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    Critics’ Choice snubbing Josh O’Connor despite having the best material and performance this season:

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    Episode 7 was majestic and Tobias Menzies was glorious. He should win the Globe.

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    Finally finished. Overall, as critical as I have felt at times, this was still an excellent season even if it lacked the consistency of the previous two. Television of the highest quality often still prevailed, especially in “Bubbikins”, “Tywysog Cymru”, “Moondust” and “Cri de Coeur”, but equally this season featured the three weakest episodes of the show ever in “Olding”, “Dangling Man” and “Imbruglio”.

    As for the cast, I naively entered this season believing I could avoid comparisons to the previous iterations. It is impossible to do so. It is also a great shame that I spent much of the season thinking Colman was miscast. I still believe so. However, what wasn’t clear until the whole season could be considered as one was that her proficiencies as an actress could make her shine even without suitability. She could never be Claire Foy and it took me a season to realise it. But being able to carry a show of this quality is still a huge achievement and the fact that Colman couldn’t do it to quite the level of an all time great performance from Foy shouldn’t be held against her. Fittingly also, “Cri de Coeur” is undoubtedly the most suited and comfortable she appeared in the role so perhaps season four will be when her interpretation truly begins to flourish.

    The rest of the ensemble do fair a lot better. I was initially nervous about Bonham Carter when the season started but, despite being frequently absent, the finale was her moment and my god did she take it. I still prefer Streep and Dern but I won’t be losing any sleep if she becomes her category’s favourite. O’Connor was also truly excellent in his debut and looks promising for the future material he has to chew. It is a shame his Camilla storyline is one area I believe the show to have dropped the ball. Other notables include the delightful Erin Doherty, ever consistent Jason Watkins and the should-be-Emmy-winning Jane Lapotaire.

    The true standout is Menzies. He mesmerises even in the smallest of scenes and makes poor Matt Smith pale in comparison. “Moondust” is the crowning achievement in performance of the entire season.

    My favourite show is no longer my favourite show but that’s okay. It’s still bloody good.

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    I think my favorite episodes were Bubbikins and Coup.

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    This season was weak tbh, it won’t do great at the Emmys. HFPA just name-checked it, I expect the TV Academy to be less enthusiastic about it, like it will get major noms, but won’t win any. Olivia Colman is already losing the GG to Jodie Comer.

    HFPA didn’t need to namecheck it for Lead Actor given that there are other options. I think the trio of Olivia, Tobias and Helena seems stable for noms (with Tobias a surprise threat to win).

    It will be fine at the Emmys especially if it ends up being Netflix’s main drama horse if Stranger Things’ awards underperformance continues. Also there seems to be a sense that everybody is just waiting for season 4 for Diana and Thatcher and this past season was for adjustment to a new cast which they more or less pulled off.

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    I have not finished this season and while I have still found Colman enjoyable and emmy-worthy if not undeniable, I knew there was something left to be desired. I haven’t watched the Foy seasons in over a year and I wondered if I was overhyping it in my head, so I went back to check. Just as a reminder.

    The issue lies less with Colman herself, and more in the fact that Foy gave the performance of the decade.

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    I have not finished this season and while I have still found Colman enjoyable and emmy-worthy if not undeniable, I knew there was something left to be desired. I haven’t watched the Foy seasons in over a year and I wondered if I was overhyping it in my head, so I went back to check. Just as a reminder.

    The issue lies less with Colman herself, and more in the fact that Foy gave the performance of the decade.

    Aside from Foy’s excellence, she also has a discernible arc to play of the character being involuntarily thrust into spotlight, the tension that causes in her marriage and sibling relationship, and finally her coming into her own as a figurehead.

    Colman has a tricky challenge of playing a character who is settled in her role and marriage and essentially any stakes come from other family members not toeing (an increasingly esoteric) line and a rotating door of PMs that really doesn’t affect her since she basically has no power. I still can’t tell if Peter Morgan has an arc in mind for the middle aged version of QEII other than she is slowly forced to deal with public perception with a more critical press which really only comes to a head when Diana arrives.

