PLEASE HELP (My Saturn Awards TV Ballot) tough categories to call!

[TeridaxParticipant Joined: Dec 12th, 2014 Topics: 72 Posts: 10603 View Predictions]

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As a Saturn Awards voter, I am looking to YOU for help on some of these tight races, my fellow Derbyites! Here are the categories I need help with (for now) and the nominees I have narrowed it down to:

Best New Media Television Series

Marvel’s Luke Cage

A Series of Unfortunate Events

Stranger Things

Best Actress on Television

Lena Headey “Game of Thrones”

Melissa Benoist “Supergirl”

Best Supporting Actor on Television

Jeffrey Wright “Westworld”

Ed Harris “Westworld”

Kit Harington “Game of Thrones”

Best Supporting Actress on Television

Evan Rachel Wood “Westworld”

Thandie Newton “Westworld”

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[TeridaxParticipant Joined: Dec 12th, 2014 Topics: 72 Posts: 10603 View Predictions]

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So, your feedback with my voting ballot would be very much appreciated! 🙂

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[Riley (the normal one, not the one who won the predictions contest)Participant Joined: Oct 11th, 2010 Topics: 108 Posts: 13500 View Predictions]

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Teridax wrote:

Thandie Newton “Westworld”

How is this a choice?

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[TeridaxParticipant Joined: Dec 12th, 2014 Topics: 72 Posts: 10603 View Predictions]

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Riley (the normal one, not the one who won the predictions contest) wrote:

Teridax wrote:

Thandie Newton “Westworld”

How is this a choice?

Because Evan Rachel Wood was sssoooooo AMAZING as Dolores Abernathy too!!! The way she could instantly turn emotionless and robotic! Infinitely more impressive than Alicia Vikander’s work in Ex Machina. Both Maeve and Dolores had incredible arcs throughout the season.

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[Anonymous Joined: Jan 1st, 1970 Topics: 104 Posts: 5263 View Predictions]

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For new series I would go with Straner Things and Luke Cage right behind it. For actress I would go with Benoist not because she is better than Headey but she is so underrated in that role. It’s such a hard role to pull of without being so cheeses and razzie worthy and she does it ver naturally. Ed Harris does nothing in WW so I would go with Wright. Harrington as a close second. And easily easily easily Newton over Woods

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[TeridaxParticipant Joined: Dec 12th, 2014 Topics: 72 Posts: 10603 View Predictions]

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For new series I would go with Straner Things and Luke Cage right behind it. For actress I would go with Benoist not because she is better than Headey but she is so underrated in that role. It’s such a hard role to pull of without being so cheeses and razzie worthy and she does it ver naturally. Ed Harris does nothing in WW so I would go with Wright. Harrington as a close second. And easily easily easily Newton over Woods

Couple questions:

1. Why so EASILY Newton over Wood?

2. I agree that Benoist is soooo underrated… but Lena Headey, like Harington, has never won at the Saturn Awards before, and is so much more overdue… I’m torn, do I choose “overdue” Headey or “underrated” Beniost?

3. I loved Jeffrey Wright in Westworld, but Kit Harington was the best he’s ever been this season, not only with BotB, but when he got brought back to life, and revealed there had been nothing. You can sense how traumatized he is the rest of season, at a very deep, subtle level. But Dustin Hoffman once said the only true test as to who the best actor was would be to have every actor play Hamlet. That being said, I have a strong gut feeling that Harington’s Hamlet would not be as layered as powerful as Wright’s Hamlet. I’m so. freaking. torn. 🙁

4. Why not A Series of Unfortunate Events? I haven’t seen it yet, but how are the other 2 superior in your opinion?

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[Anonymous Joined: Jan 1st, 1970 Topics: 104 Posts: 5263 View Predictions]

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Teridax wrote:

Hunterbergfeld wrote:

For new series I would go with Straner Things and Luke Cage right behind it. For actress I would go with Benoist not because she is better than Headey but she is so underrated in that role. It’s such a hard role to pull of without being so cheeses and razzie worthy and she does it ver naturally. Ed Harris does nothing in WW so I would go with Wright. Harrington as a close second. And easily easily easily Newton over Woods

Couple questions:

1. Why so EASILY Newton over Wood?

2. I agree that Benoist is soooo underrated… but Lena Headey, like Harington, has never won at the Saturn Awards before, and is so much more overdue… I’m torn, do I choose “overdue” Headey or “underrated” Beniost?

