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November 21, 2016 at 2:40 pm #1201954390This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.November 21, 2016 at 2:43 pm #1201954392
Stranger Things seems more likely based off the fact that it became a talking point, a cult hit, and a near cultural phenomenon – you can buy shirts with Barbs face on; people dressed as Eleven for Halloween.
Westworld seems much quieter and significantly less buzzy than Stranger Things.
The residual love for ST, in a similar vein to Mr Robot this time last year, should carry it through.
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Stranger Things is such a big Emmy question mark to me. Normally, it is very much NOT the kind of show that the Emmys embrace, especially for a first season, but its cultural impact and buzz will be hard to ignore. I am reminded of Heroes season one – another atypical show for the Emmys that has massive impact and managed a nod for season one. At the moment, I am toying with the prospect of both WW and ST getting in. I think we can see a lineup like:
It would be a shame for Better Call Saul to fall out since I think it is supremely underrated but it doesn’t appear to be a show that Emmy voters are actually watching considering its pretty poor showing for Season 2 (no one actually watching would have voted for Banks over McKean for example, no writing or directing, no Rhea Seehorn, etc.). Of course, reactions to Mr. Robot Season 2 have been all over the place so that may fall out as well (which would also make me pretty bummed since I seem to be in the minority that really loved Season 2 and would love to see an uptick in nominations, especially gaining a directing spot and maybe an additional actor like Carly Chaikin).
All that to say, I think the drama lineup is flexible this year and I could see both making it in. I am less sure about ST getting an actor in to further the Heroes comparison. The standout was certainly Millie Bobbi Brown, but with the Emmys reluctance to embrace child actors mixed with all the other impediments for the show I think it could be the rare series nominee with no acting nominations. Winona Ryder’s performance may be too supporting to compete with the powerhouses currently in the actress lineup who all pretty much anchor their show.November 21, 2016 at 5:12 pm #1201954437
The best thing about both of these shows are the scores! I would love to see what would win if they both get into Main Title, Composition etc. On the acting side Westworld is clearly better imo, but Stranger Things has a mainstream appeal that the Emmys may try to recognise that Westworld doesn’t.
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I acyrually disagree about the acting. I recognize that Westworld a actors are great, but in my opinion, thandie newton is the only amazing performance. However, everyone on stranger things stands out to me, from Ryder to Haurbor to Brown.
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Both will get nominated in many categories.
Stranger Things: Series, Supporting Actress (Ryder), Supporting Actor (Modine), Directing, Writing, Editing, Cinematography, Casting, Production Design, Visual Effects, Score, Main Title Music.
Westworld: Series, Actress (Wood), Actor (Hopkins), Supporting Actress (Newton), Supporting Actor (Harris & Wright), Writing, Directing, Editing, Cinematography, Casting, Costumes, Production Design, Score, Main Title Design, Main Title Music.November 22, 2016 at 5:21 am #1201954815
My guess is Westworld. Stranger Things (as popular as it is) seems like a show the Emmys would ignore.November 22, 2016 at 6:18 am #1201954831
I can actually fathom Westworld winning the Drama Series Emmy. I think Stranger Things, much as I personally adored it, is being highly overestimated in terms of its awards pull.
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@jacob121 is spot-on. Stranger Things is a massive question mark. It is so off-brand for the Emmys, being genre and about kids, but everybody has seen it and everybody loves it. Why would the Emmy voters be so different? It better win TCA Program of the Year.
I bet that Westworld does better though. HBO, prestige, budget, big names, good reviews, open slots—what more do you want?
As for Better Call Saul, I do not take Bob Odenkirk’s SAG nomination lightly. It is a huge feat getting in for a first season, so I could see it occupying a similar space as Homeland where it always gets in, even though it is not competitive for the win any more (and we can say that Better Call Saul was when it was Breaking Bad) and it is questionable whether they are still watching (per the Mandy Patinkin and Miranda Otto snubs).
I thought that Ray Donovan would be getting in this year, but Stranger Things might shake things up and a second season of The Night Of starring John Turturro could be announced officially at any time. Let us see if Ray Donovan builds on its momentum at the guilds.November 22, 2016 at 10:10 am #1201955050
‘Stranger Things isn’t the Emmys bag’
Erm…neither are Mr Robot or UnREAL really, but both got major nominations – with Mr Robot even winning.
Game of Thrones wasn’t typical Emmy fare when it started, and now look at it. Eventually, things change. Voters change. Stranger Things is one of *the* defining shows of 2016, and they don’t have a prejudice against nominating Netflix shows.
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