July 30, 2016 at 1:49 am #1201881747
<p style=”text-align: left;”> I was curious how the Americans popped into best from a series this year at the Emmys so I did some research. My research is from 2000 and beyond, therefore for the purposes of this conversation we are going to imagine the world began in 2000. I was Interested to see that in 2015 it had a writing nomination. This made me wonder, how often does a series it’s a writing or directing nomination one year, and get a series nomination the next. I realized this happens a lot, as long as the reviews for the follow up season are better than the one with the writing or directing nomination. The follow up to the nominations has lesser reviews, then it will almost definitely not be nominated for series. All the cases since 200 of this are Treme, Buffy the vampire slayer, alias, the killing, battle star Galactica and huff. If the follow up season to the first writing/ directing nom has better reviews, it will almost certainly recurve a best drama nomination. The cases since 2000 are breaking bad, deadwood, grays anatomy, house, and the Americans. The only case of a show that got a drama nom after its writing/ directing nom despite lower critic reviews is Friday night lights. Another interesting case is Big love. It got a directing nom its 1st season, lower reviews its second season and no series nom as expected, but the third season received higher reviews and a series nom. The few exceptions are the are, nip/tuck, rescue me and the borgias. This can easily be explained. Logically if this theory were true, it would make sense that the academy would add one of the shows a year, so if two existing shows are on that both had writing or directing nominations, it would make sense that only one got a nomination. That is exactly what happened. The year Nip/Tuck could have got a nom according to my theory, was the same year deadwood got its first series nomination for season two. Which means nip/ tuck did not get in because deadwood took its spot. The same could be said for rescue me and the wire about house. The only confound is the borgias. That is the one true exception in my theory. Dang it!!!</p>
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<p style=”text-align: left;”>Now that I lined up the facts for my theory, let me explain the purpose. The writing directing nominations were interesting this year, as Ray Donnovan, the knick and unreal got in. The knick is interesting because the second season revived higher reviews than the first, but no drama nomination. This has oubviously happened, but it is different because it is the only one to still get a directing nomination the next year. This means it is still very likely for the knick to get a series nom if the third season has better review than the second. Ray Donnovan is also unlikely because the most recent season has lesser reviews than the previous season. Even though it could go down the path of Friday night lights, the path of alias is more likely’. Finally is unreal, which according to my theory is very close to gaining a nom for series next year. Not only did the series receive a writing nom, but the second season had much higher reviews. This could lead to the show going down the path of House, the more likely version, or it could go down the path of the Borgias. If you take the statistics form my theory, unreal is MUCH more likely to get nominated than it isn’t! This makes it look like unreal has a shot. Keep in Ming downtown abbey and probobky GOT are out of the drama race next year!</p>
<p style=”text-align: left;”>please add or correct to my theory! Are there mistakes! Remember this theory is based only past 2000. Could unreal get a series nomination? Am I crazy. Please add to tthe fourm. This is my first time making one!!!! Thanks for hearing my theory.</p>
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<p style=”text-align: left;”></p>Riley (the normal one, not the one who won the predictions contest)ParticipantJuly 30, 2016 at 4:03 am #1201881765
Welcome! Looks like you are using Metacritic, which only takes into account reviews at the start of the season. Metacritic scores are best thought of as a response to the first few episodes combined with the response to the previous season; I go into greater detail here. This season of UnREAL is reaching panned territory and is at least widely recognized as a sophomore slump. It is not coming back to writing or expanding at all.July 30, 2016 at 4:58 am #1201881776
I am definitely going to agree to disagree. I,as well as many others, thought season two was far better than season 1July 30, 2016 at 5:06 am #1201881780
And from what I have found meta critic is usually right, did you read the comment, almost every time meta critic is higher for a show that got writing or directing the show gets inJuly 30, 2016 at 9:24 am #1201881815
I think your thinking is solid but UnReal this season has been a rare (in my estimation) circumstance in which the metacritic score is starkly in contrast to how most critics now view the season as a whole (at least the episodes that have aired thus far). It is not so uncommon to have a bit of a disconnect if a season starts out strong and then falls off but from most of the critical chatter (I have not seen beyond episode 2 this season so not my personal opinion) the show didn’t just fall off but took a steep nose-dive. I would be shocked if it got into series.July 30, 2016 at 10:11 am #1201881834
Well, then that gives room for the knick almost be garunteed it theory is true.July 30, 2016 at 11:15 am #1201881846
Welcome! Looks like you are using Metacritic, which only takes into account reviews at the start of the season. Metacritic scores are best thought of as a response to the first few episodes combined with the response to the previous season; I go into greater detail here. This season of UnREAL is reaching panned territory and is at least widely recognized as a sophomore slump. It is not coming back to writing or expanding at all.
I don’t know about that. Don’t forget Bloodline repeating with its same 2 actors getting in again as the shows only nominations for its own “sophomore slump” season. If The Daily Show beating Last Week Tonight last year proved anything, its that the Emmy voters still have a potential blindspot for repeat winners, even if they’re not the most deserving anymore.Riley (the normal one, not the one who won the predictions contest)ParticipantJuly 30, 2016 at 11:56 am #1201881850
Bloodline retaining its two acting nominations is consistent with what I said. It did not expand and it was never nominated by the writers in the first place; they are perhaps the most fickle branch.July 30, 2016 at 12:06 pm #1201881851
Bloodline retaining its two acting nominations is consistent with what I said. It did not expand and it was never nominated by the writers in the first place; they are perhaps the most fickle branch.
Okay, yeah. That’s a good point about the writers branch. But do you think Constance Zimmer could still get in again?Riley (the normal one, not the one who won the predictions contest)ParticipantJuly 30, 2016 at 12:17 pm #1201881856
I think that she will. Four of the nominees in her category will not be back and it helps that she is a passion nominee as opposed to a name-check nominee that will eventually fall off randomly. And even if people think that the show has turned, I hear that she is still great.July 30, 2016 at 3:10 pm #1201881919
I think Zimmer might even be a dark horse to win. Based on my thinking, if y’all think unreal can’t get nominated, does that mean the knick has a shot?Riley (the normal one, not the one who won the predictions contest)ParticipantJuly 30, 2016 at 3:43 pm #1201881931
I really thought that The Knick was coming for a nomination this year, yet it somehow decreased its nominations from last year. It seems that people admire the show more than they like it and/or it is too damning for its series chances that the sizeable acting branch is unaware of it.July 30, 2016 at 9:55 pm #1201881984
Hopefully it has a chanceJuly 31, 2016 at 9:08 am #1201882082
Is more likely than not that The Knick won’t be eligible next year. I won’t spoiled for those who has not seen season two but if there’s a season three it will be with a new story, new cast and possible new era. It hasn’t still be announce if there be a new season only that Cinemax recuested a script.Riley (the normal one, not the one who won the predictions contest)ParticipantJuly 31, 2016 at 9:27 am #1201882086
You might be right. They finished shooting the second season at the end of May last year for an October launch and although a pick-up is imminent, it has still not happened yet. They say that they envision the series as an anthology trilogy of two-season stories.
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