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    It’s no secret that The Sopranos is considered by a lot of people the best drama of all time, as well Friends is considered the best comedy of all time. However, at the Emmys of 1999 two David E. Kelley shows won over them. Do you think it was deserving? And if you were an award fan at that time: was that predictable or a shocker? Asking this especially for the comedy side since Ally was the first 1-hour comedy to win Comedy Series.

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    Those were shockers especially on the drama end. Most had that as a race between Sopranos and NYPD Blue.

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    I was not following the Emmys at the time of course, but given that the first season of The Sopranos won four TCA Awards and four Emmys and would go on to win four Golden Globes and three SAG Awards, plus PGA, DGA and WGA, that seems like a shocker and my understanding is that it is one of the great upsets.  The Practice was never nominated by DGA, never won a SAG Award, was snubbed in directing that season and was not even nominated in writing and editing, with The Sopranos winning both and having more nominations overall.  The Sopranos would have had all the buzz for revolutionizing television, but The Practice prevailed under the tape system.

    I doubt that Friends was competitive that year.

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    This is where we need Tom O’Neil to chime in because I believe that he predicted The Practice to win.

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    Those were shockers especially on the drama end. Most had that as a race between Sopranos and NYPD Blue.

    Thanks for the insight. Two more questions:

    Which show was the favorite to win Comedy?

    And why NYPD Blue was above The Practice since the latter won the year before?

    I doubt that Friends was competitive that year.

    Well, it was a very talked season, the ratings were high and it was the second and last year since S1 they got directing and writing. Shouldn’t be just a little competitive? Kinda like Barry last year, maybe?

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    Ally certainly has its issues and some elements have not aged well but I still think it was an inspired pick – especially compared to what they were going for at the time in the comedy categories. It paved the way for other non-sitcoms to compete more legitimately going forward.

    The Sopranos losing to the Practice…that’s pretty embarrassing.

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    The Sopranos not winning Series until its 5th season is a disgrace.

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    It’s much more egregious than Breaking Bad not winning until it’s fifth, because The Sopranos was and still is the greatest show (yes), and the competition was so paltry. Especially its first year competing. It really was cable and violent biases. Something that makes zero sense in the current landscape.

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    I think there was also a disdain for pay cable shows back then. They used to have their own awards (Cable Ace) and it was seen that they were now invading the broadcast network’s territory.

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    Back in the 90s, Emmys weren’t fans of giving freshman series the win. Picket Fences was the only show in the 90s to win best drama. Emmy voters loved talky shows with lots of dialogue and some quirkiness. David E. Kelley knew how to write Emmy episodes. Emmys loved importance and/or acting showcases on the drama side. The Practice had that more than The Sopranos, then The West Wing did the same and had the cache of Aaron Sorkin and the presidency. The Sopranos had the darkness and writing that makes it a lasting show and was a bit ahead of its time at the Emmys.

    As for the comedy, I think it being David E. Kelley helped Ally McBeal win this year, plus a makeup for not winning with the buzz of its first season. Friends is very popular, I wouldn’t call it the best of all time, or top ten, but many do love it and it had some of it’s biggest episodes in that season but it could have been too popular and Emmys thought that was enough for it. I’m still mad my favorite on Friends never got an Emmy nom.

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    Friends was never an Emmy favorite but I think in 1999 it was close with Ally McBeal.

    The sopranos really should have won for that first season.

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    So NYPD Blue had that arc where Jimmy Smits character died. That was a big deal and was considered super baity. Recall that this was when Dennis Franz also beat Gandolfini for Actor.  This was when we were still submitting 8 episodes and they had to be viewed in screenings (i.e. not at home) so it was super easy to misinterpret what would play with the panels.

    As far as comedy goes I think the idea was Friends or Frasier would carry the day on that one as the former was resurgent and the latter was still held in high regard (Hyde Pierce won his third that year and it won again for writing.) plus there was the factor of Ally being the first hour show to go comedy and get attention. A lot of press was about is it really a comedy, what is this? Sort of the same argument you see today with some shows.

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    Do a lot of people seriously consider Friends to be the “best comedy of all time?”

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    It is probably the most popular. They have a lot of fans in the internet. Here in Brazil is very, very popular. It isn’t even on my top 10, but I think the majority of people really consider being the best ever.

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    Do a lot of people seriously consider Friends to be the “best comedy of all time?”

    No. But it’s fifth season was definitely worthy of being considered for Best Comedy of that year.

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