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  • Riley
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    She probably was below Thandie Newton (well obviously lol), THT actresses except maybe Alexis Bledel and Vanessa Kirby. So yeah she was probably 5 or 6, because I assume she was above MBB.

    Millie Bobby Brown got SAG though.  On the one hand, Peter Dinklage and Game of Thrones won, which suggests that Lena Headey must have done decently well in the nominations phase.  On the other hand, everyone else who was nominated the seasons before and after was snubbed, which suggests that she might have just barely held on and the wins might irrelevant.  The two-percent rule just needs to die.

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    Pulp
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    sag is so irrelevant

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    Mukund
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    Millie Bobby Brown got SAG though. On the one hand, Peter Dinklage and Game of Thrones won, which suggests that Lena Headey must have done decently well in the nominations phase. On the other hand, everyone else who was nominated the seasons before and after was snubbed, which suggests that she might have just barely held on and the wins might irrelevant. The two-percent rule just needs to die.

    They did get Waldau in for the first time though and I like to think that Clarke and maybe Harington would have been nominated if they didn’t change categories.

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    Kellyemm
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    The delusion is real. Gwendoline Christie is not Emmy (win)-worthy. The nomination is fine and good for her but she’s not winning. Just another person the media pushes but regardless in the end will flop.

    She got a nomination from no support from HBO so I am pretty sure she won by garnering the good will in the first place whether she gets the Emmy or not. She ended GoT on a massive high.

    She’s terrific and got a nom for a reason. It isn’t delusional. She had double or triple the screen time of Headey mostly in highly memorable or talked about scenes…and Headey is considered the clear winner?

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    Gwendoline was very good and totally worthy of a nomination but she got in simply because it was written Game of Thrones next to her name, not because of goodwill, respect or anything else.

    GIVE LENA HEADEY HER EMMY

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    Millie Bobby Brown got SAG though. On the one hand, Peter Dinklage and Game of Thrones won, which suggests that Lena Headey must have done decently well in the nominations phase. On the other hand, everyone else who was nominated the seasons before and after was snubbed, which suggests that she might have just barely held on and the wins might irrelevant. The two-percent rule just needs to die.

     

    You think Lena Heady was nominated last year because of the two percent rule? …Your hate of GoT is clouding your mind. Two of the three persons that were not nominated for season 7 but were nominated in Supporting before changed categories going instead for  Lead for the first time, the only one that were snubbed was Maise Williams.

    FYC: Drama Series: Game of Thrones, Comedy Series: Barry, Limited Series: Chernobyl, Drama Lead Actor: Bob Odenkirk (Better Call Saul), Drama Lead Actress: Emilia Clarke (Game of Thrones), Drama Directing: Miguel Sapochnik for The Long Night (Game of Thrones), Drama Writing: Jed Mercurio for Episode 1 (Bodyguard)

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    My point is probably not made very well. Christie has spent the last month or so since nominations were announced with basically 100% rolling positive press just for the nomination. I can almost assure you that if Dinklage walks away with yet another Supporting Actor win he’ll get a fraction of the total press that Christie has got in the last month. She and Alfie Allen have multiple movies each debuting at TIFF in a few weeks – their timing of their good press is impeccable.

     

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    You think Lena Heady was nominated last year because of the two percent rule? …Your hate of GoT is clouding your mind. Two of the three persons that were not nominated for season 7 but were nominated in Supporting before changed categories going instead for Lead for the first time, the only one that were snubbed was Maise Williams.

    I can’t see this either, Headey was terrific in Season 7.  Cersei at her finest.

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    You think Lena Heady was nominated last year because of the two percent rule? …Your hate of GoT is clouding your mind.

    i think he was more suggesting that the 2% rule makes it hard to decipher where people actually ranked in Emmys which is frustrating when the top 4/5 are usually identifiable.

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    Nobody said anything about Headey. But lmao! The fact that Brienne’s failed love story is supposedly Emmy worthy! I couldn’t care less about Headey, no GoT actress is winning anyway, but, since you mentioned her, what about Headey portraying a strong, yet cruel woman rising from under her children’s corpses to power in order to secure her legacy and her future by becoming queen of the whatever kingdoms? The fact that she stood tall until the very last minute gradually realising her defeat and then showed us a vulnerable side of Cersei right before death? Headey standing still just being in character still outacts the rest of the female cast lmfao. She was basically a guest star but it’s about quality, not quantity. It’s gonna be Fiona Shaw or Julia Garner anyway. It’s truly impossible to predict which one will win, but Shaw reminds me a Maggie Smith-esque type of performance in Downton Abbey so she’ll probably just take it in such boring year.

    Umm…everyone said everything about Headey. This entire thread is mostly about Headey.

    For what it’s worth: A Knight of The Seven Kingdoms is a fantastic submission. I have watched all six. It’s the standout.  Her rise to finally being knighted after being under-recognised for so long is the most touching moment of the season, not to mention she’s sensational in every other scene.

