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    Agreed. It’s a wonderful scene, with six very talented actors. If the rest of season 8 were as good as that moment, we wouldn’t be complaining.

    Skylar White did nothing wrong. Or maybe being married with her shit husband was her only mistake.

    While Skylar is a saint compared to Walt, her hands aren’t clean. She’s much more justified in her actions, but a lot of those actions are extremely morally questionable at best. Yes, a lot of her worst actions can be blamed on her husband, but that doesn’t mean she should be exempt of all responsibility. As I’ve said though, she’s a thousand times better than Walt. Walter White is my favorite television character of all time, and quite possibly my favorite character period. But that doesn’t mean I’m gonna kiss his ass and call him awesome like way too many fans do. It’s always bothered me how so many viewers excuse his behavior just because he’s a cool badass. I once got into a big argument with my brother simply because he heard me say that Walt’s a terrible person.

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    Thatcher, Prime Minister of GoldDerby
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    Can I talk this scene from A Knight of The Seven Kingdoms? Jaime’s Trial? It’s such a treat. Six Emmy nominees conversing in the one scene – has that EVER happened? Coster-Waldau and the way he states “I won’t apologise”, Dinklage being importantly understated for once, Clarke’s obvious hostility towards Turner (Sansa) and Harington (Jon), Turner being firm but soft, Harington’s distractedness, Christie’s somber face and the way her voice transitions from strong to ever-so-crumbling when she says “you would not be alive”

    Darling, that episode was the last time I felt I was watching GOT. Every performance was on point there. I think it’s time for Nikolaj to get a dildo for his performance as Jaime. Emilia Clarke was also so brilliant this season… she deserves the dildo, too.

    LENA HEADEY hasn't got an Emmy for Game of Thrones????? Emmys you need to win her right now!!
    If Lena Headey doesn't win the Emmy, I'm leaving GoldDerby forever.

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    thatnerdgreg
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    I agree that A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms was the last good episode of Game of Thrones. The Long Knight has some great moments, but it didn’t come together as well as it should’ve (I blame the writing, as Sapochnik can do no wrong on Thrones). While I didn’t care for Sansa acting like a dick towards Dany (dear God, they looked so close to being friends) or Arya and Gendry’s really uncomfortable sex scene, the rest of the episode was filled with fantastic character moments. I especially adore Jaime knighting Brienne and Podrick singing Jenny of Oldstones (what a voice!). It’s a damn shame that Bryan Cogman wasn’t submitted. You could tell just how much he loves these characters, and having a writer who feels genuine passion for them helps remind the audience of how much we love them.

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    Kellyemm
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    Darling, that episode was the last time I felt I was watching GOT. Every performance was on point there. I think it’s time for Nikolaj to get a dildo for his performance as Jaime. Emilia Clarke was also so brilliant this season… she deserves the dildo, too.

    I think I might swing from Dinklage to Coster-Waldau, personally, though I still think Dinklage was great.  Nikolaj really was quite wonderful this season, and I really enjoyed the way he played his tragic love triangle-esque type melodramatic arc with both Headey and Christie. I can’t help but think that Christie’s nomination is as much a nomination for her performance as a defacto support vote for Coster-Waldau / his storyline, as well. Almost her entire arc centres around scenes with him or involving him.

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    I agree that A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms was the last good episode of Game of Thrones. The Long Knight has some great moments, but it didn’t come together as well as it should’ve (I blame the writing, as Sapochnik can do no wrong on Thrones). While I didn’t care for Sansa acting like a dick towards Dany (dear God, they looked so close to being friends) or Arya and Gendry’s really uncomfortable sex scene, the rest of the episode was filled with fantastic character moments. I especially adore Jaime knighting Brienne and Podrick singing Jenny of Oldstones (what a voice!). It’s a damn shame that Bryan Cogman wasn’t submitted. You could tell just how much he loves these characters, and having a writer who feels genuine passion for them helps remind the audience of how much we love them.

