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    wolfali
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    Do people want to know a fun fact? Both Ratched and Hollywood didn’t have Brad Falchuk on as a writer.

    Btw the only Emmy nominated Ryan Murphy show with Ian Brennan as a writer is Glee which tells a lot…

    But he wrote HolywoodScream Queens and The Politician as well.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    But he wrote Holywood, Scream Queens and The Politician as well.

    Glee is the only one that was nominated for Best Series Emmy. None of the ones you listed were.

    Murphy can get good writers because people do want to work with him. And there are so many fresh voices out there waiting to be heard. I am tired of Falchuk, Murphy, Brennan trio shuffling similar ideas across multiple shows. They all need to take a break and Murphy needs to stick to producing and directing.

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    Glee is the only one that was nominated for Best Series Emmy. None of the ones you listed were.

    Yeah I know of course.

    My point being was that Ian Brennan being a writer on Ratched won’t get it a Series Emmy nomination when he was literally writing on HollywoodScream Queens and The Politician which as you said didn’t get nominated for Series.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    Some of you forget that critics are over harsh to Ryan Murphy

    According to whom?

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    It’s hard to predict Ratched’s Emmy chances right now since we don’t have a good forecast on the show that are returning or premiering this spring. Right now, I can see Ratched getting some nods like Paulson, maybe a supporting or guest nod, and then craft categories. In terms of Golden Globes, Critic’s Choice, or SAG, the only nomination that I can see is for Paulson because they can still award the shows from Jan to May 2020. I don’t think it could sneak in to the series category unless Ratched becomes a huge audience hit.

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    I think what wolfali and others who are optimistic with this show’s awards chances is trying to say is that when you are an undeniable below-the-line contender that carries you, to an extent, to above-the-line categories as well. After Hollywood was screened we all expected only Jim Parsons to show up, and that was because his category was barren, but then Jeremy Pope and Holland Taylor were even nominated. The Politician was an expensive show and that’s why it’s also the most nominated Netflix comedy. You could even argue The Mandalorian owes its series nomination to below-the-line support.

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    Not sure about how it is in the US but I just logged into Netflix and the show is being promoted all over the home page (which Hollywood wasn’t when it premiered as I had to initially search for it to watch it).

    Just about to watch the first ep.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    Gonna start watching tonight or tomorrow night will uppdate as i watch.

    Update (No Spoilers):
    “Pilot”: Good not great. My grade: B
    “Ice Pick”: Better than the Pilot but still not wowed. My grade: B
    “Angel of Mercy”: Now we are talking! My grade: A
    “Angel of Mercy: Part Two”: Perfection but this also was my fav episode. My grade: A+
    “The Dance”: I didn’t like this episode at all. My grade: C+
    “Got No Strings”: This one was really good. My grade: A
    “The Bucket List”: Good not Great. My grade: B
    “Mildred and Edmund”: Perfection. My grade: A+

    In terms of Emmy possibilities…
    The Ones I am rooting for
    1. Sarah Paulson in Lead Actress
    2. Finn Wittrock in Supporting Actor
    3. Cynthia Nixon in Supporting Actress

    The Possibilities that Prob won’t happen:
    1. “Angel of Mercy: Part Two” for Directing and Writing
    2. “Mildred and Edmund” for Directing and Writing
    3. Jon Jon Briones in Supporting Actress

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    I’m now at episode 7. I am enjoying the show actually (although I’m a huge Ryan Murphy fan so it has something to do with that). Paulson is fantastic. She would be very deserving to get a nod. The other actors who I thought were great and deserve to get a nod are Nixon, Briones, Okonedo, and Davis.

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    Okay so my review of the first ep (I also watched five minutes of the next ep just to see if there was a title sequence).

    Before I start I should probably note that I am someone who liked The Politician and found Hollywood to be the worst choice of television to watch in a long time (although I did enjoy Mantello, LuPone, Taylor and Krusiesc’s performances).

