but might be worried that it’s too late to catch up on it before Wednesday night’s debut. It’s not! You can easily watch the first two episodes of season 1, and its final pair, episode 11 and 12, and be up to speed for Wednesday’s season premiere.

    So stop reading and head over to Hulu or NBC.com, where the first season is available to stream for two more days. After that you’ll have to pay for it. And now, if you insist on continuing to read, you will be spoiled.

    Got it? Do you understand that there are spoilers ahead?

    Excellent.

    See, the delicious evil of “The Good Place,” the hidden detail that makes it such a gem worth picking up in season two, is that the entire premise is a lie. Michael’s not an angelic architect, but a soulless demon who devised this bland paradise as a way of torturing Eleanor and her companions for all eternity. The first season finale paved the way for a reboot that takes several episodes to settle in this new season but basically remakes the series into a tongue-in-cheek indictment of the office politics and the ruthlessness of middle management. Viewers familiar with a hellish workplace may find incredible comfort in this new season that allows Danson to turn on his rakish appeal a little more, augmenting his already considerable chemistry with Bell.

    Some series take time to a larger audience, and perhaps this current stew of meh dominating the fall menu will help sophomore successes like “The Good Place” taste all the sweeter. God, I hope that’s true, because in a season as disappointing as this one, we could really use something to believe in.

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    TV Guide: The Good Place Reboots in Season 2 – and Remains Forkin’ Great:

    http://www.tvguide.com/news/the-good-place-season-2-review/?ftag=twtrsoshares

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    Yahoo TV’s review of season 2:

    “In Wednesday night’s special one-hour season premiere (it moves to its regular Thursday time period on Sept. 28), we see the result of Eleanor’s discovery: She’s making Michael’s life hell. He’s still obliged to keep wiping the quartet’s memories and rebooting his Good Place to try to devise a plan in which the foursome is tortured unto eternity, but, dang it, Eleanor keeps catching on to what he’s doing. The premiere is huge fun, because it’s a clever variation on Groundhog Day — we get to see a slew of First Day in The Good Place scenarios, each with a different premise, each packed with solid jokes. What Schur and his writers have created is a self-contained universe in which we think we know the parameters; we get to know not just Michael and the quartet but also numerous supporting players — and everyone keeps changing, evolving or devolving at any given moment. When Michael comes up with yet another new scenario, he’s echoing what Schur and his staff must have done in the writers room while making the show: spit-balling endless alternatives.

    “Have I made Good Place sound complicated? It’s not really, and the premiere has an excellent summary of last season to catch you up if you haven’t watched previously. The Good Place is very well written, full of good jokes about bees and clowns and clam chowder. But it’s got another layer: it’s also about power dynamics and morality systems — how they shift and mutate depending on how people interact. Like Schur’s Parks and Recreation, The Good Place is, fundamentally, a sweet-tempered, optimistic show that says everyone is trying to be a better person — doing his or her best (or trying to) all the time. Bell and Danson are giving two of the best performances in primetime, and the rest of the cast isn’t far behind them. After you watch ventriloquist Darci Lynne Farmer win America’s Got Talent tonight (fingers crossed!), check out The Good Place — it needs your good wishes.”

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    Hidden for almost a year, now a video has popped up courtesy of K-Bell of the moment the rest of the cast found out about TV’s best season/series finale twist since the Newhart series-ender.

    http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/20/the-good-place-bad-place-video-kristen-bell/

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    “Anything is possible…but winter IS coming.”

    ‘The Good Place’ Creator, Stars Tease Season 2: http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/19/the-good-place-creator-stars-season-2-preview/

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    They showed Veep & every other Emmy comedy series contender wannabe how to put on a great premiere. This is a….it SHOULD be a contender for Golden Globes and SAG Comedy Ensemble. Every one of the cast got to shine, and none wasted that chance.

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    The season two premiere last night was excellent. I’m hoping this show is on a lot more people’s radars this season.

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    That premiere was more laugh out loud funny than most of season 1. I just hope they all regain their memories of the first season at some point

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    Ratings are in: 5.8m viewers, 1.4 rating in the demo (up 50 and 27% from its late January season finale). And welcome to those who braved ostracization from most of the forum and posted about last night’s opener.

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    This may be Danson’s best work yet. Really hope he gets some awards recognition this year

    Give Paul Thomas Anderson an Oscar.

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    And welcome to those who braved ostracization from most of the forum and posted about last night’s opener.

    Nobody is going after you for liking the show. There are many people on the forums (myself included) who say they like the show and don’t get shit for it (We even nominated Ted Danson for Comedy Actor in the Gold Derby TV Awards). People are criticizing you for personally going after every single woman in the Comedy Actress lineup and for acting delusional and saying that The Good Place was going to sweep.

    Give Paul Thomas Anderson an Oscar.

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    I love this show. I haven’t watched the premiere yet. But I will not be visiting this forum because it is just spam.

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