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Stranger Things will only be nominated if
Killing Eve or Ozark or Westworld flop
Two of the three shows mentioned flop
All three series flop
It will not be nominated in any situation
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    Gabriel P. (gabspss)
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    Flop means a not well received season, btw

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    FYC : J. Smith-Cameron
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    I still think we’re underestimating it. It got in at Ensemble at SAG when many shows such as The Morning Show didn’t. SAG had the chance to drop it but they didn’t (whilst they did drop Westworld for Season 2 in a weak year).

    Westworld has to be really good for there to be absolutely no chance and either Killing Eve or Ozark have to be really bad.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    I’m not really expecting any of those shows to flop, but I still think it’ll be nominated for series. Maybe I’m crazy, but I just don’t think a show that popular will be dropped when the season was actually well received. Yes, the hype for Stranger Things isn’t what I once was, but I talk with several people who still watch and love the show, so it’s still there.

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    This is Us missed ensemble for its first season, then it won two acting Emmys for its first season and the next two ensemble awards, getting series nominations all along the way. I would not hold The Morning Show‘s ensemble snub against it; it is impressive enough that it got a win and three nominations right out of the gate.

    I actually think that Ozark has a strong enough base that it can afford to flop without its nominations really affected, like the fifth season of House of Cards or last season of Westworld. Unlike Killing Eve, Stranger Things and Westworld, it has not showed any signs of weakness, so there is not enough time for any flopping to manifest in the Emmy nominations. All three of those (and The Handmaid’s Tale) missed PGA and DGA for their most recent seasons for example and Ozark hit both.

    Stranger Things did indeed get that ensemble nomination, but it got basically nothing else and we can only have so many dramas—probably just one and possibly none—carried to a series nomination essentially by the acting branch alone. The Morning Show and This is Us are competing for the same slot. I do not even have The Handmaid’s Tale in my predictions right now and that is a show that continues to demonstrate broader support and also had deeper support in the first place, so I voted the last poll option because I have Stranger Things in tenth (with Killing Eve in twelfth).

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    I, too, think this is being underestimated. Personally, I believe it’s ahead of The Morning Show, Killing Eve, The Outsider and many more that are strangely ahead of it in the predictions center. We already know the academy likes the show – doesn’t mean they still do now, of course – while we have no data for TMS or The Outsider; this will be the year to see whether KE establishes itself as an academy darling since its good performance last year might have just been due to a lack of competition. The third season of ST was, admittedly, a bit silly, but hasn’t the show always been? It’s always been pretty straightforward, and every season has pretty much followed the same formula. Personally, the third season was my favorite, so I’m not sure I can understand all strikes against it.

    That’s not to say, however, that I’m predicting it, because I’m not – at least at the moment. As Riley has mentioned, it being dropped by so many guilds is worrisome. And quite honestly, while it’s still the biggest show in the world (now that GOT has ended), the buzz for S3 wasn’t that great, or at least as great as I expected it to be. Plus, the show went from 18 bids for S1 to 12 for S2, which already wasn’t a good sign.

    With all said, I’m still keeping it in that 8-10 range in my predictions simply because of the voting system. With no limitations, I could easily see enough people checking it off out of habit.

    Emmys FYC - "Unbelievable" and "The Handmaid's Tale" in all categories; Viola Davis in Best Drama Actress for the final season of "HTGAWM;" "Ozark:" Drama Series, Laura Linney (Best Actress) and Julia Garner (Best Supporting Actress)

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    I see Drama Series like this:

    LOCKED
    1. Succession

    2. The Crown

    VERY LIKELY
    3. Ozark – locked as long as isn’t truly dreadful

    4. Better Call Saul

    PROBABLE
    5. The Handmaid’s Tale – seems like the kind of past-its-sell-by-date show to just hang on. Did well enough with the guilds that it should be fine. Wouldn’t get in if voters were limited with how many series they could vote for.

    6. Westworld – it got 20+ nominations two seasons in a row. The critical reception for the upcoming season seems on par with the previous. The storylines this season seem more accessible so should maintain with general public.

    LAST SLOT

    7. The Morning Show – Just moved it up. It surprised at SAG so should be popular with the acting branch. Thanks to Aniston’s win, it is currently accompanied by positive buzz instead of the more critical reception that came with its debut. Most of all though, Apple is going to put a lot of money into this campaign and TMS is currently the only one that even has a shot. For a show that is adored by the more general public if not the critics, that should be enough.

    NEXT IN LINE

    8. Big Little Lies – it should be locked really. It got nominated by 5 guilds, including the most pivotal SAG and PGA, in addition to Globe noms. But this is all surface level. Because the issue the show faces is that it is accompanied by an aura of underperformance and also of scandal (thanks to the Andrea Arnold fuss). Due to its pedigree and the potential that the negative buzz is all just in online circles. My gut tells me it misses out though.

    9. This is Us – Yet to miss and the last network show standing. Still very popular. Did very well last year, especially with the actors. BUT it missed SAG ensemble for the first time and last year was a very weak year so that negates its success. If it gets in this year it might never miss.

    10. Stranger Things – the most watched show by a country mile with an incredibly popular third season. SAG gave it three nods! The show has basically maintained quality as well so there’s no real reason for it to suddenly miss. BUT it’s seemingly become a show that people like but don’t necessarily think deserves awards. The Globes and Critics Choice gave up on it as did all but three of the guilds. If it gets back in its due to visibility and little else.