    I think one of the reasons I’m choosing Christie over Williams is primarily the lack of my capacity to engage in the Gendry/Arya subplot (not the sex scene in particular, the whole thing just didn’t engage me, though I’m not sure why.). I loved her in 3 and 5 but I didn’t see anything new from her – she’s always been action-badass. I’m also well aware that Christie can do that too, which we saw a bit of in episode 3 and plenty of in previous seasons. Christie on the other hand really showed a great deal more range emotionally than she ever has and I bought in to that whole storyline with Coster-Waldau 100%.

    As a Thrones fan, I will forever be happy Cogman wrote this episode. Such a love letter to the characters. One of the few (only?) truly NICE episodes in the history of GoT.

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    I think I might swing from Dinklage to Coster-Waldau, personally, though I still think Dinklage was great. Nikolaj really was quite wonderful this season, and I really enjoyed the way he played his tragic love triangle-esque type melodramatic arc with both Headey and Christie. I can’t help but think that Christie’s nomination is as much a nomination for her performance as a defacto support vote for Coster-Waldau / his storyline, as well. Almost her entire arc centres around scenes with him or involving him.

    I’ll give you points for bravery. My personal MVPs this season were Coster-Waldau and Christie. I think Christie won’t be able to overcome vote splitting and Coster-Waldau won’t be able to overcome Peter Dinklage. The voters are so hopelessly in love with Dinklage that the only thing that could stop him would be another Game of Thrones actor giving a universally better received performance. And as much as I love Coster-Waldau, his performance was around the same level of quality as Dinklage’s. It’s a shame that Jaime Lannister will likely never win an Emmy. I would’ve given him a win for season 3. I thought he was by far the best performance of that season in both male and female categories, and there were no shortage of amazing performances on Game of Thrones that year.

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    I would’ve given him a win for season 3. I thought he was by far the best performance of that season in both male and female categories, and there were no shortage of amazing performances on Game of Thrones that year.

    I personally preferred Emilia Clarke and Michelle Fairley that season but yeah… he was definitely one of the best too!

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    this logic is super flawed. Shaw and Garner made it for the second season of their shows and the first season that their shows got it into series and had more than one acting nomination. Game of Thrones never missed series and Dinklage, Clarke, and Rigg had all gotten nominated before Headey finally did in season 4. Going off the Gold Derby odds, Williams wasn’t submitted until season 6, so she was actually snubbed 1/3 times, compared to Headey’s 4/8. Obviously Christie is on the ballot for the first time ever as well, so she’s technically 1/1. I think the only nominee who actually has a worse track record than Headey is Turner, who I assume is 1/3 or 1/4. What does work for Headey is once she started getting nominated she never stopped, but there is literally no other evidence that points to her being some Academy-favorite.I genuinely think if she’s not in second place among the GOT ladies she’s in third behind Christie and Williams.

    I don’t think his point is she’s an Academy favorite.

    The point is, Lena Headey just one year ago got more votes than her other 5 nominees she’s up against this year. I don’t think Christie was on the ballot last year but the others certainly were. Headey got more votes than them because she was nominated and they weren’t. That is not something to just dismiss. That’s how I knew Yvonne S and Vanessa Kirby would not win Supporting actress. If you can’t get more votes than Chrissy Metz the prior year you are not gonna waltz in and beat Ann Dowd or Thandie Newton. And that’s how Ron Cephas Jones and Samira Wiley probably won as their supporting support the previous year manifested to guest wins.

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    I don’t think his point is she’s an Academy favorite. The point is, Lena Headey just one year ago got more votes than her other 5 nominees she’s up against this year. I don’t think Christie was on the ballot last year but the others certainly were. Headey got more votes than them because she was nominated and they weren’t. That is not something to just dismiss. That’s how I knew Yvonne S and Vanessa Kirby would not win Supporting actress. If you can’t get more votes than Chrissy Metz the prior year you are not gonna waltz in and beat Ann Dowd or Thandie Newton. And that’s how Ron Cephas Jones and Samira Wiley probably won as their supporting support the previous year manifested to guest wins.

