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    Given those reviews looked fairly strong, it’s a shame this isn’t eligibility for the current year. It’s nice to see Strahovski getting a lead role, and one that apparently gives her a great showcase. And having Cate Blanchett back on TV so soon after Mrs. America is a welcome surprise. I’m also interested in Jai Courtney. He impressed me in Suicide Squad, and I’d like to see him in more character and serious roles, which based on that film might be where his true talent lies.

    Strahovski has already had a lead role! Albeit it was a terrible one in a Comedy series.

    But yeah I get what you mean. If she doesn’t win the Emmy this year I hope she’s in a strong chance next year. She should win for that scene in Episode 5 of THT alone.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    Netflix trailer Yvonne Strahovski Flees Cult in Trailer for Cate Blanchett’s Netflix Immigration Series ‘Stateless’ (THR)

    I’m just gonna go ahead and say it.

    This is a lock for at least one above the line category. If it had aired before the deadline I think it would have won Limited Series.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    Sorry, you watched one trailer and think it would’ve taken down Watchmen (especially with what’s going on in the US right now) and also Mrs America?

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    Sorry, you watched one trailer and think it would’ve taken down Watchmen (especially with what’s going on in the US right now) and also Mrs America?

    I think it could have been very relevant in a similar way Watchmen is relevant in the US.

    I think this very easily could have been Netflix’s main push considering the topic and how warm the reviews were for it in Australia. I guess I was over exaggerating though due to excitement for the show considering we don’t know how it will land yet in the States (hopefully quite well).

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    Reviews (Berlinale/ABC)

    Reviews (Netflix)

    Boston Globe: “The six-part series, available July 8, is a masterfully told, forcefully acted nightmare about life in a dirty, bureaucratically impacted limbo — this one fictional and in Australia, called Barton Detention Center. It bears the prestige of having Cate Blanchett as a co-creator and cast member, but it isn’t a Blanchett vehicle by any stretch . . . Strahovski really gets the chance to shine, as a woman who, it becomes increasingly clear, has a mental illness. She makes the story of Sofie — inspired by the true story of a woman named Cornelia Rau — into something both tragic and darkly ironic. Courtney and Keddie also do fine work. The heart of the series, though, is Bazzi, whose Ameer drives home both the hopes and the horrors of those seeking asylum from violence and cruelty.”

    Entertainment Weekly: “The ending does offer viewers a modicum of hope, without discounting the significant reforms still required to amend immigration policies around the globe. Stateless is a bit of a tough sit, for sure, but you’ll find it even tougher to turn away.”

    Financial Times: “Stateless focuses on the humanitarian crisis of Australia’s immigration detention centres, dramatising the failings of a system that appears doomed to reduce both sides to incomprehension, mistrust and debasement . . . Sofie’s struggle for a meaningful life could look self-indulgent when contrasted with Ameer’s desperate desire simply to stay alive. It helps that Strahovski is sensational in the role of Sofie, a woman flailing on the edge of madness . . . overall Stateless is a faceted exploration of a key issue of our time, and deeply affecting whenever Ameer’s huge, pained eyes swim into view.”

    TV Guide: “Despite moving and deeply human performances throughout, Stateless’ refusal to take a stance makes it oddly futile.”

    Variety: “It’s just that West and Blanchett are at society’s fringes, while anti-immigrant sentiment — as series-ending onscreen titles about the ongoing crisis of Australia’s detention centers, now placed offshore — is at the center of societies the world over. It’s a point ‘Stateless’ makes crisply, one that gains in power from the hairpin-reversing manner through which the series arrives there, and one that makes it urgent viewing.”