    I find myself agreeing with both the rave and panned reviews of this show that has led to its 60% Rotten Tomatoes critics score. This is clearly Ryan Murphy’s most stylish (in terms of crafts) show yet and I’d say that this would be locked for nominations for one or two craft nominations here and there just like Perry Mason is regardless of however the competition may end up being. In fact it finds itself in a similar situation to Perry Mason. Both are titled after iconic fictional characters but the actors and the story seems to portray a wildly different interpretation of their protagonists from their original source material. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing but at least the pilot of Ratched (at least for me) is watchable and doesn’t try to take itself too seriously unlike Perry Boreson which is incredibly dull and tries to initially present itself quite seriously.

    The actors are excellent although apart from Briones and Paulson they don’t seem to have had much to do yet. Paulson is phenomenal as always although I am yet to decide whether I prefer this performance to her performance in Mrs. America although I don’t see this topping her OJ Simpson performance and Briones has the material and is quite good but isn’t necessarily the strongest out of the cast. Judy Davis and Rosanna Arquette are scene-stealing but again they don’t have much to do yet. Vincent D’Onforio, Finn Wittrock and Cynthia Nixon are great in the bits they’re in but they haven’t appeared in it much yet. The ensemble overall however is much better than Hollywood‘s so far. The only two questionable people so far are Corey Stoll and Alice Englert. I mean if Stoll ends up getting a nomination for this I’ll scream because this is nowhere near as deserving as his work in House of Cards was.

    Now for the weaker parts. It’s a very Ryan Murphy show (hardly a surprise considering it’s produced and directed by him but I’m sure people know what I mean). IMO this isn’t necessarily a bad thing but for some people it may be. It’s watchable (largely due to the actors) and whilst the first act was quite slow paced things do tend to pick up in pace later on in the episode however the writing is a bit all over the place. Because of how hard Murphy and co have tried to make this into a Hitchockean style noir type of a show it sometimes succeeds in being an entertaining show but then sometimes falls flat on its face. Like I said the actors are excellent but at times because of the style Murphy is going for in the direction and Romansky has gone in the writing it feels as if they are reading off an autocue (or at least in the first act of the pilot). This doesn’t really happen so much in the later half of the show but is a reoccurring problem in the first half.

    Also Sharon Stone doesn’t appear in this episode.

    P.S. Mac Quayle’s score is excellent (as his scores always are). As for whether this score will get nominated at the Emmys depends because I don’t see it getting nominated if all 5 of the incumbent nominees are returning.

    Pilot
    Grade : B
    MVP : Sarah Paulson

    At the moment I can see the show getting these nominations at the Emmys :

    – Cinematography
    – Guest Actor (DiTomasso)
    – Lead Actress (Paulson) (I think now that Killing Eve is definitely missing she’s probably getting nominated but then again it depends on if The Morning Show, The Handmaid’s Tale and The Gilded Age air)
    – Period Costumes
    – Period/Character Hairstyling
    – Period/Character Makeup
    – Production Design
    – Prosthetic Makeup
    – Main Title Design (it’s ineligible in Original Title Theme)

    What it has the potential to get nominated for (of what I’ve seen of it so far and not necessarily all of these will happen but some of them can depending on the next episodes) :

    – Casting
    – Lead Actor (Wittrock)
    – Supporting Actress (Davis)
    – Supporting Actress (Nixon)
    – Supporting Actor (Briones)
    – Guest Actor (D’Onforio)
    – Guest Actress (Arquette)
    – Picture Editing
    – Sound Mixing
    – Visual Effects

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    I doubt Di Tomasso will be remembered

    That’s a good point but the acting categories look so barren so I have hope because he’s incredibly deserving of a nomination.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    I have seen the first two episodes, and I definitely think some of the critics were excessively harsh towards this show. This is easily better than The Politician, Hollywood and even American Horror Story (Apocalypse, Cult, Hotel, 1984). Murphy’s initial projects with Netflix probably left no goodwill for the critics as this displays some of his trademarks and they might simply be off with seeing them again.

    (I also watched five minutes of the next ep just to see if there was a title sequence).

    I literally did the same thing!

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    I have seen the first two episodes, and I definitely think some of the critics were excessively harsh towards this show. This is easily better than The Politician, Hollywood and even American Horror Story (Apocalypse, Cult, Hotel, 1984).

    1984 is potentially the worst thing Murphy has done and yes I believe Hollywood is better but only slightly so. It felt like they weren’t even trying with that season and just made up what was going to happen on the day of. Not to mention visually it was the most boring season AHS has ever done as well.

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