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  • kancov
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    The second season was far superior, at least for me. Claire Foy is incredible, fingers crossed for her Emmy next year.

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    The show needs to work on how it presents episode-ending on-screen historical notes.  I laughed at a couple of them.  It was a struggle overall to get through the first season and the first three episodes of this one, but the show ended up being pretty compelling.  My favourite was the penultimate episode.  Matt Smith was co-lead in the first three episodes, then basically disappeared until that one, which was mostly flashbacks.  They could push him supporting; his only potential internal competition is Anton Lesser.  It is not like Smith dominates his show like Ray Donovan.  I do not see Claire Foy being surpassed this season.

    Matthew Goode only appears in two episodes before the finale and those are the only two of note for Vanessa Kirby.  They could try to run the guest actor category if they wanted, but given how strategic they were last year, my guess is that they only submit Goode and Michael C. Hall.  They could also submit Jared Harris, John Lithgow and Paul Sparks, who could get nominated the same way that Denis O’Hare did, being a past Emmy nominee in a nothing guest role in a show that the academy likes.  Not seeing the path for Jodi Balfour.  Goode debuts with a solid tape.  It is weird that he was only in three episodes instead of seven.  Maybe there were budgetary constraints and even Kirby did not always appear.  Princess Margaret might have the most-read article on Wikipedia this month.

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    kancov
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    John Lithgow’s cameo was a joke. I think I dislike it more than Margo Martindale drinking coffee in The Americans.

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    forwardswill
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    John Lithgow’s cameo was a joke. I think I dislike it more than Margo Martindale drinking coffee in The Americans.

    It’ll only be a joke if they submit him for Emmy contention. Otherwise it was nice to see him and Jared Harris back even for the briefest of scenes.

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    For me the three strongest episodes we’re right in the middle of 5,6, and 8, with the highlight being Dear Mrs. Kennedy. The second reunion with Jackie and Elizabeth is one of the best acted scenes of the year in my opinion. Jodi Balfour may end up being my personal winner in guest actress. It’d be a shame if Michael C Hall gets name checked to a nom bc he didn’t really do much. Claire foy and Vanessa Kirby were terrific though didn’t like how Victoria Hamilton got sidelined basically the whole season.

    Not sure if I liked this season more than season 1. Was surprised of how much I found myself not missing Churchill’s presence.

    I think that Foy (Marionettes), Kirby (Beryl), and Balfour (Dear Mrs. Kennedy) should absolutely get emmy nominated though only Foy is safe.

    Matt Smith and Matthew Good wouldn’t be the worst nominees in lead and guest but I’m sure there’ll be better performances in both before this Emmy season is over.

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    Riley
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    Will there be six better guest actors though?  It is not the strongest category.  I can scarcely name a year in which all of the actual nominees were more deserving.  He is still young, but it would be nice to see him get some recognition after trucking along in various Oscar/Emmy nominees: Match Point, A Single ManDancing on the EdgeThe Good Wife, The Imitation GameDownton Abbey, Allied, Roots and now this.

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    forwardswill
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    Will there be six better guest actors though? It is not the strongest category. I can scarcely name a year in which all of the actual nominees were more deserving.

    This. Last year the category was so dead I couldn’t even find 3 I was passionate enough about to vote for in the Gold Derby TV awards. This show has given at least 3 this year that I’d consider (Northam, Goode, Jennings and maybe even Heffernan) so it shouldn’t be too difficult for at least one of them to get in at the Emmys if the category remains the wasteland it otherwise was last year.

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    Sam
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    John Lithgow’s cameo was a joke. I think I dislike it more than Margo Martindale drinking coffee in The Americans.

    We all know he is about to get nominated for that cameo.</p>

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    Lord Freddy Blackfyre
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    I’m still mid-way watching this season but is clear to me that The Crown wasn’t as successful as Stranger Thing making a great second season.

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    Denis
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    I think it was just as great.

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    DonnaLyaman
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    It would have been a perfect 10/10 season if it weren’t for The Kennedys episode. The casting missed the mark, the acting was atrocious (Michael C Hall specifically) and their storyline was terrible.

    It was such a left down.

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    Lord Freddy Blackfyre
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    I finished watching the second season…it is still an excellent show but not close to the greatness of the first season…not enough Vanessa Kirby or Victoria Hamilton….The Kennedy episode was ridiculous and unnecessary and terrible written…..One huge improvement was Claire Foy who was perfect in every scene.

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    forwardswill
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    I honestly don’t get the hate for Michael C. Hall as Kennedy. He wasn’t great or Emmy worthy by any means but definitely a passable, interesting version imo. Find it interesting that when the portrayal of Kennedy is of him as nothing but a saint no one bats an eyelid but when its the opposite everyone riots lol

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    Denis
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    C.Hall did very good with what he was given, but his material wasn’t that special.

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    I’m still mid-way watching this season but is clear to me that The Crown wasn’t as successful as Stranger Thing making a great second season.

    Interesting. I have the complete opposite opinion. “Stranger Things 2” was solid, but really struggled to click. I thought “The Crown” soared, especially when it had to continue without John Lithgow. I LOVED his performance in season 1, but never really thought about him in season 2. That’s a huge feat.

    Maybe I was better used to the pacing of the show so I enjoyed season 2 even more. Claire Foy was incredible. Sure, she has a Globe and SAG, but it would be a shame if she doesn’t get an Emmy. Her episode to win with is “Marionettes”. Great range there in a role that requires to be stoic most of the time.

    I’m on the fence about the Margaret episodes. I like Kirby, but I don’t love that the show kind of stops to focus on her for a couple episodes. With especially the first episode focused on her, I didn’t think there was enough material to warrant an hour of television.

    And I didn’t love episode 9 “Prince Phillip: The College Years”, but I think it was partly because I was trying to savour every moment of Claire Foy, so when I turned on episode 9, knowing I had only 2 more episodes of her, it was pretty disappointing that they devoted an hour for that.

    That being said, I think this could win Best Drama Series at the Emmys this year. Stranger Things won’t. “This Is Us” has had its moments, but the second half will really prove if its a real contender to win. Of course, “The Handmaid’s Tale” is unseen at this point.

    I do think Foy is a big contender to win though. We’ll see what Moss does, and of course, Robin Wright is going to have a GREAT narrative in an owed performance.

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