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  • musterd
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    I think it goes to a major theme of the season, that Elizabeth and Phillip are older and more comfortable in their roles as royalty. They aren’t butting heads against the institutions, or each other, nearly as much and are more comfortable openly talking about it. Colman and (especially) Menzies are terrific at embodying this new maturity in contrast to Foy and Smith (who were fantastic, but in very different situations).

    It’s definitely one of the better and more subtle characterisations/ character growth Morgan wrote and kind of rare to see a functioning middle aged marriage that is a true partnership; particularly liked how it was hinted that she arranged for the astronaut visit and the new priest / therapy session and patiently waited for him to emerge from his midlife crisis, and how they were consistently communicating with each other about their worries and offering advice.

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    Stranger Among Us
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    #1203197420

    I have yet to watch the finale, but I think Morgan’s writing has been the weakest aspect this season.

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    Denis
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    I really like Helena Bonham Carter, but Colman just towered over her on that last scene.

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    Stranger Among Us
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    Okay finished the season. Definitely the weakest season of the show thus far in terms of writing. I couldn’t wait for episode 5 and 7 to end. Also, the Queen Mother is like a completely different character this season. I hated how much they swept under the rug with a sentence or two. Olivia Colman, Helena Bonham Carter, Tobias Menzies, Erin Doherty, Josh O’Connor, Geraldine Chaplin, Jane Lapotaire were all fantastic. But due to the inconsistencies in writing, there were times when it felt like they were playing different characters altogether. While Aberfan was a highlight, I thought the Queen being unable to cry storyline was very bad, because we’ve seen the Queen cry during the previous seasons. The Queen Mother was okay with Anne sleeping around but Margaret was a whore for doing so? I don’t even want to get into the writing of Coup, which is easily the worst episode they’ve ever done, despite Olivia Colman’s fantastic performance. I hope Morgan gets it together for Season 4.

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    Mukund
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    #1203198104

    Also, the Queen Mother is like a completely different character this season.

    She has been a very minor presence in the season so far (I’m on E7) and still it feels disconcerting. She comes across as jolly but dull-witted most of the time, which is completely at odds with how she was portrayed in the first two seasons by both Morgan and Victoria Hamilton (a somewhat underappreciated performance).

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    Hinrich689
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    My episode rankings:
    1. Aberfan
    2. Tywysog Cymru
    3. Dangling Man
    4. Bubbikins
    5. Imbroglio
    6. Margaretology
    7. Moondust
    8. Cri de Coeur
    9. Coup
    10. Olding

    I generally liked the season. This is the best ensemble of the show so far and the performances of everyone really shine through. Aberfan is probably the best episode of the series so far. Colman is stunning, especially in Aberfan, but she was underused in the entire season. HBC is fantastic in the last episode, as well as Menzies in Moondust and O’Connor in Tywysog Cymru. Doherty is a scene-stealer. She makes me grin every time she appears.

    The production values also improved a lot, except for the noticeable CGI in some scenes. Adriano Goldman is the MVP this season. His cinematography especially the symmetrical shots are insane.

    I think the writing, new music, and editing are the weakest aspects of the new season. The writing isn’t a disaster — the witty dialogues are still there — but the odd character inconsistencies, numerous historical inaccuracies, and lack of relevance of some topics do weigh down the show. Philip was not THAT obsessed with the moon landing, and the queen was not THAT emotionally cold during the Aberfan visit.

    Olding is quite a flat opener to the season. Good thing Margaretology is better. The writing and editing in Cri de Coeur are messy (SPOILER: Roddy ran outside Margot’s house and disappeared with no trace). If you take out HBC and Colman’s touching performances, the episode is a disappointing finale.

    The new composer did not really compose anything memorable other than “New Queen” and “Philip”. The fact that they had to use Rupert Gregson-Williams’ “Duck Shoot” again in one great montage shows that Martin Phipps is incapable of composing a single powerful piece.

    I might’ve focused on the negatives a bit too much but I really liked the season. I prefer Season 2 because it was subtler and very consistent in terms of writing, but this new season is great too. Though I do think that I prefer the second season of Succession more than this one.

    Oscars FYC:
    1917 - Best Picture, Director, Sound Editing, Visual Effects, Cinematography
    Ford v Ferrari - Best Editing, Sound Mixing
    The Irishman - Best Adapted Screenplay
    Klaus - Best Animated Feature

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    #1203198269

    I really like Helena Bonham Carter, but Colman just towered over her on that last scene.