3. I loved Jeffrey Wright in Westworld, but Kit Harington was the best he’s ever been this season, not only with BotB, but when he got brought back to life, and revealed there had been nothing. You can sense how traumatized he is the rest of season, at a very deep, subtle level. But Dustin Hoffman once said the only true test as to who the best actor was would be to have every actor play Hamlet. That being said, I have a strong gut feeling that Harington’s Hamlet would not be as layered as powerful as Wright’s Hamlet. I’m so. freaking. torn. ????

4. Why not A Series of Unfortunate Events? I haven’t seen it yet, but how are the other 2 superior in your opinion?

1) Woods is very good with her range but Newton has such a powerful presence that nobody else could really pull off.
2) sure Heady is overdue, but she will definitely win in the next two years. She has time. Benoist probobly won’t win.

3) Harrington had more of a reaction but Wright gave such a layered performance. I wouldn’t vote for either though. Jimmi Simpson is the criminally overrated actor on that show and the most deserving guy on it. It’s a shame that he will be snubbed everywhere.

4) Unfortunate Events was good, but not the best. It was very uneven. Repetitive. What worked was amazing but it was very flawed. Stranger Things was a phenomenon. It was well paced and exciting throughout. Mysterious and intriguing with great acting. Luke Cage had an amazing acting ensemble. Criminally underrated. The writing was solid and the first half was great. Once a certain actor leaves the show it shifts and gets much more comic book-y in a bad way. And I love comic books. However, the first half has great acting, great writing, and is very topical. I would probably vote for Stranger Things over it because it is more consistent, but I would consider voting for Luke Cage since it is the underdog and deserves more recognition.

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[jacob121Participant Joined: Mar 2nd, 2011 Topics: 30 Posts: 1465 View Predictions]

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Teridax wrote:

As a Saturn Awards voter, I am looking to YOU for help on some of these tight races, my fellow Derbyites! Here are the categories I need help with (for now) and the nominees I have narrowed it down to:

Best New Media Television Series

Marvel’s Luke Cage

A Series of Unfortunate Events

Stranger Things

Best Actress on Television

Lena Headey “Game of Thrones”

Melissa Benoist “Supergirl”

Best Supporting Actor on Television

Jeffrey Wright “Westworld”

Ed Harris “Westworld”

Kit Harington “Game of Thrones”

Best Supporting Actress on Television

Evan Rachel Wood “Westworld”

Thandie Newton “Westworld”

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[PulpParticipant Joined: Feb 13th, 2017 Topics: 23 Posts: 7769 View Predictions]

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Teridax wrote:

As a Saturn Awards voter, I am looking to YOU for help on some of these tight races, my fellow Derbyites! Here are the categories I need help with (for now) and the nominees I have narrowed it down to:

Best New Media Television Series

Marvel’s Luke Cage

A Series of Unfortunate Events

Stranger Things

Best Actress on Television

Lena Headey “Game of Thrones”

Melissa Benoist “Supergirl”

Best Supporting Actor on Television

Jeffrey Wright “Westworld”

Ed Harris “Westworld”

Kit Harington “Game of Thrones”

Best Supporting Actress on Television

Evan Rachel Wood “Westworld”

Thandie Newton “Westworld”

Please go against the overrated Newton and give it to Wood, she was so mesmerizing. I loved Newton too but she overacted a lot and didn’t bring the same complexity to the character that Wood did. Watching Wood is what kept me coming back each week to see what else she would bring to her performance. Newton just switched between badass and crying mother.

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[MaccaParticipant Joined: Dec 22nd, 2015 Topics: 7 Posts: 4821 View Predictions]

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Best New Media Television Series

Stranger Things – it’s going to win anyway

Best Actress on Television

Lena Headey “Game of Thrones” – she needs all the help/encouragement she can get. She has lost three Emmys in a row.

