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  • forwardswill
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    If anyone had told me before this show aired that one of Lange and Paltrow would be Emmy nom worthy and the other would be being acted off the screen by all of her scene partners I would have slotted the former into my predictions in a heartbeat. But now here I am: In disbelief at how good Paltrow is.

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    ginnala
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    If anyone had told me before this show aired that one of Lange and Paltrow would be Emmy nom worthy and the other would be being acted off the screen by all of her scene partners I would have slotted the former into my predictions in a heartbeat. But now here I am: In disbelief at how good Paltrow is.

    She is honestly really great in this.

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    Dennis El Mar
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    If anyone had told me before this show aired that one of Lange and Paltrow would be Emmy nom worthy and the other would be being acted off the screen by all of her scene partners I would have slotted the former into my predictions in a heartbeat. But now here I am: In disbelief at how good Paltrow is.

    I have to agree with what you said before, as weird as it sounds Paltrow is perfectly cast in this role and she handles what could be a hard role to nail incredibly well. She expresses all of her characters contradictions whilst making the character herself cohesive. I wouldn’t say she outacts Lange but Lange doesn’t get the same opportunities for complexity unfortunately

    FYC: Mary Kay Place in Diane

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    JDM
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    Dont watch it then lmao😂

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    Hilton Foster
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    It is really really bad.

    Honestly what’s wrong with Lange?

    She is doing the same old shit for the past 7 years. Again. Nothing new.

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    If Paltrow go lead at the awards she will have a chance, because Lange and Deutch have more chances than her at the supporting category

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    Bebe
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    No wonder Barbra Streisand dropped out the role.

    I actually remember when the show was announced and Streisand was to be cast. Was she really going to play the Dusty character? I can’t picture her in this role at all.

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    forwardswill
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    I actually remember when the show was announced and Streisand was to be cast. Was she really going to play the Dusty character? I can’t picture her in this role at all.

    I doubt she was going to play that character. Let’s not forget that when Streisand was attached the show was still a musical.

    If Paltrow go lead at the awards she will have a chance, because Lange and Deutch have more chances than her at the supporting category

    As good as Deutch is (and she’s better than Lange), the idea that she has a better chance than Paltrow is laughable

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    The more commercials I see of this, the more I’m convinced this is going to be the Heaven’s Gate of streaming TV. As in one ginormous dumpster fire.

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    I actually remember when the show was announced and Streisand was to be cast. Was she really going to play the Dusty character? I can’t picture her in this role at all.

    I have the script of the pilot since like 2 years ago when Streisand was still attached. I should read it to see if it was the same role because I doubt it too.

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    forwardswill
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    Now y’all reaching! Unfortunately Lange been doing the same thing over and over with Murphy yes! But let’s not act like she isn’t great doing so. The girl was good, really good, but Lange is another level.

    Lange is great (like the whole cast) but she’s pretty much the only person who manages to act more ridiculous than the show as a whole on occasion. She’s always hilarious though. Deutch, however, does an outstanding job of being simultaneously incredibly heightened and grounded which I regard as a more impressive feat.

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    This show is a bit of a mess, but there are things to really like about it and some things that I really didn’t like at all. The writing is all over the place and it really seems like most of this season wasn’t mapped out ahead of time, which is wild for an eight-episode season where the main story is wrapped up by the end of episode seven. The tone was all over the place and sometimes it really worked, but then it got too bonkers or too serious and it lost me. It is particularly, as has been pointed out before, “The Assassination…” episodes that really point to the weak points of this show. “The Voter” is maybe my favorite episode of the season because it struck exactly the right camp vibe that was publicized in the run-up to the show’s launch, but also incisive, enjoyable and funny when it came to illuminating the parody of real-world politics through this over-the-top high school presidential election. Other episodes did not strike the right mix. Then you get to episode eight, which is so strikingly different from the preceding season, but promises a much better show going forward. So even though I was mixed on the season as a whole, I’m really looking forward to season two, which is quite a feat.

    The one strength of the show was the performances, which were pretty good across the board. This is a great role for Ben Platt and, even though the writing failed him a few times, he really came alive and inhabited this wild character that is not necessarily likable, but can still be the central character of the series. Platt in the “Pilot” really reminded me of Rachel Brosnahan in the “Maisel” pilot, where it was a strong comedic performance that had massive range and really showcased its lead in such a dominating way. I agree with others on here that were really surprised by how much they liked Gwyneth Paltrow. Again, as with Platt, the writing let her down sometimes (she didn’t even really start making an impact until halfway through the season), but she really struck the balance of self-parody and maternal warmth that was needed to ground these characters. Zoey Deutch was a lot of fun in a role that was kind of all over the place. Lucy Boynton really surprised me with her work here and it is a shame that, in my opinion at least, they really shortchanged Astrid as a character since she is supposed to be Payton’s primary rival. David Corenswet gave a nice subtle performance that was needed to bring some levity to his character’s plot. The rest of the supporting cast was fine, each kind of having their moments, but I just need to say that I don’t really know what the fuck Jessica Lange was doing but it rarely worked for me. Maybe it is because we’ve gotten so many better “deranged mothers suffering from Munchausen by proxy” performances in the past year alone that this one felt stale, but I honestly found myself bored by her scenes.

    Spoilers about the finale and season two ahead…

    But back to the finale, the tone of that episode felt really different from the rest of the season, which was both a good and a bad thing. In terms of setting up season two, it does a great job of setting up a new set of characters while also resetting the animosity among the main cast and getting them on the same team. Furthermore, the tone was much more subdued and I thought that really worked whereas the rest of the season was moving at such a breakneck pace that it was hard to keep up with the ridiculous twists and turns. But on the other hand, was it necessary to make this episode the finale of season one when it could just as easily work as the premiere of season two? The story of the first seven episodes was its own thing and this next story should’ve been in its own season instead of tacked onto a different election storyline. Then again, I would be way less enthused about a season two without the finale, so I guess it has that going for it. The finale seemed to set up that none of Payton’s family — including Paltrow — would be in the show moving forward (outside of maybe a guest appearance or something), as well as Deutch and Lange. I’m fine with not seeing Lange again, but I would’ve honestly preferred to switch out Infinity with Skye. I’m not sure why those people would forgive Skye for trying to literally murder Payton, but that is a pretty white cast without her presence. I expect to see the show and Platt nominated at the Globes because this is Netflix’s shiny new thing, but anything beyond that I am not ready to formulate my thoughts on just yet. So yeah, I’m conflicted on the show overall but I do see a pretty good set-up for the future, so I guess I can be excited about that.

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    Only two episodes in and the show is really entertaining and the camp is great but I just can’t stand Lange in this. Platt Paltrow and Deutch are great, and I love Laura Dreyfuss’s and Theo Germaine’s characters.

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    So after going through the script of the pilot, yes Streisand was supposed to play the same role. The only difference between the script and the show is the name of the character, she was originally called Greta. But that’s it.

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    I’m in the middle of episode 3 and stopped (for what I can’t recall. Football game? Dinner? Something at least) and this has some entertaining moments but some moments that play to Ryan Murphy’s worst instinct. It has too much camp to be grounded in reality and too much reality to be grounded in camp, so tonally, it can be a mess at times. Ben Platt is giving it his all and about has flop sweat trying to. Paltrow is good so far, but hoping she has more to do. I think she’s a good actress overall. I’m not sure what show Lange is acting in, but I don’t think it’s the same one as everyone else. Is she doing the drag version of Patricia Arquette in The Act? I’m hoping it gets better but it’s very meh for me right now. At times it plays like a lesser version of Murphy’s “Popular”

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