    I sympathise with HBC because the writing for her Margaret was paper thin by that last scene and very few are better than Colman in doing raw emotional scenes.

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    The portrayals of the Queen Mother and Tony Armstrong-Jones both bothered me a great deal. Victoria Hamilton was a great actress, and ever since “Pride and Joy” I’d been disappointed with how little she got to do. She had dignity and elegance, and although she had her silly moments (“This mac and cheese is heavenly!” comes to mind), it never slipped my mind that she’d been queen for nearly two decades because of the way she carried herself. In season three, she seems totally out of it all the time, and even when the writing sort of reflects her past behavior the performance still makes her seem infantile.

    As for Tony, he lacks all of the charm he had in season two. Ben Daniels was so uninteresting that all of the Goode will towards Tony I’d built up in season two vanished pretty quickly. It’s not entirely his fault, considering that the show seriously mismanaged the relationship between Margaret and Tony this season and hardly gave him and/or Margaret anything else to do, but while performances like Erin Doherty’s make me crave more of Princess Anne, Ben Daniels has made me want even less of Tony than there was in season three.

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    smellycat
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    #1203199825

    Well the same could be said about you. That you’re biased.

    Can everyone just settle down, this is an internet forum about a television show.

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    Couverture
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    Petition to make this the intro to The Crown for the next seasons.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B1UDrfhn36t/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=97978E31-14F3-4ED5-8C51-2611FCAD06CC

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    eric
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    #1203199849

    After watching the final episode, all I want is Helena Bonham Carter to win the Emmy and the Golden Globe

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    #1203200106

    After watching the final episode, all I want is Helena Bonham Carter to win the Emmy and the Golden Globe

    I am still on episode 2 and I already want it lol

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    moviefan617
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    I really liked this season, though I overall preferred season two. I think that is because season two was so uniformly strong whereas season three has some fine episodes that bring down the stunning heights of the season and series to date. Getting through the first two episodes felt like table setting with the new cast, which is fine, but then we get to “Aberfan,” an instant classic that very much felt in line with the show of previous seasons. Overall, I found “Tywysog Cymru” to be the season highlight. Josh O’Connor is marvelous in this role and I’m looking forward to an expanded presence in season four. The performances overall were uniformly strong. Colman, HBC and Menzies made a very solid leading trio. Even with long stretches when they weren’t on screen, they made the most of their stories and especially their focused episodes. I don’t really have an issue with the show sidelining the Queen as many others seem to have. The show was already doing that before, so this isn’t anything new. I felt this season had the unenviable task of introducing the new cast and setting things up for arguably the most well-known period of royal history, so viewers are just clamoring to get on with it. That being said, as someone that really doesn’t have too much British historical knowledge, some of these developments really are quite interesting. I’d never heard of Aberfan, and perhaps in the aftermath of “Chernobyl,” I find these sorts of events quite fascinating to follow. The story of Princess Alice was brand new to me and I found it quite devastating, and made me have an appreciation for Philip I wasn’t expecting. The latter part of the season really made me reconsider everything I’d thought about Charles, both from season two of this show (primarily “Paterfamilias”) and my own knowledge of his personal life. These discoveries are all a testament to strong performances, writing and directing, and the show remains one of the most captivating on television.

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    This season, while not the best, it’s still quite thrilling to watch.

    Olivia and Tobias are the stand out of this season, with Erin,  HBC & Josh following suit.

    I’m on E9 and i’m quite disappointed at how little they have used HBC as Princess Margaret, considering how hilarious and witty she has been the whole season (especially in ”Margaretology”). Her bit in ”Moondust” where she said ”I hope you won’t talk me about children” was hilarious and i wish there were more bits like those.

    Overall, the highlight of the season (so far) for me was Olivia’s last scene in ‘Aberfan’, that’s when Olivia sealed her GG and Emmy win lol.

    Overall, i would rate it 8/10 so far, let’s see if these last two episodes bring it up or down!

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    LaChienne
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    Josh O’Connor is all over my YouTube recommended section because of this season. I couldn’t be happier for him tbh, too many people slept on him after God’s Own Country. Way hotter than the real Charles though.

    Just finished Aberfan. A masterpiece, and I’m not surprised it has the highest IMDB rating of the season at the moment.

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