    IN WITH A SHOT

    11. Killing Eve – it all depends on the quality really following last year’s sophomore slump. With a strong third season this could leap up this list. Especially given that every show from 5-10 except for The Morning Show is a fellow show that’s past its prime. The support for Jodie Comer kept it on the map at the winter awards. Last year’s weak field makes it difficult to judge it properly but we shouldn’t forget that it got nominations in every single one of the most important places: Series, Directing, Writing, Acting, Casting and Editing. One to watch.

    12. Pose – will air during voting as it did last year, which is a big boost if the race remains uncertain. Typically, seems like a classic one and done contender but its second season wasn’t a big dip in quality so it should still have a passionate support base – it’s just a question of whether that support base is big enough. With Billy Porter missing SAG, that seems doubtful.

    To answer the thread therefore: Stranger Things’ success is almost entirely irrespective of the three shows listed in the poll. Ozark would have to properly flop to fall behind it. Westworld flopping on brings it up to 9th and Killing Eve succeeding only knocks it down to 11th. Frankly there are no “if…” variables I see affecting the shows chances. What it needs is a strong, nostalgic campaign from Netflix that reminds people of the reliable show they love. Even then that may not be enough.

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    Um, this is ridiculous. “Stranger Things” is easily getting in. Remember, voters choose ALL the shows they think are worthy. They don’t have to limit it to a certain number. I guarantee it is getting in, regardless of how the above mentioned shows do.

    It is not in your predictions.

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    The competition is intense this year and that’s the main issue. Something will he snubbed… its just a matter of what show(s). I think people are predicting a Stranger Things snub because it has some of the least snob appeal being a sci-fi coming of age teen series. Still, it’s on Netflix, it stands out for being different, has consistently been nominated in the past for Series/Directing/Writing and as someone else wrote, it probably will be one of if not the most viewed season of television in contention.

    It’s probably getting in and we will probably see a record number of Drama Series nominees this year thanks to ties… I’m thinking 9.

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    The competition is intense this year and that’s the main issue. Something will he snubbed… its just a matter of what show(s). I think people are predicting a Stranger Things snub because it has some of the least snob appeal being a sci-fi coming of age teen series. Still, it’s on Netflix, it stands out for being different, has consistently been nominated in the past for Series/Directing/Writing and as someone else wrote, it probably will be one of if not the most viewed season of television in contention. It’s probably getting in and we will probably see a record number of Drama Series nominees this year thanks to ties… I’m thinking 9.

    Can only be 8 I think at most?

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    I’m currently predicting Drama Series to be like this at the moment

    Locks

    1. Succession (HBO)
    2. The Crown (Netflix)

    Very Likely

    3. Better Call Saul (AMC)

    Probable

    4. The Handmaid’s Tale (Hulu) – seems like House of Cards. A streaming show loved by actors with lots of buzz for its first two seasons but continues to stay in the Drama Series race despite getting less buzz.
    5. Ozark (Netflix) – Depends on quality.

    Last Two Slots

    6. Big Little Lies (HBO) – The category change for Watchmen has helped Big Little Lies a little bit but it all depends on how the Television Academy responds to this season. If Killing Eve, Ozark and/or Westworld get lots of buzz, this is out.
    7. Westworld (HBO) – after being dropped by most guilds (including SAG in a weak year), this starts at no.7. Again depends on this season.

    In With a Shot

    8. Stranger Things (Netflix) – Actors and wide viewership might get this over the line (Stranger Things still got nominated at SAG, Westworld didn’t).
    9. Killing Eve (BBC America) – what forwardswill said.
    10. The Morning Show (AppleTV) – it’s SAG explosion without ensemble seems to not count it out.

    Dark Horses

    11. This is Us (NBC) – it’s SAG ensemble snub is worrying for its chances.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    I wholly agree with your ranking, except, I wouldn’t place BCS that high. We seen to always over-predict it. I think I myself should probably move it to fourth.

    Emmys FYC - "Unbelievable" and "The Handmaid's Tale" in all categories; Viola Davis in Best Drama Actress for the final season of "HTGAWM;" "Ozark:" Drama Series, Laura Linney (Best Actress) and Julia Garner (Best Supporting Actress)

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    I wholly agree with your ranking, except, I wouldn’t place BCS that high. We seen to always over-predict it. I think I myself should probably move it to fourth.

    I feel like the acclaim is strong enough this time around, and now that it’s more like Breaking Bad, it feels like its increasing in popularity.

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    Hence, why I have it in third. But when i think about, it seems weird to put a show in third that hasn’t won a single Emmy yet, lol.

    Emmys FYC - "Unbelievable" and "The Handmaid's Tale" in all categories; Viola Davis in Best Drama Actress for the final season of "HTGAWM;" "Ozark:" Drama Series, Laura Linney (Best Actress) and Julia Garner (Best Supporting Actress)

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    Ozark won two major categories last year, I don’t see it missing a Drama Series nomination in any scenario. The Academy has an extreme affection to it from some reason.

    I do think ST is in danger, but i agree it depends on how Killing Eve and Westworld will do.

    For Your Consideration Emmys 2020:
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    Ozark won two major categories last year, I don’t see it missing a Drama Series nomination in any scenario. The Academy has an extreme affection to it from some reason. I do think ST is in danger, but i agree it depends on how Killing Eve and Westworld will do.

    I think we know Comer is a lock. For Killing Eve to get into series and get Shaw and Oh in, it needs to have a similar standard to Season 1, which may be a bit difficult.

    Westworld is in a very precarious position at the moment, apart from Newton (who didn’t get in at SAG when there was a weak year), it seems to have lost actor support, having lost the writers and directors support at the Emmys for Season 2 already. It needs to be better acclaimed than season 2 to get back in.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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