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    I want to love this show, but I only like it. It has the costumes, interesting filming techniques that keep your focus and interest, beautiful colors, great acting all-around, a compelling female lead who fits the role perfectly, etc. and yet I don’t know why it nor Rachel Brosnahan do not completely work for me. I think there’s a real lack of depth probably, not that I need all of my comedies to have depth, but it seems this show wants to be deep and character-driven and really be about something.

    I think outside of Brosnahan’s great and rapid-fire line deliveries, she’s sort of missing something deeper with her characterization. I also think the writing’s strong point is clearly the dialogue but like GG, it can get old fast but then it gets interesting again…over and over in one episode. That said, outside the dialogue and clever premises, I’m not sure there’s much to the writing. It does do a good job bringing me back to New York City during that time period though. I’d give it nominations and possible wins for the technical categories.

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    Riley
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    Something that I struggled with is that I cannot tell how much self-awareness the show has about its main character.  Neglectful parenting is to be expected on television, but remember when she want to that rally?  Was the show proud of her or was I supposed to note how out of touch she was, given her privilege? I also rolled my eyes at the manner in which she was continually thrust onto the stage. It is certainly not an all-time great (yet), but it is a fine show for its year.

    "I don't even believe in god, but I'm going to thank her tonight."

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    What a forking joke….

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    Riley
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    Orange is the New Black remains the only series that has failed its appeal.

    "I don't even believe in god, but I'm going to thank her tonight."

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    Riley
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    Voters have received the complete season.  Good on Amazon for sending it out individually instead of (just) with the rest of their shows.

    "I don't even believe in god, but I'm going to thank her tonight."

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    Gonna be tough to keep on the table as it’s so fluffy with fluff it’ll just float to the ceiling.

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    Voters have received the complete season. Good on Amazon for sending it out individually instead of (just) with the rest of their shows.

    It’s beautiful.

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    Riley
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    Voters received the complete season a second time, as part of the Amazon set:

    "I don't even believe in god, but I'm going to thank her tonight."

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    Riley
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    "I don't even believe in god, but I'm going to thank her tonight."

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    As usual, I’m late to the party on these streaming service things. I really hate all this TV that’s not on TV these days, necessitating subscriptions to Amazon Prime, Netflix, etc. But anyway, I decided to pony up to see this because I love mid-century settings and the premise was interesting. (Plus, now I can snag Jack Ryan while I’m at it.)

    As for the show, I’ve seen the first two episodes and will definitely finish the season. I thought the pilot was an absolute perfect showcase for Brosnahan (surprised it wasn’t her Emmy submission, but I haven’t seen the finale yet). I thought she did well with the script–all that talky dialogue flowed very naturally from her. And I am intrigued by the choice that Midge internalizes all the bad things that happen to her, making her initial reactions seem underplayed, but then all the emotion pours out when she’s on stage. Borstein is ideally cast (amused by the running gag of people calling her a man), but I hope as her story expands so will the shadings of her character. The rest of the cast is all very fine. Shalhoub is the master of underplaying and reacting to his scene partners (a skill which resulted in a Tony win a couple of months ago) and who knew Marin Hinkle had all this in her?

    The production and costume design are a total fantasy, but I love them; also in love with the lush tracking and follow shots in keeping with the style of the period. As someone else mentioned, the pilot felt overlong and if the other episodes run close to an hour, then it should possibly have been trimmed or packaged as 12 or 13 episodes. My only other issue is, putting aside political correctness for a moment, that the show sometimes feels very, very Jewish and that devolves into stereotype and been there-done that pretty quickly in some scenes. There is absolutely nothing fresh about Joel’s parents, for instance.

    Still very invested in seeing what journey this takes.

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    After finishing the season, I’m thinking the submission selections here will be an interesting further case study in whether tapes have any impact in the new voting system. All three major nominees made poor choices, IMHO. Each had an episode which would have made a much better submission.

    Brosnahan is considered the front runner in her category, but in her reel, so many of her scenes are owned by other people. Joel spending the night felt like his scene, her confession to her father felt like Shalhoub’s scene, and even the standup at the end was overshadowed by the confrontation between Joel and Susie. Brosnahan would have been much better off to submit the pilot, where everything revolved around her.

    Shalhoub only has one real scene in his submission. It’s quite good, but it’s over half an hour into the episode before he does anything other than grunt. I think he would have been better off with “Because You Left” or “Mrs. X at the Gaslight”, where he had a more centerpiece role.

    Borstein submitted one of the weakest of her options. Is it because she used her Lois Griffin voice in “Doink”? Anyway, the obvious choice for her was “The Disappointment of the Dionne Quintuplets”, where she had screentime to spare and ranged from making threats at the Copa to the heart-to-heart with Midge at the hot dog stand.

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