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    she’s not a good Margaret, so I’m ok with this.

    She’s a fantastic Margaret. Obviously filling the shoes after Kirby wasn’t going to be an easy task, but Helena did the best she could and nailed it. And she actually looks and acts more like the real Margaret than Vanessa. Even some royal family members and close friends of Margaret said they vastly prefered Helena over Kirby.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_7LoL0CYOA

    They just released this clip of Olivia and Emma doing a interview together for netflix omg. I was already in love with Olivia and her personality but i feel like Emma is already becoming my favourite. After this season i just know i’m gonna be a massive fan of hers. This is getting me so excited for Sunday ahhhhhhh!

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    I know I’m in the minority but I actually prefer Helena Bonaham Carter as Margaret than Vanessa Kirby. It seems like a better fit of a role for Carter and shes been nothing but phenomenal so far.

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    The amount of talk shows Gillian Anderson is appearing on to promote both The Crown and Sex Ed. Can my hype for season 4 grow even more?

    Can it be Sunday already?

    FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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    The amount of talk shows Gillian Anderson is appearing on to promote both The Crown and Sex Ed. Can my hype for season 4 grow even more? Can it be Sunday already?

    Did you watch her on Kimmel last night? It was delightful. The new clip of Thatcher they showed was great too. Really looking forward to seeing her and Olivia on Live with Stephen Colbert tonight as well (or tomorrow, as the case will be for me).

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    This is totally irrelevant, but I can’t be the only one who thinks Cynthia Nixon would be a perfect Thatcher — appearance-wise, that is. The similarities are there IMO.

    A Fervent Believer in the Church of Viola Davis

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    I’m very intrigued as to which one of them wins the Emmy. I’m leaning towards Riley’s opinion that it’s Corrin or a vote-split but Anderson has such a big narrative (bigger than Cox and Oh) and quite a lot of hype (bigger than Lithgow) that I’m wondering if it might be a “whichever gets the most votes” situation or if they vote-split. I mean in almost every interview I’ve seen with Anderson the interviewer has said they’re giving her the Emmy and a lot of the reviews that have praised her have said she’s winning. Then she also could get the boost from Sex Education season 3 in the Spring.

    Yes, I’m intrigued too. But I think it’s way too early to call it. So much can happen between now and then. Performances need time to settle in voter’s minds and there’s so much more to who wins than simply the best performance being triumphant.

    For me personally, I’m not massively attached to the Diana arc. I feel Diana’d out, if I’m honest. She seems to be everywhere at the moment in the British press. Not only for TC4 but the ITV doc that’s just aired this week on the BBC/Martin Bashir interview scandal . I also vividly remember being dragged to her funeral with my mum when I was 10 and everything that came with that time. Sounds silly but yeah, that’s where I’m at with that lol. I have a feeling that I’m more likely to fall into the Collider and CNN review camp and find it all a bit “people magazine-ish” and “melodramatic.”

    But that’s totally on me and no reflection on Emma’s performance. I still think she looks wonderful in the role and seems to have captured the essence of a young Diana, but I’m not hugely on the Diana hype train.

    I guess the reason why I bring this up, is that I think people’s responses to season 4 are going to be based on the personal way more than earlier seasons. We’re moving into a time period that is much closer to modern day and people are starting to associate real memories with the plot lines.

    All in all though, I’m absolutely buzzing to watch. Especially now we’re back in lockdown in the UK. Looking forward to escaping to the problems of the 80s rather than 2020, even if only for 10 hours.
     

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    Agreed and like I said it’s also interesting how Anderson could have Sex Ed as well. It reminds me of Ann Dowd having both The Leftovers and The Handmaid’s Tale.

    Yes. At this moment in time based on absolutely nothing because Sex Ed 3 hasn’t even completed filming, and I’ve obviously not watched her as Thatcher, I feel like Sex Ed coming out in Spring or Summer is more likely to benefit her with votes for Thatcher, rather than see her win a Best Supporting in Comedy.

    I’m only saying that because (and Gillian says this herself), Jean is not a stretch for her, as there are many elements of that character that are like her in real life lol. And I feel like by the time September rolls around there are likely to be much stronger comedy performances in that category. Whereas, and again this is only based on the handful of clips I’ve seen and the reviews that I’ve read, Margaret Thatcher is a full body, voice, personality and values, transformation. And Gillian is an actress that does this time and time again with her roles. Scully, Jean, Media, Bedelia, Thatcher, Blanche Dubois (which is still the best stage performance I’ve ever seen, and I work in theatre and pre-Covid saw a play at least once a week), Margo Channing in All About Eve – they are all so, so, so different. She is such a chameleon. It really is quite impressive. So while it would be lovely to see both Emma and Gillian awarded at the Emmys for Best Supporting in drama and comedy respectively, I’m more wishing Emma was able to be submitted as Lead alongside Olivia. But I know that isn’t going to happen.

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    Scully, Jean, Media, Bedelia, Thatcher, Blanche Dubois (which is still the best stage performance I’ve ever seen, and I work in theatre and pre-Covid saw a play at least once a week), Margo Channing in All About Eve – they are all so, so, so different. She is such a chameleon. It really is quite impressive.

    I saw her on stage in both All About Eve and A Streetcar Named Desire. Two absolutely phenomenal performances and I’d say the latter is one of her top 2 ever.

    FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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    Anderson has such a big narrative (bigger than Cox and Oh)

    Gillian Anderson doesn’t have a bigger narrative than (or even comparable to) Sandra Oh. I find it absolutely absurd that anyone would even say that.

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    Brian Cox and Gillian Anderson are both emmy winners, Sandra Oh is not and she tried like two thousand times.

    Jodie Comer was the right choice, but I feel sorry for Sandra, my god

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    Brian deserved that emmy tho, but this is for another threat

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    Brian Cox and Gillian Anderson are both emmy winners,

    The thing with Anderson though that separates her from Cox is that she has built up an immense amount of goodwill over the years and has distinguished herself as one of the most well respected and arguably iconic actresses in the industry. Whilst she is still quite well known for being Dana Scully she isn’t only known for being Scully anymore due to her acclaimed performances in The FallGreat ExpectationsBleak HouseSex EducationAmerican Gods etc.

    I admit I made a very silly mistake by saying she has more of a narrative than Oh (what I was trying to say is unlike Oh she has a showy performance) but she certainly has more of a narrative than Brian Cox (and I loved his performance in Succession and thought it was a masterclass).

    I have Corrin winning for now (because she looks absolutely phenomenal with her performance and may even end up being who I’m rooting for) but I’m not counting Anderson out just yet.

    FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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    I saw her on stage in both All About Eve and A Streetcar Named Desire. Two absolutely phenomenal performances and I’d say the latter is one of her top 2 ever.

    I caught the filmed performance of that when National Theater put it online at the beginning of COVID and my god was I fucking wrecked by it. Maybe one of the best performances I’ve ever seen captured on film

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    I caught the filmed performance of that when National Theater put it online at the beginning of COVID and my god was I fucking wrecked by it. Maybe one of the best performances I’ve ever seen captured on film

    Wrecked is right! I felt physically unwell when I left the Young Vic after watching it. I can only imagine how Gillian must have felt performing it 8 times a week for months.

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