March 26, 2019 at 10:27 am #1202830143
Zoe’s selfishness stems from her constant need to have everything on her terms. In the beginning, she wouldn’t move in with Kevin b/c she was so protective of her space, and repeatedly told him that once things became too intense or involved, she’s gone. I think the writing gave her more dimension post-Vietnam trip and the episode with Beth’s mother, but the kids dilemma brought it all back to the surface again. Another stipulation, another obstacle, and no real regard for Kevin’s wants. He says he chooses Zoe over kids, but I don’t believe that. You don’t have a father like Jack and then not want a son of your own. I’m also rooting for #TeamSophie. She’s Kevin’s soulmate, not Zoe. Zoe can fly a damn kite for all I care.March 26, 2019 at 11:59 am #1202830227
I’m so ready for Sterling K. Brown’s tape… and Susan Kelechi Watson’s performance seems to be great as well judging from the preview/ promo.
I’m also getting tired of Zoe’s demands. What about what Kevin wants? Because he clearly wants a family of his own. He does see himself having children, this is more clear in episode 2 when Kate says she’s the only one in her family who is going to carry on a piece of Jack, and Kevin asks, “what about me?” which meant he obviously wanted children of his own. This relationship is turning out to mirror Randal and Beth’s. It’s very unbalanced. One partner wants what she wants and the other partner just has to agree to everything without taking into consideration what he wants. This will both blow up in their faces, especially with Kate having given birth to her baby boy. Kevin will obviously envy both of his siblings and may grow resentment towards Zoe.March 26, 2019 at 8:14 pm #1202830637
Devastating! Yes, it’s the best Sterling K. Brown has been all season long and his clear tape, but Susan Kelechi Watson! She proved that she’s a leading actress tonight who can stand toe-to-toe with anyone in the cast. That vows writing scene in the bathroom was just perfection! I think I know where the season finale is going, but they’re talking about a top-secret cliffhanger that the actors aren’t even aware of until it airs, so who knows?March 27, 2019 at 7:38 am #1202831036
That was too much Randall and Beth for my liking but a good episode. My grade: B+March 27, 2019 at 12:10 pm #1202831343
Wonderful episode. The wedding vows scenes were my favorite, so good they made me a little teary lol. They didn’t really give us a way forward for Randall and Beth since it was 95% flashbacks but i’m hoping they don’t ruin this wonderful couple that we all love. Niles Fitch was great as usual. He’s always been the best actor among all the kid versions of the grown-ups. Sterling K. Brown and Susan Kelechi Watson delivered just as I thought they would.March 27, 2019 at 1:33 pm #1202831404
Susan Kelechi Watson is really proving her worth with a storyline that is really letting her shine. Not even sure if it is her stellar performance or the writing, but I’m fully #TeamBeth on this one. I was so glad to see Rachel Hilson again and the story was left open enough that we will get more flashbacks of the beginning of Randall and Beth’s relationship in college. I thought the flashbacks did a good job to highlight the flaws in Randall that have been defining his storyline this season. The more I think about it, these seeds have been planted before but it is finally coming to the forefront. I would kind of support the show splitting the couple at this point. At this point, there’s already speculation about Randall/Beth and Kate/Toby being separated in the future based upon what they’ve showed us, it would be nice if at least one of those wasn’t a misdirect for the sake of drama and getting fans nervous. Watson is in the upper tier of actors deserving of awards recognition this season, and I just don’t think it’s gonna happen for her right now, but she’s really proving her worth right now and it is really keeping me invested in a storyline that would be much weaker if it were only being unfolded through Randall’s perspective.March 27, 2019 at 6:11 pm #1202831660
Randall is super manipulative. Beth hit where it hurts too, but Randall really does not take push back well at all. This was one of the best written episodes and cleverly tied in past threads and episodes. Bravo to the writer of this one and to the writers who set it up. Paralleling Randall to Jack in that flashback was brilliant.