    This.

    Lena Headey (as an actress) has the most support from the acting branch and this is just a fact.

    GIVE LENA HEADEY HER EMMY

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    The argument that Headey being the only one of the nominees is certainly interesting. I’ll definitely keep it in mind. However, it’s important to note that this is a different year, and Headey gave a much less popular performance than she did in season 7. That’s not a knock on her acting, it’s just because Cersei had by far her smallest season this year. If she had the material, she would’ve finally won. Now I’m not so sure. What’s especially interesting is that every single nominee has something going against them, which makes this one of the hardest categories to predict.

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    I’ll give you points for bravery. My personal MVPs this season were Coster-Waldau and Christie. I think Christie won’t be able to overcome vote splitting and Coster-Waldau won’t be able to overcome Peter Dinklage. The voters are so hopelessly in love with Dinklage that the only thing that could stop him would be another Game of Thrones actor giving a universally better received performance. And as much as I love Coster-Waldau, his performance was around the same level of quality as Dinklage’s. It’s a shame that Jaime Lannister will likely never win an Emmy. I would’ve given him a win for season 3. I thought he was by far the best performance of that season in both male and female categories, and there were no shortage of amazing performances on Game of Thrones that year.

    Coster-Waldau was sensational in Season 3 – tremendous. That Harrenhall baths scene is still a breathtaking piece of television so many years later. Not just a great piece of GoT, one of the great pieces of television ever.

    Coster-Waldau and Christie elevate each other (they did in Season 3, too) on screen. They are fine actors apart but I’ve always found them completely absorbing together. All of episodes 2 and 4 are absolutely terrific. Even the choreography of the back to back fighting in 3 has to be commended, though I suspect that’s more about directing than anything else.

    Honestly, I suspect Dinklage will win, but I’d love Coster-Waldau too. I’m still beguiled by Best Supporting Actress, but I can see a scenario where Christie wins. She’s so emotionally absorbing from start to the very end. Her face with that damn white book scene. No wonder it got meme’d 100,000 times. The knighting. The wretched crying when Jaime (Coster-Waldau) leaves.

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    Game of Thrones is a series with no shortage of amazingly acted out scenes. But Nikolaj Coster-Waldau’s electric performance during Jaime and Brienne’s bath is possibly the greatest acting that has ever graced this show. There are so many emotions pouring through in that moment, and Coster-Waldau managed to give each and every one of them the necessary gravitas. It was a scene that completely changed the way audiences thought of Jaime Lannister. What’s really sad about his snub this year is that he could’ve won with that episode. That was back when tapes mattered, and I don’t recall anyone else having such an immensely powerful tape as him. Coster-Waldau has never not been fantastic on Game of Thrones, but Jaime’s bath at Harrenhall stands out as the most bewitchingly excellent performance he ever had over all 8 of his seasons on the show.

    Also, I whole heartedly agree that Nikolaj Coster-Waldau and Gwendolyn Christie bring out the best in each other, just like their characters do. They had some of the greatest chemistry on the show, with genuine sparks flying between them in their scenes. I’m not ashamed to admit I’m a full blown Jaime and Brienne shipper. Which is why I was so disgusted when Jaime deserted a woman that he shared a mutual love with in order to die a pointless death with his abusive sister. It really says something about the writing when a pretty big number of fans thought Jaime was secretly planning to kill Cersei just because him deserting an emotionally distraught Brienne to be with Cersei seemed so out of character.

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    Has anyone watched Michael Kelly’s submissions?

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    montana82
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    I nearly died laughing at the end of Robin Wright’s submission that I can’t bring myself to watch anymore of HOC.

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    Has anyone watched Michael Kelly’s submissions?


    Kelly’s submission…well, he really has no chance lol.

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