Best Supporting Actor on Television

Kit Harington “Game of Thrones” – The other two performances were pretty placid in comparison

Best Supporting Actress on Television

Thandie Newton “Westworld” – she stole the show

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[Guest2014Participant Joined: Nov 15th, 2011 Topics: 180 Posts: 3377 View Predictions]

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Teridax, let’s see what we got here:

Teridax wrote:

Best New Media Television Series
Marvel’s Luke Cage
A Series of Unfortunate Events
Stranger Things

Best Actress on Television
Lena Headey “Game of Thrones”
Melissa Benoist “Supergirl”

Best Supporting Actor on Television
Jeffrey Wright “Westworld”
Ed Harris “Westworld”
Kit Harington “Game of Thrones”

Best Supporting Actress on Television
Evan Rachel Wood “Westworld”
Thandie Newton “Westworld”

MY ballot:

Best Science Fiction Series: The Expanse
Best Fantasy Series: The Good Place
Best Horror Series: The Walking Dead
Best Action/Thriller Series: Designated Survivor
Best Superhero Adaptation Series: Supergirl
Best Presentation on Television: Mars
Best New Media Television Series: The Man in the High Castle
Best Actor: Freddie Highmore (Bates Motel)
Best Actress: Vera Farmiga (Bates Motel)
Best Supporting Actor: Jeffrey Wright (Westworld)
Best Supporting Actress: Kathy Bates (AHS: Roanoke)
Best Younger Actor: Millie Bobby Brown (Stranger Things)
Best Guest Performance: Jeffrey Dean Morgan (The Walking Dead)
Best Animated Series/Film: Star Wars: Rebels

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[TeridaxParticipant Joined: Dec 12th, 2014 Topics: 72 Posts: 10603 View Predictions]

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Guest2014 wrote:

Teridax, let’s see what we got here:

Teridax wrote:

Best New Media Television Series
Marvel’s Luke Cage
A Series of Unfortunate Events
Stranger Things

Best Actress on Television
Lena Headey “Game of Thrones”
Melissa Benoist “Supergirl”

Best Supporting Actor on Television
Jeffrey Wright “Westworld”
Ed Harris “Westworld”
Kit Harington “Game of Thrones”

Best Supporting Actress on Television
Evan Rachel Wood “Westworld”
Thandie Newton “Westworld”

MY ballot:

Best Science Fiction Series: The Expanse
Best Fantasy Series: The Good Place
Best Horror Series: The Walking Dead
Best Action/Thriller Series: Designated Survivor
Best Superhero Adaptation Series: Supergirl
Best Presentation on Television: Mars
Best New Media Television Series: The Man in the High Castle
Best Actor: Freddie Highmore (Bates Motel)
Best Actress: Vera Farmiga (Bates Motel)
Best Supporting Actor: Jeffrey Wright (Westworld)
Best Supporting Actress: Kathy Bates (AHS: Roanoke)
Best Younger Actor: Millie Bobby Brown (Stranger Things)
Best Guest Performance: Jeffrey Dean Morgan (The Walking Dead)
Best Animated Series/Film: Star Wars: Rebels

I’m also voting for Millie Bobby Brown and Designated Survivor! 😀

Also, who are you voting for on the film side, if don’t mind my curiosity?

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[Guest2014Participant Joined: Nov 15th, 2011 Topics: 180 Posts: 3377 View Predictions]

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Film’s a bit tougher, so here goes:

Best Comic-to-Motion Picture: (tie) BvS: Dawn of Justice (the extended edition)/Deadpool
Best Science Fiction Film: (tie) Passengers/Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Best Fantasy Release: none
Best Horror Release: The Conjuring 2
Best Action/Adventure Release: Hidden Figures
Best Thriller Release: 10 Cloverfield Lane

Best Actor: Ryan Reynolds (Deadpool)
Best Actress: (tie) Amy Adams (Arrival)/Jennifer Lawrence (Passengers)
Best Supporting Actor: Diego Luna (Rogue One: A Star Wars Story)
Best Supporting Actress: Margot Robbie (Suicide Squad)
Best Performance by a Younger Actor: Lewis MacDougall (A Monster Calls)