    As for the “failed romance”, that scene in the courtyard where Jaime (Coster Waldau) leaves is a point-blank plot twist moment which has had dozens of articles written about it and is so effective in changing opinions on Jaime because of how entirely bereft devastated, and hurt Christie plays it.

    I have zero ill will against Headey. I adore her and would actually be quite happy to see her finally win, I simply think Christie has had a better season (it’s not Headey’s fault she had such limited material). Her final scene is indeed very touching as a retrospective to a wonderful villain of a character.

    I can’t agree with you on the Shaw vs Maggie Smith comparisons. Shaw’s a great actress and that’s an interesting character but I simply don’t see that performance and character as fully featured enough to win.

    Garner is excellent and I would have absolutely no problem with her winning. I watched her nominated episode a few weeks back amongst other Ozark eps and she is intense – never breaks character – I always feel like I’m watching “documentary Ruth Langmore” when I watch her (and that’s meant as an enormous compliment). I don’t necessarily see particular moments or scenes as memorable as some of the others in this category, but her overall characterisaion is perhaps the finest.

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    I’m more than sure that either Bledel or MBB was 7th. Wouldn’t be surprised if it actually was Kirby but doubtful.

    MBB and Bledel were definitely the ones at 6th and 7th. About Kirby, i’m almost 100% sure that she was either 2nd or 3rd. She won BAFTA and had a lot of support. Not to mention that she had one of the best tapes, if not THE BEST one, and her acting in season 2 was outstanding. Lena was probably 4th or 5th.

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    Lena was at her best in Season 7. Her performance in episode 3 and 7 is mind-blowing. It would have been kinda impossible to miss out on a nomination I believe, even more so if the miscarriage scene had made it. Season 7 includes some of her finest work undoubtedly.

    “No one walks away from me” at the end of Season 7 might be one of her favourite scenes of hers, ever (ditto for Coster-Waldau).

    If we were giving retrospective awards for Supporting Actresses for GoT for the entire show I’d give it to Headey in a heartbeat, but simply not for Season 8. Christie’s emotions give heart to that messy season.

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    Gwendoline was very good and totally worthy of a nomination but she got in simply because it was written Game of Thrones next to her name, not because of goodwill, respect or anything else.

    Which actress this year has garnered acclaim independent of the show though? Garner, maybe, but SAG loved Ozark. Not Shaw, who’s been given a much less momentous role than her enigmatic presence in S1, but still got in. Not Williams or Turner whose fame & talent are very much intertwined with GoT’s success.

    Truth is this year’s ballot lacks strong competition (save Seehorn/Watson), ergo is thrown wide open to relative newcomers. And as much as Lena Headey deserves to be rewarded for past stellar seasons, her character’s demise arguably suffered the most from incoherent writing, for a lot of viewers it subtracts plausibility from an otherwise stunningly-acted scene.

    Not sure if I’d rule Christie out of the race as a mere namecheck. She delivered a compelling performance with the limited materials given. Take away her performance in the knighting scene, you get a even less memorable GoT s8 than it already is. That counts something for someone who barely affects the main plot. If it’s bound to spoil, itd be refreshing to see somebody like Christie emerge.

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    BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
    1. Giancarlo Esposito
    2. Jonathan Banks
    3. Peter Dinklage
    4. Nikolaj Coster-Waldau
    5. Alfie Allen
    6. Chris Sullivan

    Haven’t seen:
    Michael Kelly

    BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
    1. Maisie Williams
    2. Gwendoline Christie
    3. Julia Garner
    4. Lena Headey
    5. Sophie Turner

    Haven’t seen:
    Fiona Shaw

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    Kellyemm
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    Which actress this year has garnered acclaim independent of the show though? Garner, maybe, but SAG loved Ozark. Not Shaw, who’s been given a much less momentous role than her enigmatic presence in S1, but still got in. Not Williams or Turner whose fame & talent are very much intertwined with GoT’s success. Truth is this year’s ballot lacks strong competition (save Seehorn/Watson), ergo is thrown wide open to relative newcomers. And as much as Lena Headey deserves to be rewarded for past stellar seasons, her character’s demise arguably suffered the most from incoherent writing, for a lot of viewers it subtracts plausibility from an otherwise stunningly-acted scene. Not sure if I’d rule Christie out of the race as a mere namecheck. She delivered a compelling performance with the limited materials given. Take away her performance in the knighting scene, you get a even less memorable GoT s8 than it already is. That counts something for someone who barely affects the main plot. If it’s bound to spoil, itd be refreshing to see somebody like Christie emerge.

    Christie isn’t a namecheck. She squeezed the life out of every scene she had. She has wonderful stage reviews post GoT, and she’s done multiple other projects during Thrones particularly compared to Turner and Williams.

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