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  • musterd
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    Are we sure Josh Connor is not co-leading with Olivia Colman? He’s all over the trailer and he’s also in official poster with Olivia. It’s also natural that he’s talking a spot that was reserved for anyone playing prince philip, since the crown is about to cover a period in which the charles-camilla-diana triangle was the actual protagonist irl.

    I feel like people are betting on the wrong horse when it comes to predicting tobias menzies’ for best actor. Josh Connor, much like claire when the crown first came out, is unkown to audiences outside the UK, but he’s pretty great.

    Think O’Connor is Supporting based on comments that said he features more in the back half of the season.

    Also seeing more standout raves for Menzies in recent reviews. It could be the case where they simply push both in Supporting although it wouldn’t make sense because I’m seeing universal praise for Jason Watkins as Harold Wilson (who also feels like a classic BAFTA winner).

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    So this is now at a  84 on MC. Now that it matters, but that’s below S2. I thought that of all people the critics would go wild for this given the build-up, the anticipation, the talent involved etc. They usually give shows ridiculously high scores for e.g. second seasons when they don’t necessarily deserve them. Don’t get me wrong, an 84 is incredible, but I’m wondering if the third season (outside the critics) is being a tad bit overhyped by everyone.

    Oscar FYC - Lupita Nyong'o & Elisabeth Moss ("Us") - Best Actress & Supporting Actress. It must happen; otherwise the Tethered are coming.

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    So this is now at a 84 on MC. Now that it matters, but that’s below S2. I thought that of all people the critics would go wild for this given the build-up, the anticipation, the talent involved etc. They usually give shows ridiculously high scores for e.g. second seasons when they don’t necessarily deserve them. Don’t get me wrong, an 84 is incredible, but I’m wondering if the third season (outside the critics) is being a tad bit overhyped by everyone.

    Yet it’s higher than both the first two seasons on RT. Seems like the anticipation has meant that fewer critics are inclined to say they dislike the show but the changes have also removed some of the passion that got season 2’s metascore so high.

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    So this is now at a 84 on MC. Now that it matters, but that’s below S2. I thought that of all people the critics would go wild for this given the build-up, the anticipation, the talent involved etc. They usually give shows ridiculously high scores for e.g. second seasons when they don’t necessarily deserve them. Don’t get me wrong, an 84 is incredible, but I’m wondering if the third season (outside the critics) is being a tad bit overhyped by everyone.

    There’s just a 3 point difference with S2 at 87 with a third of the reviews yet to be counted for s3 eg the glowing review in NYT.

    May want to wait till this is released to gauge public reaction. Would be interesting to see how the real life Royal stuff/mess would play into the reactions; eg taped interview with Andrew regarding Epstein to be released on BBC this Saturday.

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    So this is now at a 84 on MC. Now that it matters, but that’s below S2. I thought that of all people the critics would go wild for this given the build-up, the anticipation, the talent involved etc. They usually give shows ridiculously high scores for e.g. second seasons when they don’t necessarily deserve them. Don’t get me wrong, an 84 is incredible, but I’m wondering if the third season (outside the critics) is being a tad bit overhyped by everyone.

    I don’t think it is THAT disliked to lose winning chances. Succession and the other contenders has more obstacles to overcome than The Crown.

    Oscars FYC:
    Ford v Ferrari - Picture, Actor, Editing, Cinematography, Sound
    The Farewell - Picture, Actress, Supporting Actress
    A Hidden Life - Cinematography

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    Think O’Connor is Supporting based on comments that said he features more in the back half of the season. Also seeing more standout raves for Menzies in recent reviews. It could be the case where they simply push both in Supporting although it wouldn’t make sense because I’m seeing universal praise for Jason Watkins as Harold Wilson (who also feels like a classic BAFTA winner).

    Are we seeing around 4 Supporting Actor nominees for the series, a la GOT?

    Josh O’Connor has the advantage of being the relative unknown young performer taking the big role. Would he be eligible for Lead Actor if he’ll only appear in the second half of the season?

    Would Tobias Menzies have better chances of being in Supporting instead of Lead?

    There’s a big chance the BAFTAs will put either or both Ben Daniels and Jason Watkins in Supporting Actor category. Jason has won the TV BAFTA recently, while Ben is an accomplished stage actor who is halfway to EGOT (he was nominated for Tony and Grammy), so an Emmy is a great addition, then he can work to get an Oscar nom.

    They could also go for Supporting Actor or Guest Actor, though both of their roles take up most of the era covered in the show. Regarding Ben’s role as Tony Armstrong-Jones/Snowdon, his predecessor, Matthew Goode was nominated for Guest Actor since he only appeared in 3 episodes, while chances are that Ben will appear in more episodes than Josh and his role is also major subplot of the series. Plus it’s an upgrade in category for the same role.

    Does someone have an idea on the rules regarding Guest Performer and Supporting Performer categories? How many episodes are needed to be classified for Supporting?

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    FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION

    Emmys 2020
    Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series - Ben Daniels, The Crown

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    Lance
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    I think that an 84 on Metacritic is still pretty damn good. Critics are going to overhype it and be a tad bit disappointed, but that is typical for them.

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    Maggie Smith won for nothing. La Streep was sensational in at least two episodes of BLL. She’ll win the fucking Emmy.

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    Maggie Smith won for nothing. La Streep was sensational in at least two episodes of BLL. She’ll win the fucking Emmy.

    Not with Laura Dern standing in her way.

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    Maggie Smith won for nothing. La Streep was sensational in at least two episodes of BLL. She’ll win the fucking Emmy.

    Smith is gave 10 times better performance in every episode of DA than Streep gave in BLL.

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    https://youtu.be/0iJzuTL7NAI

    16 minutes of Olivia and Helena chatting…it’s heaven.

    They really should push them to do the US morning shows together.

    Core cast is also in LA tonight for US premiere and it’s a SAG screening.

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    Catching up on The Crown

    https://rebeccastarrbrown.com/2019/11/16/catching-up-on-the-crown/

    Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
    Philip K Dick Blade Runner

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    Lance
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    I just caught up for Season 3, and I can’t wait!!! I hope it is great!!!

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    Guess who got excited on Sunday morning to watch the 1st ep with breakfast on netflix and then found out netflix says s3 out this sunday(U.S time). LOL!

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    Credit Order (Ep 1)

     

    Olivia Colman

    Tobias Menzies

    Helena Bonham Carter

    Ben Daniels

    Jason Watkins

    Marion Bailey

    John Lithgow

    FYC Golden Globes- Fleabag, The Crown, Olivia Colman, Jennifer Aniston

    FYC Oscars- Maggie Smith, Charlize Theron, Brad Pitt, Adam Driver

    FYC Emmys- Schitts Creek, The Crown, Years and Years

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