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  • babypook
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    wish I felt comfortable posting in this thread.

    Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
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    Riley Chow
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    Okay.

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    Reis
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    “Coup” was a lovely episode, specially Colman performance.

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    musterd
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    “Coup” was a lovely episode, specially Colman performance.

    Yes! It’s also an example that if you give her stuff to do she works the hell out of it. Her character comes alive from the banality of her life in the palace when she’s doing something she loves and Colman turns on her charm so easily before her sadness sets in when it has to end. Then her cold fury from the realisation that her fantasy life is well and truly dead was great and capped off with a sweet scene with Philip.

    Also the Mountbatten retirement cake always makes me laugh.

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    Critics’ Choice snubbing Josh O’Connor despite having the best material and performance this season:

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    forwardswill
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    Episode 7 was majestic and Tobias Menzies was glorious. He should win the Globe.

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    Finally finished. Overall, as critical as I have felt at times, this was still an excellent season even if it lacked the consistency of the previous two. Television of the highest quality often still prevailed, especially in “Bubbikins”, “Tywysog Cymru”, “Moondust” and “Cri de Coeur”, but equally this season featured the three weakest episodes of the show ever in “Olding”, “Dangling Man” and “Imbruglio”.

    As for the cast, I naively entered this season believing I could avoid comparisons to the previous iterations. It is impossible to do so. It is also a great shame that I spent much of the season thinking Colman was miscast. I still believe so. However, what wasn’t clear until the whole season could be considered as one was that her proficiencies as an actress could make her shine even without suitability. She could never be Claire Foy and it took me a season to realise it. But being able to carry a show of this quality is still a huge achievement and the fact that Colman couldn’t do it to quite the level of an all time great performance from Foy shouldn’t be held against her. Fittingly also, “Cri de Coeur” is undoubtedly the most suited and comfortable she appeared in the role so perhaps season four will be when her interpretation truly begins to flourish.

    The rest of the ensemble do fair a lot better. I was initially nervous about Bonham Carter when the season started but, despite being frequently absent, the finale was her moment and my god did she take it. I still prefer Streep and Dern but I won’t be losing any sleep if she becomes her category’s favourite. O’Connor was also truly excellent in his debut and looks promising for the future material he has to chew. It is a shame his Camilla storyline is one area I believe the show to have dropped the ball. Other notables include the delightful Erin Doherty, ever consistent Jason Watkins and the should-be-Emmy-winning Jane Lapotaire.

    The true standout is Menzies. He mesmerises even in the smallest of scenes and makes poor Matt Smith pale in comparison. “Moondust” is the crowning achievement in performance of the entire season.

    My favourite show is no longer my favourite show but that’s okay. It’s still bloody good.

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    I think my favorite episodes were Bubbikins and Coup.

    That is the truth.

    No exceptions.

    A Rival To Thatcher’s Reign.

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    musterd
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    This season was weak tbh, it won’t do great at the Emmys. HFPA just name-checked it, I expect the TV Academy to be less enthusiastic about it, like it will get major noms, but won’t win any. Olivia Colman is already losing the GG to Jodie Comer.

    HFPA didn’t need to namecheck it for Lead Actor given that there are other options. I think the trio of Olivia, Tobias and Helena seems stable for noms (with Tobias a surprise threat to win).

    It will be fine at the Emmys especially if it ends up being Netflix’s main drama horse if Stranger Things’ awards underperformance continues. Also there seems to be a sense that everybody is just waiting for season 4 for Diana and Thatcher and this past season was for adjustment to a new cast which they more or less pulled off.

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    I have not finished this season and while I have still found Colman enjoyable and emmy-worthy if not undeniable, I knew there was something left to be desired. I haven’t watched the Foy seasons in over a year and I wondered if I was overhyping it in my head, so I went back to check. Just as a reminder.

    The issue lies less with Colman herself, and more in the fact that Foy gave the performance of the decade.

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    I have not finished this season and while I have still found Colman enjoyable and emmy-worthy if not undeniable, I knew there was something left to be desired. I haven’t watched the Foy seasons in over a year and I wondered if I was overhyping it in my head, so I went back to check. Just as a reminder.

    The issue lies less with Colman herself, and more in the fact that Foy gave the performance of the decade.

    Aside from Foy’s excellence, she also has a discernible arc to play of the character being involuntarily thrust into spotlight, the tension that causes in her marriage and sibling relationship, and finally her coming into her own as a figurehead.

    Colman has a tricky challenge of playing a character who is settled in her role and marriage and essentially any stakes come from other family members not toeing (an increasingly esoteric) line and a rotating door of PMs that really doesn’t affect her since she basically has no power. I still can’t tell if Peter Morgan has an arc in mind for the middle aged version of QEII other than she is slowly forced to deal with public perception with a more critical press which really only comes to a head when Diana arrives.

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    HFPA just name-checked it

    Enough with this mindless statement. If the HFPA has proved something over and over again is that they DO NOT care to snub anything in TV, they never “name-check”, if they do not care for you, they ignore you, they just humiliated the two bigger players in the last decade at the Emmys – Veep and GoT – precisely because of that, they do what they please, this is how I correctly predicted this decision of them (with the exception of the Harrington part, which is inexplicable, and not, it is not because there are no other options).

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    I was laughed at and dismissed for suggesting that Colman might not live up to Foy and yet here we are. No one is infallible.

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    I’m a bit late to watching Season 3 and I’m only a few episodes in, but I’d love to see Jane Lapotaire get a Guest Actress nomination for her portrayal of Princess Alice.

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    Three episodes left and this is probably my favourite season of the show (although I should rewatch the others before make such statements).

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