September 10, 2019 at 10:59 am #1203067814
So excited for this because I have never done more days as an extra than on this show and I might have done more days on it than any other extra. Here I am in my uncredited role as the village cook:September 10, 2019 at 11:37 am #1203067855
Extras are paid differently in Canada, so I cannot say if that is true in the States, but it was definitely not the case for us!September 10, 2019 at 11:38 am #1203067857
Apple is really thirsty for success and dildos. Something tells me it’s not gonna have a good “welcome” year whatsoever.September 10, 2019 at 11:43 am #1203067866
This screams “I’ve heard that Game of Thrones has ended!” The concept is amazing though, will definitely binge this.September 10, 2019 at 7:55 pm #1203068583
Miss Alfre wants some more Emmys, I see lol.
Intriguing premise. Yes, a very opportunistic ploy to be the next “Game of Thrones.” “Heeeere, GOT stans! We even have a fan favorite to dangle right in front of you!” Looks super expensive. Apple money for ya! I wonder how sustainable this all is though.October 27, 2019 at 1:56 am #1203154505
Good old Ralph graciously provided me the first three episodes of this and other Apple shows. My article will be coming after the embargo lifts on Monday.October 28, 2019 at 8:11 am #1203155901
Apparently all 4 shows are lame. Definitely not surprised that this one is, it was very obvious. It looks as useless as the one Henry Cavill is doing and like those Vikings and Spartacus type shows I never had any intention of watching. I’ll give this one a chance, and by chance I mean a few minutes out of curiosity. But it’s something we’ll have to deal with in the years following Game of Thrones. Just like we had to deal with Flashforward, Alcatraz, The Event and so on after Lost ended, and all those failed pilots and Devious Maids after Desperate Housewives ended.
I have no need for that Dickinson show and apparently For All Man Kind is the only good one.
It’s funny how badly Apple fucked up with this first group of shows. And of course they all have a second season already, which is even funnier.October 28, 2019 at 8:31 am #1203155941
They have a show from Damien Chazelle. He will write and direct every episode. I suppose that can be great.October 29, 2019 at 6:11 pm #1203158221
This was like the last two seasons of Game of Thrones in that the story jumps around without regard for time and space. The difference is that Game of Thrones had six previous seasons to develop the characters; there is no reason to care about anyone in See. It is extra disappointing because I saw the potential while working on the show.
Most extra work is just day calls as a passer-by. See was different because I was cast as one of fifty extras in Jason Momoa’s “Alkenny” tribe. Plus, there would be battle scenes in which they would only use about twenty of us or we would shoot at the waterfall and they would only bring a dozen of us. Then only five extras accompany Momoa and company to the “festival” in the third episode. Casting or some department must have liked me because I was actually there for all of these configurations, hence why I mentioned that I might have done more days than any other extra on this show. Our Alkenny tribe worked on this show for months; we shot on location near Whistler and on an island off the coast of Vancouver, so they put us up in hotels and paid us to be on standby. The typical day would begin with being picked up from our hotels in town and driving on a winding road for a hundred minutes by bus to a our remote set in the forest. We would lose reception twenty minutes into the drive. Then we would get back to our hotels around 7:30.
What really made See different though was not the time, accommodation or exotic locations, but the effort that they put in with us because the general idea is that anyone can be an extra. The first thing that they did with us back in the city for this show was put all of us in “blind boot camp” where we went through training on how to be blind and also learned about things specific to how the Alkenny function. Then when we were out on location, they would bring us out to set early for exercises that would get us into character. I have never seen or heard of a production putting this much care into the extras.
But none of this comes across in the show. Of course, the extras do not really matter, so that we were mostly cut out is not a huge deal in itself and or even unusual, but it is illustrative in this case. What surprised me when watching the show is that even the actors have largely been cut out. There are actors who were there with us for months, standing in front of the extras and right behind Jason Momoa, who get one line in the first episode and do not speak again. In the vein of Game of Thrones, this is a show that I happen to know will kill major characters in future episodes and nobody is going to care because the characters have not been built up. The other reason that the extras do not matter is because we are basically just set dressing. Every set that I have been on over the last six years has had much more detail than you could ever see on screen and it not really for that. It is to get the actors in the right head space so that they can properly sell the world of the show. The problem on this show is that our vessel was Jason Momoa.
For as much potential as I saw while working on this show, there were continually concerns for which I and other extras had that we hoped we were just out of the loop. Most of these related to the narrative, but one was about Momoa’s performance, which is terrible. He is a fun guy and great for the energy on set, but this is supposed to be a serious drama and he was just as affable on as he was off camera. He also could not remember his lines. We would do so many takes that all of the appropriate intonation would be gone by the time that he got close enough to the line as scripted. All of our concerns about the narrative also turned out to be totally valid. I imagined that there would be scenes of which I was unaware that would be in the final cut to fill in the gaps and there are not. They have actually gone the other way, cutting things that we filmed that make things even less coherent. I did not just see the potential on set; I saw it on the monitors while on set. But the breathtaking visuals do not register in the final product because the show never takes the time to breathe; it is just on to the next thing. The tone and pacing are so messy, especially in the action sequences. The sound design and title sequence are further misfires.October 30, 2019 at 3:21 am #1203158592
This is really fascinating. Great read!
One of the things that terrifies me about this streaming war, is how much money is wasted in this battlefield. One could say that was always the case with everything that Hollywood does, but I feel like TV executives are losing their heads. It’s like they stopped thinking rationally.
Like pop songs these days, many of those shows are made in “TV shows hit factory”, but it is the biggest fraud possible, because while wider audience loves familiar themes, I truly think originality defines success in a way that feels timeless.
“SEE” has everything I love about fantasy or post apocalyptic genre, but it already looked like a fast copy of GOT, and thinking that you can make another GOT is a recipe for disaster and proof that TV learned the wrong lesson from GOT success.October 30, 2019 at 3:25 am #1203158594
Thanks for the insight, Riley! Very, very interesting. That’s exactly what the show looked like to me when I saw the first trailer; it’s almost a rip-off of The 100 in terms of its aesthetics and maybe even storyline, no? Jason Momoa is a lovely person, but I never considered him a good actor and quite frankly never understood the hype for him during and after Game of Thrones. He never had all that much to do in the first season and was actually quite one-note at times. I always think it’s bad when an actor doesn’t know his or her lines; it’s kind of irresponsible, and I’m sorry, but it’s just part of your job! I don’t think he can carry the weight of an entire show on his back, which is what the first person on the call sheet has to be capable of.
Oscar FYC - Lupita Nyong'o & Elisabeth Moss ("Us") - Best Actress & Supporting Actress. It must happen; otherwise the Tethered are coming.October 30, 2019 at 8:20 pm #1203159882
To think people had/have jason on their golden globe predictionsOctober 31, 2019 at 7:47 pm #1203161289
Riley, how did the staff react when he couldn’t remember his lines? That must be stressful for everyone.October 31, 2019 at 10:58 pm #1203161461
37 on metacritic now
wowNovember 1, 2019 at 4:20 pm #1203162309
Watched the first episode. It was certainly better than a metascore of 37. This is for the mainstream audience and its IMDb score consolidates it. I enjoyed it mostly because it was merely entertaining. It looks like it’s a movie and has incredible shots, you can tell it is quite expensive.
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