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    I personally would’ve given Aaron Paul wins for seasons 2, 3, and the second half of season 5, while giving Giancarlo Esposito a win for season 4. Also, while we’re on the topic of Breaking Bad, I’d just like to say that it’s an absolute crime that Dean Norris was never nominated. He should’ve gotten in for season 3, and especially the second half of season 5.

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    It’s ridiculous to say that the Emmys don’t like Lena Headey when she’s been nominated five times.

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    Well in all fairness, Cersei Lannister makes Skylar White look like a perfectly healthy individual. Cersei’s had her sympathetic moments, but she’s still an awful person through and through. Anyway, I’m not sure if I’d agree with the notion that Cersei being unlikable would stop her from winning. Plenty of other despicable characters have won Emmys, such as Bobby Cannavale on Boardwalk Empire or Ann Dowd on Handmaid’s Tale.

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    but there doesn’t seem to be overall support ever.

    Because Fiona Shaw (snubbed for the first season), Julia Garner (snubbed for the first season),  Maisie Williams (snubbed 6/8 times), Gwendoline Christie (snubbed 7/8 times) and Sophie Turner (snubbed 7/8 times) have more support? I have to laugh.

    GIVE LENA HEADEY HER EMMY

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    What’s really sad is that Lena Headey could’ve been a lock this year if they gave her more to do. I really love her, but she just had so little to do this year, and that’s really gonna hurt her chances.

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    You are correct. She has never been submitted before or submitted herself. I would argue the fact that she was nominated on the strength of no FYC support from HBO is evidence of support itself.

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    Honestly, if I were going on GoT episode submissions only, I think I would chose Coster-Waldau on the changed submission from The Bells to The Knight of The Seven Kingdoms. He’s got some terrific moments in that episode. I still feel Dinklage is overall stronger, though. Has anyone seen all the supporting actors? I think I’ve still got a couple to go.

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    Well in all fairness, Cersei Lannister makes Skylar White look like a perfectly healthy individual. Cersei’s had her sympathetic moments, but she’s still an awful person through and through. Anyway, I’m not sure if I’d agree with the notion that Cersei being unlikable would stop her from winning. Plenty of other despicable characters have won Emmys, such as Bobby Cannavale on Boardwalk Empire or Ann Dowd on Handmaid’s Tale.

    Skylar White did nothing wrong. Or maybe being married with her shit husband was her only mistake.

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    Honestly, if I were going on GoT episode submissions only, I think I would chose Coster-Waldau on the changed submission from The Bells to The Knight of The Seven Kingdoms. He’s got some terrific moments in that episode. I still feel Dinklage is overall stronger, though. Has anyone seen all the supporting actors? I think I’ve still got a couple to go.

    Alfie Allen’s performance was the most moving out of the GoT actors with Dinklage in a close second. I actually preferred Nikolaj’s performance in “The Bells”.

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    I think he shows such a range from pride to humility to melancholy in that character in A Knight of The Seven Kingdoms that I really enjoyed. I enjoy Allen as well but it’s such a short performance. Dinklage is still very good. I just prefer Coster-Waldau’s individual episode. I am particularly partial to that episode, though. I thought Cogman’s writing was terrific and that Turner could easily have submitted it as well as Christie and Coster-Waldau.

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    I think he shows such a range from pride to humility to melancholy in that character in A Knight of The Seven Kingdoms that I really enjoyed. I enjoy Allen as well but it’s such a short performance. Dinklage is still very good. I just prefer Coster-Waldau’s individual episode. I am particularly partial to that episode, though. I thought Cogman’s writing was terrific and that Turner could easily have submitted it as well as Christie and Coster-Waldau.

    I couldn’t agree with this more. It was the best-written episode of the season.

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    She has her strong supporters in the acting branch but there doesn’t seem to be overall support ever. I blame her character even though we’ve seen people like Anna Gunn win for supposedly unlikeable characters before. But Gunn was definitely helped by Breaking Bad’s full sweeps which GoT has yet to achieve.

    I’m not sure I’m convinced this would stop Headey from winning. Ann Dowd comes to mind immediately as well.

    Also I’m not sure most of this category are entirely sympathetic. Garner’s Langmore can be sympathetic but ultimately does behave in a morally questionable fashion, and Maisie Williams’ Arya is a cold blooded killer, more or less. Shaw’s character is so ambiguous it’s hard to know how to feel.

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    Because Fiona Shaw (snubbed for the first season), Julia Garner (snubbed for the first season), Maisie Williams (snubbed 6/8 times), Gwendoline Christie (snubbed 7/8 times) and Sophie Turner (snubbed 7/8 times) have more support? I have to laugh.

    this logic is super flawed. Shaw and Garner made it for the second season of their shows and the first season that their shows got it into series and had more than one acting nomination. Game of Thrones never missed series and Dinklage, Clarke, and Rigg had all gotten nominated before Headey finally did in season 4. Going off the Gold Derby odds, Williams wasn’t submitted until season 6, so she was actually snubbed 1/3 times, compared to Headey’s 4/8. Obviously Christie is on the ballot for the first time ever as well, so she’s technically 1/1. I think the only nominee who actually has a worse track record than Headey is Turner, who I assume is 1/3 or 1/4. What does work for Headey is once she started getting nominated she never stopped, but there is literally no other evidence that points to her being some Academy-favorite.I genuinely think if she’s not in second place among the GOT ladies she’s in third behind Christie and Williams.

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    Going off the Gold Derby odds, Williams wasn’t submitted until season 6, so she was actually snubbed 1/3 times, compared to Headey’s 4/8. Obviously Christie is on the ballot for the first time ever as well, so she’s technically 1/1. I think the only nominee who actually has a worse track record than Headey is Turner, who I assume is 1/3 or 1/4. What does work for Headey is once she started getting nominated she never stopped, but there is literally no other evidence that points to her being some Academy-favorite.I genuinely think if she’s not in second place among the GOT ladies she’s in third behind Christie and Williams.

    I have some recollection of at least Williams being submitted earlier than 6 but let’s remember one crucial thing – Williams and Turner were kids for most of the series. With the unusual exception of Millie Bobby Brown last year, it’s highly unusual for anyone that young to even be nominated by the Academy. Hell, I can’t even think of a year where we ever had half the field 25 and under, let alone teenagers. (This category tends to skew older on winners almost always. Heigl is is the only winner under 30 in 40 years. That does work in the favour of Headey – as well as Shaw and Christie)

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    I couldn’t agree with this more. It was the best-written episode of the season.

    Can I talk this scene from A Knight of The Seven Kingdoms? Jaime’s Trial? It’s such a treat. Six Emmy nominees conversing in the one scene – has that EVER happened? Coster-Waldau and the way he states “I won’t apologise”, Dinklage being importantly understated for once, Clarke’s obvious hostility towards Turner (Sansa) and Harington (Jon), Turner being firm but soft, Harington’s distractedness, Christie’s somber face and the way her voice transitions from strong to ever-so-crumbling when she says “you would not be alive”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqFgRt6v23M

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