May 1, 2013 at 8:33 am #274894
Just started buying the seasons for this (they’re dirt cheap at
Target). I tried getting into this show as a teen but I didn’t get it
the way I do now. Really, really, really love it now. I’ll post more
What do you think?May 1, 2013 at 8:56 am #274896
The X-Files was the first TV show I became a HUGE fan (especially because of Gillian “Scully” Anderson), so basically my first love.
I knew people say the show jumped the shark after Duchovny’s left after the 7th season, but I still like the last two seasons and that the ending was open.
Although the flame has subsided over the years, the love is still there and always will be (despite the fact the second movie was a bit dissapointing to me).May 1, 2013 at 9:48 am #274897
I still really like it, but I actually think Fringe surpassed it. And I don’t care much for Mulder nowdays. Scully is awesome though.May 1, 2013 at 10:15 am #274898
Yeah, I’m so happy Gillian has won an Emmy.May 1, 2013 at 12:42 pm #274899
Dana Scully is my favorite character. Her journey on this show is incredible and I love The X-Files dearly.May 1, 2013 at 4:20 pm #274900
I still really like it, but I actually think Fringe surpassed it. And I don’t care much for Mulder nowdays. Scully is awesome though.
Once Fringe’s ambition extended past being The X-Files 2.0 it was sometimes brilliant, but when it was in case of the week mode it rarely ever reached TXF’s heft. And having 2 half great seasons (first half of season three, second half of season four) hardly gives it reign over its mother show. The X-Files is one of the top ten or fifteen dramas ever. Fringe is a ways off from that.May 1, 2013 at 6:15 pm #274901
I so disagree. For one thing, I think two and a half great seasons is still better than only two great ones, and several okay others with some inspired moments and a lot of formulaic ones, and a few ones that range from downright bad to terrible. Fringe was a show that may have started out as a carbon coby of The X-Files, but it ended making riskier and more adventurous arcs and concepts. I also disagree that Fringe never matched The X Files consistency with case of the week stories. It’s just not as obvious because unlike The X Files, where the mythology, truth to be told, could be kinda boring, the mythology on Fringe was more wildly inventive and exciting to watch, so in a ways they overshadow the excellent case of the week episodes they have. I wouldn’t trade The Plateau or One Night In October for no TXF episode.
I think there’s a lot of nostalgia for X-Files, and while it had some great episodes, I don’t think it’s among ten or fifteen dramas of all time, no way. There are probably 10 genre shows alone that are better than TXF when you consider stuff like Star Trek, Star Trek: TNG, Twilight Zone, Twin Peaks, Lost, Battlestar Galactica, Alias and maybe even Buffy, among others. It was a really good show, but it can be a little bit overrated.May 1, 2013 at 6:43 pm #274902
I agree that mythology wasn’t TXF strong suit, but Fringe never beat TXF best cases of the week. Never.
Season three of Fringe had some nice moments in the second half, but it lost a lot of steam. The first half of season four was dud-y, then it got its stuff together. Season five was a bust. Season one comes off like generic carbon copy of The X Files. Season two has some nice moments but is overall a mess. The third season of Fringe was the only one that approached greatness, and it still didn’t quite get there. In general, even during its best stretches Fringe could get sloppy in its dialogue and feel too derivative. I appreciate Fringe, but when it wasn’t at its outright best it was often merely mediocre. TXF’s best installments were masterful in their tone and reveals. It was genuine storytelling. Fringe had so many connect the dots episodes. As good as some of its mythology episodes were they could often get convoluted or come off cliche. Out of that group of genre shows only Battlestar Galatica, Buffy, Star Trek: TNG and Twilight Zone am I willing to put on TXF’s level. I love Twin Peak’s first season, but that’s all there was, and I’m really not sure it counts as a genre show. I probably enjoyed the entirety of Fringe more than the entirety of Lost and Alias. So, I definitely like the show quite a bit. Both TXFs and Fringe were deeply flawed, The X Files mostly because it wore out its welcome. TXF however feels more sigular, more special than Fringe, which even at its best could come off like a few other shows spliced together.May 1, 2013 at 8:20 pm #274903
Fringe had standalone great moments, but overall was a mess. It changed its main arc during the first season (which i think is a great season, but because the monster of the week episodes were interesting and the development of walter and olivia was great; not so much for peter, that was “the baddass” who never did a thing), only found itself in the second part of season two, had a incredibly great beginning of season three and, after olivia came back, fell apart. By putting the romance of Peter and Olivia at center, the show lost a lot. I find the second part of season three the worst of Fringe, and the finale.. throwing away 3 years of development to start from scratch? That didn’t work at all. Season four only got better by episode 13, 14? Season five was the best season, worked perfectly and connected all dots. But when you look at the show as a whole, it had more bad episodes than good ones. It is too inconsistent. The development was cracked, and the Olivia characterization has some serious issues.
The X-Files had a slow start but after the second part of season 2, it became consistently good. It had at least 3 almost flawless seasons, and a wonderful movie. While the mythology isn’t that interesting, the characters play each other off so well that even the most boring episode (and i’m not being hardcore here, i can say at the top of my mind at least 15 terrible episodes) could have at least one good scene. Things started to be dropped after season 6, and even then this is the season with some of the most creative episodes ever. After Duchovny left, the show wasn’t the same, and the quality wasn’t the same, but in its entirety, it is still more consistent than Fringe. Like I said before, Dana Scully is a wonderful character, with one of the best progressions and development I’ve ever seen on tv.
All things said and done, I hate comparing these two shows. lolMay 1, 2013 at 11:54 pm #274904
The X-Files is an all time favourite of mine! Loved the dynamic between Mulder and Scully. I must say I really enjoy the X Files mythology.May 3, 2013 at 12:15 am #274905
So, I just watched an episode from season 2 (too lazy to check which one) and Scully said one of my favorite things ever:
“Imagine the miracle and you’re halfway there.”May 3, 2013 at 9:06 am #274906
“The X-Files” is one of those shows that went on a couple of years longer than it should have, but a decade after it went off the year it’s easier to forgive those late-era missteps in light of how great the show was for most of its run. This was probably the second TV show I truly fell in love with — the first was “Star Trek: The Next Generation.” It was formative during my childhood and adolescence as I started to also fall in love with writing.May 4, 2013 at 12:31 pm #274907
The X-Files is my favorite show of all time. I loved it as a teenager and still go back to it over and over again. The writing and the chemistry between Mulder and Scully is phenomenal. For me it ends at the end of the 8th Season (the 9th is a whole other deal). In many ways, TXF is the mother of the modern series: several of the producers and writers from TXF are now showrunners or producers on the top shows on TV (Homeland, Breaking Bad, The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Hunted, etc.) It’s my “I can name every episode in the first ten seconds” show.May 4, 2013 at 9:16 pm #274908
The X-files marked a generation, at least here in brazil, the show was a massive, huge huge hit, there was a point people would go out on streets with t-shirts and masks, It bacame quite a ryth to watch it everynight it was on (scared to death), I can’t even imagine how big it was in U.S, it marked my childhood, and I still go back to see some episodes from time to time, I also hate the comparisson to fringe, both amazing shows, both of them are on my top 10 shows ever and both of them amazed me in different ways, but yes I would say X-Files was way more consistent for a while, then all of the suddenly it was a mess.
I also think season 3 of fringe was the best, then season 5
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