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    Victor
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    Honestly, not by much. I think it’ll settle in that range in the end. But is it just me or TV critics in general seem to be much harsher in their ratings this year, at least compared to their film counterparts?

    TV Critics for sure are harder to please this year, if you get a 70+ you should be jumping, an 80+ is almost surreal these days, i only remember post-emmys 2020 eligibility The Good Lord Bird, PEN15, I May Destroy You, BabySitters Club and for now, The Crown.

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    Worth mentioning though that it has 96% on Rotten Tomatoes for season 4 which is the highest any season of the show has ever had.

    FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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    TV Critics for sure are harder to please this year, if you get a 70+ you should be jumping, an 80+ is almost surreal these days, i only remember post-emmys 2020 eligibility The Good Lord Bird, PEN15, I May Destroy You, BabySitters Club and for now, The Crown.

    I wonder if they’re kinda course correcting because the last two years has seen so many series receive over the moon raves (Fleabag, Watchmen, Succession, I May Destroy You) that maybe they’re trying to not seem so hyperbolic in their praise moving forward. But that being said, all those shows easily deserved their rapturous praise so maybe there isn’t a narrative at all. RE: Ted Lasso, I love that show so far and find it hysterical and heartwarming, but it’s also fairly generic and simple in its storytelling, so I don’t think a 71 is unwarranted at all, but then when you compare that 71 to the politician’s 66 for season 1, then it does for sure get foggy.

    Still, an 83 for this feels fair, considering it seems to be really good if not great, but not undeniably above s2, and in Riley’s opinion not quite an all timer.

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    Not like anyone cares about the crafts categories apart from a few of us on here but the music supervision is getting a lot of acclaim in the reviews especially with how character oriented it’s meant to be when it comes to Diana. I think the show is probably getting a nomination for that this time round.

    On the music side I don’t see any competition, maybe if Euphoria hits the jackpot again.

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    I forgot The Mandalorian existed, God this show only exist to make me sad

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    I keep forgetting this will come out on Sunday.

    It’s much easier for movies to get higher scores.

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    Mess, I thought Foy could contend in guest

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    If supporting is the way to get a Menzies nod, then I’m here for it.

    Claire Foy will appear super briefly no? Like seconds, i don’t think she’s elegible.

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    Give Nina Gold that casting Emmy!

    FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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    Why are we treating reviews as proof of an Olivia Colman resurgence when she was acclaimed in the same for season three making her seem unbeatable until we all watched…

    Because quite a number of reviews that mention they didn’t think she was settled in s3 or was largely sidelined, say she’s terrific in s4 because she’s finally given something to do / ‘foes’ to come up against ie Thatcher and Di. Also seeing the Fagan episode highlighted as the best of the season (along with Di’s intro ep) because of the Fagan and the Queen’s scenes.

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    Still, an 83 for this feels fair, considering it seems to be really good if not great, but not undeniably above s2, and in Riley’s opinion not quite an all timer.

    Down to an 82 now. It’s almost unanimously agreed to be better than the previous season and the general sentiment is that it might be their best season yet, which isn’t reflected on MC in the end honestly. Shows generally get an easier pass after they have established themselves with critics so it’s all the more surprising. Maybe it’s just how Metacritic is rating reviews.

    Anyway, all this doesn’t mean much in the end for the show I guess

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    I know Princess Margaret never had the biggest role in the monarchy, but it’s still disappointing they cast a well-known actress like Helena Bonham Carter and, according to several reviews, didn’t really utilize her.

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    This is not going to provide too much insight since I have only seen the first ep, but:

    – What I realized instantaneously was the pace. It’s 10 times faster than in any episode last season, which is good or bad depending on who you ask (I thought it was great).

    – Anderson’s entry wasn’t as grand as I thought it would be, and one is definitely going to have to get used to this portrayal. But Thatcher herself was, as Riley said, larger than life, which is going to make a portrayal of her exactly that.

    – Olivia Colman feels way more comfortable in this role — you realize it immediately. But a lot of the Queen’s restraint does not shine through like it did with Foy in seasons 1 and 2.

    This is obviously minimal insight, and Riley has the best since he’s already seen all of it, but the season is off to a good start.

    A Fervent Believer in the Church of Viola Davis

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    Apparently this season will do very well award wise, looking forward to watch it.

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    I know Princess Margaret never had the biggest role in the monarchy, but it’s still disappointing they cast a well-known actress like Helena Bonham Carter and, according to several reviews, didn’t really utilize her.

    she’s not a good Margaret, so I’m ok with this.

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