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    Reviews (Netflix) Boston Globe: “The six-part series, available July 8, is a masterfully told, forcefully acted nightmare about life in a dirty, bureaucratically impacted limbo — this one fictional and in Australia, called Barton Detention Center. It bears the prestige of having Cate Blanchett as a co-creator and cast member, but it isn’t a Blanchett vehicle by any stretch . . . Strahovski really gets the chance to shine, as a woman who, it becomes increasingly clear, has a mental illness. She makes the story of Sofie — inspired by the true story of a woman named Cornelia Rau — into something both tragic and darkly ironic. Courtney and Keddie also do fine work. The heart of the series, though, is Bazzi, whose Ameer drives home both the hopes and the horrors of those seeking asylum from violence and cruelty.” Entertainment Weekly: “The ending does offer viewers a modicum of hope, without discounting the significant reforms still required to amend immigration policies around the globe. Stateless is a bit of a tough sit, for sure, but you’ll find it even tougher to turn away.” Financial Times: “Stateless focuses on the humanitarian crisis of Australia’s immigration detention centres, dramatising the failings of a system that appears doomed to reduce both sides to incomprehension, mistrust and debasement . . . Sofie’s struggle for a meaningful life could look self-indulgent when contrasted with Ameer’s desperate desire simply to stay alive. It helps that Strahovski is sensational in the role of Sofie, a woman flailing on the edge of madness . . . overall Stateless is a faceted exploration of a key issue of our time, and deeply affecting whenever Ameer’s huge, pained eyes swim into view.” TV Guide: “Despite moving and deeply human performances throughout, Stateless’ refusal to take a stance makes it oddly futile.” Variety: “It’s just that West and Blanchett are at society’s fringes, while anti-immigrant sentiment — as series-ending onscreen titles about the ongoing crisis of Australia’s detention centers, now placed offshore — is at the center of societies the world over. It’s a point ‘Stateless’ makes crisply, one that gains in power from the hairpin-reversing manner through which the series arrives there, and one that makes it urgent viewing.”

    Interesting how some of the reviews rave about it and some are like meh.

    Waiting to see the viewership for this before deciding on how much it can help Yvonne at the Emmys this year for THT.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    I’m going to assume this is addressed but I can’t help but wonder why a refugee story has a white protagonist?

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    I’m going to assume this is addressed but I can’t help but wonder why a refugee story has a white protagonist?

    I see your point but I think this is based on a true story so they didn’t really had a choice.

    I enjoyed watching the show and the topic is obviously relevant but it’s clearly not on the same level of quality than Watchmen/Mrs America/Little Fires.

    Yvonne Strahovski performance is, as always, really good though.

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    I’m going to assume this is addressed but I can’t help but wonder why a refugee story has a white protagonist?

    Sofie Werner (Yvonne Strahovski) is loosely based on Cornelia Rau. Hers was a high-profile case in Australia in the early 2000s. Initially, Stateless was going to center only on her story when it was first announced in 2015 as Cate Blanchett’s directorial debut.

    It’s a long, complicated story. Let me pull some quotes from articles about Rau’s case and the series. Long read and possible spoilers ahead (Is there any way to insert a “Read More” or a Spoiler tag here or should I just let this long post be?):

    Cate Blanchett on global politics and immigration detention: ‘You’re living in a system that’s gone mad’ (The Guardian):

    In 2004, Rau was sedated, put in restraints and transported against her will to South Australia’s Baxter detention centre. Authorities suspected she was an illegal immigrant; in fact, Rau was a German citizen and Australian permanent resident who suffered from a mental illness.

    New ABC and Netflix series Stateless is a show about refugees, so why is the cast so white? (ABC):

    In 2005 it emerged that Ms Rau, a German citizen and Australian resident, had been unlawfully detained for 10 months.

    Her detention triggered a major review of the immigration department’s systems.

    We owe Rau and Alvarez apologies: PM (The Sydney Morning Herald):

    “The Government acknowledges these mistakes and accepts that changes need to be made within the department,” Senator Vanstone said.

    “Mr Palmer has identified systemic weaknesses in DIMIA which contributed to the length of Ms Rau’s detention, the failure to establish her identity and meet her mental health needs.”

    Stateless review: remembering a time when we were outraged (George Newhouse* via The Conversation):

    After Mick Palmer published his report on Rau’s experience, the Howard government took immediate steps to improve transparency and institute independent medical oversight of the detainees. But 12 years after Rau’s torture was revealed, Tony Abbott reversed those protections and Australia’s immigration detention system quickly spiralled into another crisis.

    * George Newhouse served as one of Rau’s lawyers.

