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    musterd
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    I thought what Foy did between finishing the speech, getting up and walking inside was more nuanced than Colman has ever been able to be in this role.

    I think you are reading a lot into that little sequence. Of course you are entitled to your preference, but I think it’s pretty harsh to state that Foy’s 2ish minute speech had far more nuance than Colman’s performance in say Favourites or Fagan. Colman’s Queen is far more hardened by the “crumbling Britain” in the decades that have passed, the ennui of growing older and the mess of her kids amongst other factors. Strange to juxtapose both performances when their characters are at very different stages of their life playing out very different character arcs.

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    Like you said, I am entitled to my preference.

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    Watched the final two together.

    “Avalanche”: So so watchable yet again. It was, however, the first episode of the show that felt a bit too soap opera and it’s because it’s perhaps the first episode to not be treading new ground. Instead it’s essentially a continuation of “Terra Nullius”. Of course that means more sensational performances from Emma Corrin and, especially here, Josh O’Connor but it also kind of mars that which has always made The Crown interesting: it’s episodic storytelling. This is especially frustrating when the likes of Erin Doherty, who once again absolutely stole the show here, never get given their spotlight episode. I understand that Charles and Diana was the big story of the decade but it comes to a point when it’s a bit like we get it they hate each other time to move on.

    I find your take on “Avalanche” to be quite intersting. I never felt that while watching it. I actually severely disliked “Terra Nullius” but loved the former. And I find it quite superior in every way. Maybe it was Hobbs direction and the editing that helped me feel that way. It’s actually one of my favorite episodes of the season.

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    I did prefer “Terra Nullius” admittedly but I wasn’t saying that “Avalanache” was worse, just that it suffered from having come after “Terra Nullius” due to the themes of the episode (the disintegration of Charles and Diana’s marriage) feeling a tad repetitive.

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    I’m six episodes in and loving it. Emma Corrin for the win!

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    Finished it and WOW! It was such a great pleasure to watch this season. I literally have nothing to say about it other than calling it perfect. It should win every single award out there. The whole cast were great and should win SAG Ensemble. Emma Corrin is my personal favorite from the female supporting cast. Erin Doherty had more scenes than HBC, she should also be in awards conversations as well. Tobias Menzies is definitely not lead and should compete in supporting though the category is so empty that he can also get in to drama lead actor in Emmys. Episode 8 (48:1) was my favorite episode for writing. Olivia Colman was good but personally her performance as Queen Elizabeth II in both of the seasons wasn’t as memorable as Claire Foy. I feel like she didn’t elevate the role like Foy did even though she is a bigger star than her. I feel like she might not win the Emmy if another competitive female drama lead performance comes out.

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    I apologise if this has already been addressed. But unfortunately, Josh O’Connor and Emma Corrin are going lead. I’m so furious about this ugh I know this move is about the worry that Emma and Gillian will cancel out each other and cannabalise themselves in supporting and accordingly they had to move Josh in lead….. but Josh and Emma could’ve won in supp now it’s gonna be nerve wracking to see if they can even secure noms at all the precursors particularly Josh.

     

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    Colman has had enough (they say). These really prove that Debicki will be lead for next season.

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    How do we know they are going lead?

    If they indeed are then it’s over for them.they would have been a slam dunk in supporting!!

    Hopefully they change this in time for the emmys

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    How do we know they are going lead?

    If they indeed are then it’s over for them.they would have been a slam dunk in supporting!!

    Hopefully they change this in time for the emmys

    Those graphics were from Netflix’s FYC pages.

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    I apologise if this has already been addressed. But unfortunately, Josh O’Connor and Emma Corrin are going lead. I’m so furious about this ugh I know this move is about the worry that Emma and Gillian will cancel out each other and cannabalise themselves in supporting and accordingly they had to move Josh in lead….. but Josh and Emma could’ve won in supp now it’s gonna be nerve wracking to see if they can even secure noms at all the precursors particularly Josh.

    Lol O’Connor is more secure for a Globe nod now that he’s in Lead and can even win quite easily. Supporting there is never guaranteed. Being submitted Lead will also help him be taken more seriously at SAG. This is easily a smart move for these upcoming awards, maybe not for the Emmys but they’ve got time to change their minds before that (I hope they don’t).

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    Lol O’Connor is more secure for a Globe nod now that he’s in Lead and can even win quite easily. Supporting there was never guaranteed. Being submitted Lead will also help him be taken more seriously at SAG. This is easily a smart move for these upcoming awards, maybe not for the Emmys but they’ve got time to change their minds before that (I hope they don’t).

    I actually think it helps them all around. I feel like Colman having an impact on Corrin will be similar to Witherspoon on Aniston so I think it will be Corrin vs Aniston (unless somehow they decide to default back to Moss lol).

    And O’Connor has a far easier path to a win (I mean who is going to stop him in lead apart from maybe Matthew Rhys?) and Anderson could now pull a Lithgow in awards trajectory (apart from maybe SAG).

    So far so good. It almost guarantee’s Menzies a supporting nominations and might actually help them get one of Doherty or Fennell in (Doherty has the bigger and more fan-favourite role but Fennell has more buzz).

    FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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    I actually think it helps them all around. I feel like Colman having an impact on Corrin will be similar to Witherspoon on Aniston so I think it will be Corrin vs Aniston (unless somehow they decide to default back to Moss lol).

    I think it’s more of a Comer/Oh situation as Colman will definitely get some votes but yes.

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    If true, moving Corrin in lead is quite shocking coming from a show that’s been adamant at putting the holder of the crown at the center of the series.

    Based on the category names in the FYC booklet, it’s meant mainly for the Globes. Which makes it a good strategic move. I’m guessing the move was made because of the good expectations for the show at the Globes and not a decision made by Morgan.

    Depending on the slate of nominees, The Crown will do great at both Globes and SAG.

    Listing writers and directors this early doesn’t make sense and I wouldn’t rely on it much. Listing all four directors isn’t an indicator of an Emmy campaign strategy. If I had to guess, someone used a booklet from a previous awards season to project this year’s and thus included crafts categories.

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    <p style=”text-align: center;”>Every year we overestimate The Crown when it comes to acting nods, let’s be honest, only olivia, emma, Gillian , helena and josh are getting in. This is the best case scenario, no matter how we try to flip it, Tobias and especially Erin Doherty wont come close to a nomination. What’s more laughable is the idea that emerald fennel could get in. Even with the ones I have mentioned will get in, Olivia Colman could possibly miss. I can see a situation where the winter awards don’t swing in her favour like last season</p>

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