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    HFPA just name-checked it

    Enough with this mindless statement. If the HFPA has proved something over and over again is that they DO NOT care to snub anything in TV, they never “name-check”, if they do not care for you, they ignore you, they just humiliated the two bigger players in the last decade at the Emmys – Veep and GoT – precisely because of that, they do what they please, this is how I correctly predicted this decision of them (with the exception of the Harrington part, which is inexplicable, and not, it is not because there are no other options).

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    I was laughed at and dismissed for suggesting that Colman might not live up to Foy and yet here we are. No one is infallible.

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    I’m a bit late to watching Season 3 and I’m only a few episodes in, but I’d love to see Jane Lapotaire get a Guest Actress nomination for her portrayal of Princess Alice.

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    Three episodes left and this is probably my favourite season of the show (although I should rewatch the others before make such statements).

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    Finished it today.
    Overall a good season that I would have nominate in many category, even if it didn’t achieve the season 2 highs.
    Olivia Colman still felt like a lead even if few episosed were about her. She deserves a nomination but I wouldn’t reward her this year…I think the best has yet to come.
    Menzies did a better work than Smith and he really shined in episode 7 but I’m not sure he deserves a lead actor nomination.
    Bohman Carter was wonderful in episode 10 but again, not memorable as Vanessa Kirby in her episodes.
    Josh O’Connor and Jane Lapotaire would be for sure on my guest actor and actress list, with the former a strong contender.
    I’ve seen anyway stronger contenders this year for drama series, like Watchmen, Succession, Mr. Robot and This Is Us.

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    Finally finished the show, and I confirm what I said before; that this was my favourite season. As this was not the most popular opinion here, I thought it’d be interesting to share a very short and personal impression; apologies in advance if everything I write here was already expressed by someone else.

    What I really, really liked about this season was less about the incredible cast (which I preferred to the previous one) and more about how conceptually coherent the whole thing was, from start to finish.
    The issue of representation and the contrast between external appearance and inner reality, something which was definitely already present in the previous seasons, was elevated to an actual theme; more precisely: it was thematized as thecentral core of the show.
    I thought the move was clever and brilliant. From merely watching a certain story unfolding (and carrying some recurrent element and issues within it, of course, but that was only secondary) I ended up with the impression that I was looking, episode after episode, at the exact same theme – but every time, expressed in a new, fresh and often thoughtful way.

    Like a prism, every episode was a new face of it. After ep 1, which was necessary to show the theme, we see someone (Margaret) who manages to show her inner self and still be useful to the crown and who is punished for that by someone (the Queen) who cannot do the same; in Aberfan, well, the contrast is too evident to need any explaination; in what was my favourite episode, Bubbikins, the only person who manages to look good to the press is the one who isn’t even aware of the contrast and for that specific reason end up resembling a stranger in the palace – a saint.

    I could go on like that, perhaps in a less superficial way, for almost each episode of the season. I’ve rarely seen something equally coherent on tv and that felt challenging and insightful in a very powerful way.

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    Finished the season last week. I haven’t seen the first two seasons; I checked it out because of Olivia Colman. I found not knowing a ton about the royal family was not a hindrance, as the scripts managed to fill in enough of the gaps for me.

    Colman wasn’t as prominent as I’d hoped, but she was gangbusters in “Aberfan”, which was an outstanding episode and should receive a writing nod. Menzies killed in “Moondust” and HBC was absolutely brilliant in “Cri de Coeur”. She was really only featured in that and “Margaretology”, but both were superb and if she won Supporting Actress based on “Cri de Coeur”, I would not kick anything.

    Overall, liked the show though there are an awful lot of ponderous shots of people starting into space or walking across huge rooms. “Coup” was dull and played like a history text, but most other episodes had lively parts. I also particularly liked Erin Doherty as Princess Anne; she added a tangy bite of vinegar to all her scenes. Josh O’Connor was appealing (if too handsome) as Charles and I look forward to the inevitable Diana episodes. (His scene with Colman when she told him no one wants to hear his “voice” was priceless.) Jason Watkins also provided invaluable, rock-solid support as Harold Wilson.

    Now bring on La Gillian as Margaret Thatcher!

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    Josh O’Connor still remains the MVP of the third season. HBC and Menzies were both great as well. Doherty as Anne was severely underused and Colman was overrated, but she also didn’t have a whole lot to do.

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