I still disagree with the previous two posters rundown on Zoe. It reads too much like a ship you don’t like because you ship Kevin with Sophie. Zoe is who she is and is fighting against her self-protective shell. She’s working a lot out of her own comfort zone to take the risk with being with Kevin. You’re mistaking Zoe’s issues with selfishness when everything you raised, Zoe fought against. Sorry, but I don’t see what was so great about Sophie storywise. I mean she’s white like him, but my God her storylines with Kevin were boring AF. I was so glad when they broke up. You could tell the writers having trouble making Sophie interesting. She might be a good person in real life, but she is never going to be interesting enough for this show and for Kevin especially. Zoe at least provides something interesting and someone who isn’t just going to bend to Kevin just because. Kevin tends to get what he wants too easily, and Zoe is giving him some challenges and people are painting it like Zoe is getting whatever she wanted. In fact, the opposite is true. Zoe is afraid of commitment. Kevin wants commitment. Boom. He gets it. Zoe thinks they’re moving too fast and has issues with intimacy and sharing space. Kevin wants her to move in. Boom. She moves in. Zoe still has issues with after moving in and Kevin goes on a rant about not fully moving in. Boom. Zoe fully moves in. Zoe basically turned from a commitment phobe with a history of running away from relationships and breaking hearts to a committed housewife who is sticking by an alcoholic who just relapsed and lied to her about what he’s been doing in L.A. and who drank vodka at the hospital while waiting for his sister to give birth in a dangerous pregnancy, put up with the ridiculous, overwrought Pearson family drama in one of the worst written and directed episodes of primetime television, and made a declaration to Beth that she’s sticking by him and supporting him. I think you guys got this in reverse.
I also disagree with the idea that people can’t have amazing parents and decide they don’t want children. I think that’s an issue you’re having. Some people still can’t understand that there are perfectly normal people who don’t want children. I’m not convinced Kevin is one of those just because it’s THIS show and you know it’s going to come up again. I mean would you guys have felt Kevin was selfish if he had strong-armed Zoe into having children if she said she didn’t want any if it came with some overdone monologue about the beauty of parenthood and having children and how there’s life to be lived among the messiness of it? Probably not because you want Kevin to have kids.March 27, 2019 at 6:42 pm #1202831695
I followed your argument just fine. Just thought it was wrong. Save your damn condescension.March 28, 2019 at 11:58 am #1202832636
I didn’t say anything about you not following an argument. I’m responding to your post regarding a character with my disagreement of your assessment.April 2, 2019 at 10:46 am #1202837564
Episode Title: “Her”
Synopsis: Rebecca helps Kate and Toby care for baby Jack; Zoe and Kevin look after Tess and Annie; Randall and Beth consider how to move forward; Season Finale.
Discuss.April 2, 2019 at 11:01 am #1202837592
Ahhh man, why does it have to end!?April 3, 2019 at 6:36 am #1202838380
This season was a mess. Entirely way too many storylines developed and dropped out of thin air. Milo Ventimiglia basically disappeared after the Vietnam story wrapped (though I personally think there is still plenty of ground to cover there). Mandy Moore was great this season, but did she even really have an arc? Kevin relapsed for two episode’s worth of conflict before the “I want kids” storyline was shoehorned in at the end to have Zoe out of the picture before the end of the season. Tess’ coming out was introduced in one episode and not mentioned again until the finale. Kate was going back to school in a November episode and then she just graduates by March, with a pregnancy in between that really did not get into the nitty gritty of high-risk pregnancies like it honestly should have. Everything about Randall’s arc defied logic and the pretty little bow the finale puts on it is infuriating.
The positives? Susan Kelechi Watson, for starters. Beth was finally given some real stories this season and although they may have had their issues, it gave her a chance to shine. Honestly, all of the performances saved this season. Similarly, while Ventimiglia and Moore did not really have full season arcs from start to finish, their performances remained top tier. As I started suspecting last season, Kevin is maybe the most interesting Pearson and Justin Hartley was easily the best Big 3 adult performer of the season. Chrissy Metz may have had the most clear story arc of the season (even though I already pointed out some issues) and that helped me appreciate her performance a little more. Sterling K. Brown is still good, but I abhorred Randall’s storyline for most of the season, which may have affected my feelings toward his performance. Sorry if you think that’s me having difficulty separating the art from the artist or whatever, but it’s how I feel. The “standalone” episodes of the season were often the best.
