July 31, 2013 at 12:44 am #292815
Topic for discussion:
Should the Emmys abandon their long-held rule of honoring individual writers and directors for a specific episode in Drama and Comedy, and instead nominate the entire team of writers/directors for the overall series?
They already do it this way for Variety Series, where the entire team of writers get a collective nomination and trophies are awarded to all of them if they win.
The category titles of Outstanding Writing in a Drama Series or Outstanding Directing in a Comedy Series already mistakenly allude to the fact that they’re honoring the SHOW as opposed to honoring the individual. In other words, the titles aren’t Outstanding Writer or Outstanding Director which would be more accurate for how things are currently handled.
My two cents: The WGA and DGA have separate categories: one for individual writers/directors and one for the show with the best overall writing/directing, so that would be the place to honor specific men and women in these fields. The Emmys, I think, should adhere to honoring the entire team of writers/directors for the season. Your thoughts?Riley (the normal one, not the one who won the predictions contest)ParticipantJuly 31, 2013 at 11:13 am #292817
Interesting topic and one that I can see merit for both sides, but my vote is ultimately to keep it as is. With your argument, the hairstyling award should be for Outstanding Hairstylist. The fact of the matter is that all Emmys, from supporting actor to art direction, are awarded based on episodes; the writing and directing categories just appear to a bit more overt about it.
For variety series, I think that it kind of is based on episodes already because all of the writers contribute to every episode. It would be impossible to pick out one or two of them as they do in comedy and drama.
The DGA actually does not have a separate category to recognize entire shows; they only recognize individual directors for individual episodes.July 31, 2013 at 11:24 am #292818
I believe the WGA and DGA should recongnize teams. The Emmys should continue to nominate individual episodes. I do think there should be a cap with no show being able to submit more than two episodes.July 31, 2013 at 11:30 am #292819
The Daytime Emmys, aka in these parts the “they don’t count” Emmys, does this and it makes sense for them to do that b/c they churn out yearly television and have a rotation of script writers. Here it is a team effort of course, but each writer has their episode assignments for the season. And I feel like that award is an award for both the writer and the show. So I say keep it the same.July 31, 2013 at 11:33 am #292820
I agree that it should be kept the way that it is. I like the cap idea, but I also think that a writer should only be allowed one submission, whether or not he/she wrote the episode solo or with another person/people.July 31, 2013 at 11:35 am #292821
I agree with one episode per writer whether it’s a solo effort or they’re other writers credited.July 31, 2013 at 11:47 am #292822
I don’t like the idea of the writing teams because of the uneven nature of a season. By going to writing teams, you’d be focusing on consistency rather than the true stand out moments in the season. While ideally I can see an argument for that, I think it would just end up with the safest nominee winning every time.
I agree it should be only episode for writer, no matter if its a sole nomination or writing team (sorry Weiner), and I agree it should be two, maybe three episodes per show tops. Three sounds like a good number, as that is half of the episode number in the Series submissions.July 31, 2013 at 11:49 am #292823
I said two episodes, because I never want to see a show, no matter how much I loved the season, take up more than a couple writing or directing slots.July 31, 2013 at 11:50 am #292824
Actually the DGA only honors individual episodes.
Correct me if I’m mistaken, but don’t they send tapes in the writing for a variety series categories once the nominations are decided? The writing staff picks one episode that represents their very best, so it’s pretty much the same.
On the other hand I would hate for them to give up on the individual episode thing, because this would make the category really boring and the popular vote would ruin it. They’ll pretty much nominate the drama and comedy nominees and stuff like Buffy or Community or Friday Nights Lights or The Wire and Battlestar Galactica probably wouldn’t have been nominated under that system.Riley (the normal one, not the one who won the predictions contest)ParticipantJuly 31, 2013 at 11:59 am #292825
Yes, only one episode per writer really needs to be enforced.July 31, 2013 at 2:56 pm #292826
Yeah, I agree with the majority here so far. I actually like the idea of individual writers and directions who don’t usually get mainstream recognition, get some award recognition. Sometimes it’s a little sketchy because we don’t always know how much a credited writer contributed to an episode vs. the writing staff. But…still…I’d keep it the way it is now.
I’m less sure about the “2 episodes per show” cap though. And also, I don’t think a writer should have to choose between submitting a sole credit and a co-credit. That’s too messy and I feel like a lot of potentially worthy “episodes” will be left out as a result of that. But that change wouldn’t bother me too much tbh. And I do believe what Matthew Weiner (and Semi Chellas) attempted last year was a little slimy.
And, hey, using the OP’s logic, the SAGs also technically award individual performers now. Maybe the Emmys should just honor full casts. I don’t think actors should be more worthy of recognition than directors and writers.July 31, 2013 at 3:40 pm #292827
Maybe the Emmys should just honor full casts. I don’t think actors should be more worthy of recognition than directors and writers.July 31, 2013 at 3:40 pm #292828
Well, maybe instead of having a writer choose only one submission, solo credit or not, the writer can have AT MOST two submissions and only one each of solo and co-credit.
So someone like Matt Weiner whose name shows up on pretty much every script would have to choose only one solo credit and only one co-credit, but not two of either kind.
It’s really ridiculous that Mad Men submitted 9 episodes in writing this past season and Weiner’s name was on 7 or 8 of them.July 31, 2013 at 3:45 pm #292829
Maybe the Emmys should just honor full casts. I don’t think actors should be more worthy of recognition than directors and writers.
Then ratings and interest go down greatly, just like it would if the Oscars did that.
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