Best Direction: Gareth Edwards (Rogue One: A Star Wars Story)
Best Screenplay: Deadpool
Best Editing: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Best Production Design: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story/Passengers
Best Film Music: Thomas Newman (Passengers)
Best Costume Designer: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Best Make-Up: Suicide Squad
Best Visual Effects: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Best Independent Film Release: none
Best International Film Release: Shin Godzilla
Best Animated Film Release: Trolls (the Secret Life of Pets should be here)

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[TeridaxParticipant Joined: Dec 12th, 2014 Topics: 72 Posts: 10603 View Predictions]

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Guest2014 wrote:

Film’s a bit tougher, so here goes:

Best Comic-to-Motion Picture: (tie) BvS: Dawn of Justice (the extended edition)/Deadpool
Best Science Fiction Film: (tie) Passengers/Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Best Fantasy Release: none
Best Horror Release: The Conjuring 2
Best Action/Adventure Release: Hidden Figures
Best Thriller Release: 10 Cloverfield Lane

Best Actor: Ryan Reynolds (Deadpool)
Best Actress: (tie) Amy Adams (Arrival)/Jennifer Lawrence (Passengers)
Best Supporting Actor: Diego Luna (Rogue One: A Star Wars Story)
Best Supporting Actress: Margot Robbie (Suicide Squad)
Best Performance by a Younger Actor: Lewis MacDougall (A Monster Calls)

Best Direction: Gareth Edwards (Rogue One: A Star Wars Story)
Best Screenplay: Deadpool
Best Editing: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Best Production Design: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story/Passengers
Best Film Music: Thomas Newman (Passengers)
Best Costume Designer: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Best Make-Up: Suicide Squad
Best Visual Effects: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Best Independent Film Release: none
Best International Film Release: Shin Godzilla
Best Animated Film Release: Trolls (the Secret Life of Pets should be here)

I LOVE your out-of-the-box choices! I’m also voting for Margot Robbie, Suicide Squad for Makeup, and Hidden Figures! I’m seeing Passengers either tomorrow or the day after that. Tell you what, if I vote for Rogue One for Best Science Fiction Film, will you join me in doing so? 2 votes are stronger than 1! Also, the extended edition of BvS isn’t what’s on the ballot, and so that is NOT what you are voting for. Just FYI. 😉

Why no love for Captain America: Civil War? Also, why did you pick 10 Cloverfield Lane for Best Thriller yet not vote for EITHER Mary Elizabeth Winstead or the Oscar-snubbed John Goodman. Those 2 have my votes locked down, but I’m still debating between 10 Cloverfield, Split, and Hell or High Water for Best Thriller. Why 10 Cloverfield over those other 2?

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[Guest2014Participant Joined: Nov 15th, 2011 Topics: 180 Posts: 3377 View Predictions]

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Teridax wrote:

I LOVE your out-of-the-box choices! I’m also voting for Margot Robbie, Suicide Squad for Makeup, and Hidden Figures! I’m seeing Passengers either tomorrow or the day after that. Tell you what, if I vote for Rogue One for Best Science Fiction Film, will you join me in doing so? 2 votes are stronger than 1! Also, the extended edition of BvS isn’t what’s on the ballot, and so that is NOT what you are voting for. Just FYI.

Why no love for Captain America: Civil War? Also, why did you pick 10 Cloverfield Lane for Best Thriller yet not vote for EITHER Mary Elizabeth Winstead or the Oscar-snubbed John Goodman. Those 2 have my votes locked down, but I’m still debating between 10 Cloverfield, Split, and Hell or High Water for Best Thriller. Why 10 Cloverfield over those other 2?

I know the extended cut of BvS isn’t up, but if it were, it would win, IMO. Deadpool was better as 4-quadrant entertainment, and had a shoulda-been-nommed-for-an-Oscar performance by Reynolds. He was astoundingly great, breaking the 4th wall and was the primary reason why Deadpool was an epic financial success. Lawrence was Lawrence, which is to say, she slayed in Passengers. She’s the class of the Saturn field, IMO. And re: Passengers, damn the haters. Go in with a clear mind and you’ll be entertained beyond words. I think the Cloverfield brand was done right by this unofficial sequel.

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