Personally, I think this season kept the five leads (six if you wanna include Watson at this point) on equal footing and I may consider them all supporting, after having Ventimiglia and Moore in lead last year. There were some good-to-great guest turns this year, particularly Michael Angarano, Griffin Dunne, Phylicia Rashad, Rachel Hilson and Carl Lumbly. The show deserves a decline in nominations, but due to lack of competition this year, who knows what’ll happen. If this is truly the halfway point of the show’s run, they need to tighten it up for season 4-6 and tell stories from start to finish and play with the strengths of their very, very good ensemble.April 3, 2019 at 9:20 am #1202838569
Interesting finale. The flash-forwards left me with tons of questions. They were all visiting dying Rebecca like we figured. Randall and Beth are still together. Yay! But where is Miguel? Nicky is still living. Kevin’s a dad (wonderful). Kate? Tess? Deja? Jack survived! Happy to see that and hope he’s thriving. Good riddance, Zoe! The rest of the episode had mostly good points. I rarely care about the early years of the Big Three, so Rebecca’s accident carried little weight or stakes to it. The “engine” metaphor was quite heavy-handed, but what can you do there? No real cliffhanger, which I appreciated. I think the season overall was a strong one. The Vietnam arc was riveting and should make Milo Ventimiglia the Emmy frontrunner in Lead Actor in a Drama Series. Justin Hartley continued to prove his individual and ensemble worth on the series. Not sure I always bought into Randall’s arc. Nothing against Sterling K. Brown, but more the writing failed him in stretches in the politics arc. Kate’s pregnancy arc worked for the most part, and Chrissy Metz had some of her series-best moments within it. Susan Kelechi Watson had a stunning season as Beth richly developed as a leading (yes, leading) character here. The far-fetched ballet past was a lot to accept at first (Beth could have been a future Misty Copeland? Sure, Jan.). Phylicia Rashad better win that elusive fucking Emmy already as Beth’s mother. “Our Little Island Girl” should be the sole writing/directing submission from the season as well. The series is at a firm halfway point now, so I can’t wait for more adventures in the lives of the Pearsons. Onto season 4!April 3, 2019 at 11:22 am #1202838717
An incredible finale to a brilliant season! I say they deserve an uptick in nominations this year! This ensemble truly is the best on television. I’m hoping and praying for Justin Hartley to finally get that Emmy nomination. Milo Ventimiglia was the standout this season, he should win the Emmy for Lead Actor in a Drama Series and break into SAG next year. Mandy Moore was great as always but she had far more stronger material last season. Sterling K. Brown continues to impress. Chrissy Metz had her strongest season to date, I hope she returns to Supporting Actress this year. Susan Kelechi Watson was breathtaking this season, she should also get that Emmy nom. Chris Sullivan was also great, he had quite an emotional season as compared to the first two. Carl Lumbly, Michael Angarano, Phylicia Rashad, Griffin Dunne, Goran Višnjić, Rachel Hilson and Yetide Badaki were amazing guest stars as well.
The main cast and their best tapes:
Sterling K. Brown – R and B (3×17)
Milo Ventimiglia – Sometimes (3×07)
Mandy Moore – The Graduates (3×14)
Chrissy Metz – Katie Girls (3×03)
Justin Hartley – The Waiting Room (3×15)
Susan Kelechi Watson – R and B (3×17)
Chris Sullivan – Don’t Take My Sunshine Away (3×16)
The show continues to impress. They delivered their best episode yet in “Songbird Road: Part One” which should get a nomination for Editing and Directing. I agree that “Our Little Island Girl” is also flawless and should get a Writing nomination. Let’s hope they submit only those two episodes or one of them for Writing/ Directing. I also hope the show gets that Casting nomination again since it missed out last year.
This is the middle of the entire series and I can’t wait for September to see what season 4 has in store for us!
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