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  • smellycat
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    Well knock me over with a feather if Moondust isn’t one of the most moving episodes of television I’ve ever seen.

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    Eden
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    I’m kind of underwhelmed by the acting. Colman is doing her usual Colman, and sorry to write that, but Foy was such a beautiful presence in this. HBC is absolutely underused, as somebody else pointed out.

    Sadly, I agree. But it’s also promising for next season.

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    Mukund
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    I’ve finished the first five episodes and Aberfan is indeed an exceptional piece of television. Hauntingly engrossing and awfully tearful. The final sequence remains Colman’s finest moment on the show so far. She has managed to align herself with Foy’s Elizabeth for the most part and still give a natural, personal performance with successful results. Foy’s presence is still felt and missed though. Colman does have a very expressive face so sometimes her impassive looks can be so not impassive.

    I was less impressed with Olding and Margaretology. The former was a strange choice for a premiere as it felt very random in context of the themes/plots this season will deal with, unlike the previous season openers. Slightly aimless as well.

    Margaretology was better but I was disappointed to see it tackle the same basic theme the show had already touched upon in S1 with Pride and Joy. Helena Bonham Carter is deliciously good but I can’t help feel the differences in her interpretation compared to that of Kirby’s. Both versions just don’t coalesce very well in my mind.  I’ve decided to try to ignore this for a better enjoyment of the show and of Bonham Carter’s performance. She does have strong chemistry with Ben Daniels (brilliant as well).

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    “Aberfan” is a very good episode of television and I imagine it will be the show’s submission for writing. Don’t quite get the clamouring for it as a knockout episode for Colman. The final scene is dynamite of course (and very fitting in establishing her interpretation further) but she seldom appears in the first half. I do think it’s interesting that they felt the need for Elizabeth to cry moments after she confesses her inability. To me it marks the difference between Foy and Colman. The former was so poised that any flicker of expression felt like a flood of tears whilst Colman is so naturally expressive (and, frankly, sad looking) in her neutral face that something more was needed.

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    smellycat
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    Just finished season 3, it was excellent. Beautifully shot, well written, superbly acted especially by Tobias Menzies and Josh Connor. I think we’re just used to so much excellence from HBC and Olivia Colman it’s hard to see when they shine. And gosh wasn’t the Queen Mummy a hoot.

    My only grievance is that they ignored the entire subject of decolonization and the fall of the British Empire, only to briefly mention it in the final minutes. How on earth they could ignore that topic in favour of an hour of moon landing (as great as that episode was, it had so little bearing on The Crown). In the twentieth century under QEII, Britain lost control of a huge number of Commonwealth countries, many of which remain deeply impoverished and conflict-affected with no apology or remorse from the Crown. A real shame to have wasted that opportunity.

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    I am really unhappy with the change in composers. It has resulted in a largely abysmal score this season. Not only is it jarringly different from the previous ones, but also incongruous with the scenes it’s used for. Almost all of Martin Phipps’ compositions are indistinctive and unmemorable.

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    The cinematography this season has been absolutely incredible, and I will be stunned if The Crown doesn’t snatch the Emmy again. In general it always looks gorgeous, but “Aberfan” is a series high. The sequence where Harold Wilson visits the village and the entire community goes silent was perfectly shot.

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    Just finished season 3, it was excellent. Beautifully shot, well written, superbly acted especially by Tobias Menzies and Josh Connor. I think we’re just used to so much excellence from HBC and Olivia Colman it’s hard to see when they shine. And gosh wasn’t the Queen Mummy a hoot.

    My only grievance is that they ignored the entire subject of decolonization and the fall of the British Empire, only to briefly mention it in the final minutes. How on earth they could ignore that topic in favour of an hour of moon landing (as great as that episode was, it had so little bearing on The Crown). In the twentieth century under QEII, Britain lost control of a huge number of Commonwealth countries, many of which remain deeply impoverished and conflict-affected with no apology or remorse from the Crown. A real shame to have wasted that opportunity.

    That would require this show to be explicitly political, and it’s too reserved (if not bland) for that.

    This was yet another good season but hardly innovative enough for the praise it’s getting on this forum. Having said that I support acting nominations across the board. The cinematography is incredible and underappreciated.

    For Your Consideration:

    Best International Feature: Instinct (The Netherlands)
    Best Actress: Carice van Houten (Instinct)

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    Not sure if this is an unpopular opinion, but Fennell is miscast in the role of Camilla. She and Charles are supposed to be one year apart, but she looks much older compared to him. The age difference between the actors isn’t that big, but O’Connor looks like a teenager in the show.

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    I wouldn’t have thought they’d focus on politics but the sadness at losing eg beloved India and the shame at their decline in power and global standing.

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    Josh O’Connor needs to be a serious awards contender, he leads one of the best episodes of the season. The deficit of Helena Bonham Carter is criminal, but major props to Erin Doherty for taking on the mantle of MVP bad bitch around Buckingham Palace.

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    I am really unhappy with the change in composers. It has resulted in a largely abysmal score this season. Not only is it jarringly different from the previous ones, but also incongruous with the scenes it’s used for. Almost all of Martin Phipps’ compositions are indistinctive and unmemorable.

    Finally, someone said it. I was so disappointed that Rupert Gregson-Williams and Lorne Balfe weren’t returning this season. I wouldn’t say Martin Phipps’ score is bad, but they are very unmemorable, almost weird sometimes. There wasn’t a single new piece that was as distinct as Gregson-Williams’ Duck Shoot, Your Majesty, and Future King. I am glad that they used the main theme in the last scenes of Episode 6 tho.

    Oscars FYC:
    Ford v Ferrari - Picture, Actor, Editing, Cinematography, Sound
    The Farewell - Picture, Actress, Supporting Actress
    A Hidden Life - Cinematography

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    I have to say Erin Doherty has been a great addition. She has been great and stood out with the little that they have given her. I hope for next season they realize how Great  she has been and give her more to do. She usually stands out in her scenes.

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    It is really funny how attacked I was when I said that I have read that HBC is seen as miscast and as underused, even after I proved it with links, people here were obsessed with their idea of her giving the performance of the decade.

    And… now, everyone is saying the same things, even Erin Doherty with her minimal role is receiving more praise than HBC everywhere!

    It was unpopular at the time, but I never liked HBC as a choice, it might sound shallow and superficial, but Vanessa Kirby is a 1000 times more beautiful, classy and charismatic, she is 15 centimeters taller to begin with. HBC is very far from the world of The Crown and it shows.

    Olivia Colman is one of my favorite performers ever, The Favorite and her performance in it is one of my top 5 favorite things in the last decade, but I agree with the majority, she does not have the stylish coldness of Foy. Foy, like Moss, Russell and Maslany, is capable to control her entire face, they can show a 100 things with a glance. Colman cannot control herself that much, she is too expressive, the fact that she looks so much older than she actually is does not help either.

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    even Erin Doherty with her minimal role is receiving more praise than HBC everywhere!

    Not in the reviews.

    she is 15 centimeters taller to begin with

    Which was incorrect for the part. Margret was 155cm tall. HBC is 157cm tall. Let’s not pretend she isn’t at least the right kind of height compared to Kirby.

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