    United Stateless (Drama Quarterly):

    In TV terms, six years developing a single project is entirely realistic, but Blanchett says it took particular perseverance to see this story into production.

    “As soon as you mentioned the word refugee, doors closed – quite literally for refugees, but also the doors of various television executives. They would say, ‘Hmm, interesting, brave,’ and then that’s about as far as the conversation goes,” Blanchett reveals.

    This is from one of the more detailed articles but it’s behind a pay wall. (Also mentioned in the article is “Kenja”, the basis for the characters of Blanchett and Dominic West.)

    The unknown story of Cornelia Rau (The Monthly):

    In politics, the precise relationship between cause and effect is usually unclear. Some of the things that happened in the six months following the release of Cornelia Rau would certainly have happened anyway. Some, most likely, would not. What is clear, however, is that the case of Cornelia Rau shaped public opinion about the treatment of asylum seekers in a way no previous episode had. The Cornelia Rau affair taught the public that the lazy trust it had placed in government – not to inflict on innocents serious harm – was unwarranted. It was able to do this, as almost everyone immediately understood, because the person who had suffered false imprisonment and neglect was not a swarthy, dark-skinned, Islamic outsider. She was “one of us”. If, in February 2005, it had been discovered that a mentally ill Australian woman of Iranian descent had been wrongfully imprisoned, the transformative effect on public opinion would almost certainly have been immeasurably less.

    Back to ABC:

    McCredie said she took a leaf out of Jenji Kohan’s book — she’s the creator of the Netflix hit Orange Is The New Black.

    Kohan said she used white main character Piper Chapman as a “Trojan Horse” to get the show made.

    Back to The Guardian:

    It is Sofie, however, played with eye-wincing rawness by Strahovski, who becomes the series’ Trojan horse. As co-creator and writer Elise McCredie explains: “She leads us into this world … We’re opening the door through Sofie’s eyes.”

    ABC:

    But if you take this white girl, this sort of fish out of water, and you follow her in, you can then expand your world and tell all of those other stories.
    . . .

    And honestly, in terms of financing it, we had to make a decision early: do we make a show or not make a show?

    If you keep watching you’ll see we do lead you in with these characters … but once we’re in the detention centre, there’s an ensemble of characters that you’ll meet and that their stories will unfurl.

    The Variety review touched on how the approach played out:

    There’s a touch of “Orange Is the New Black” at work here: Strahovski’s seemingly out-of-place blonde opens up the story for a subset of the audience less inclined to see her fellow prisoners as real people with struggles, as Taylor Schilling’s character did on her dramedy. And over time, Strahovski, as Schilling, comes both to become less of the story’s main event and less the object of our sympathy, as we see just how easy it is for people every bit as brave as her but not white women to get ensnared in hell.

     

    Further reading:

    Cornelia Rau, Australia’s immigration wars and the true story behind TV drama Stateless (ABC)

    The true story of Cornelia Rau, the woman who inspired a gripping new ABC drama, Stateless (Mamamia)

    Stateless is an important call to action – but back off my sister (The Sydney Morning Herald, written by Chris Rau, Cornelia Rau’s sister)

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    Starts off at 80 on Rotten Tomatoes with 10 reviews.

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/stateless/s01

    79 on Metacritic with 6 reviews.

    https://www.metacritic.com/tv/stateless

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    Only watching to see Queen Blanchett do her thing…and do it flawlessly.

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    I watched this today and thought it was pretty good. The performances were great and Yvonne Strahovski should definitely be considered for next year’s awards.

    The other standouts from the series, for me, were Asher Keddie and Fayssal Bazzi. Cate Blanchett was perfect as usual but she has too little screentime compared to the rest of the cast.

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    I watched this today and thought it was pretty good. The performances were great and Yvonne Strahovski should definitely be considered for next year’s awards. The other standouts from the series, for me, were Asher Keddie and Fayssal Bazzi. Cate Blanchett was perfect as usual but she has too little screentime compared to the rest of the cast.

    I would think this is by design. As much as I love Cate, I’m glad to see she’s providing other capable actors with a showcase.

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    Yvonne Strahovski is TVLine’s Performer of the Week (contains spoilers for episode 1).

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