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April 16, 2020 at 9:05 am #1203430149
I’ve started watching Mad Men for the first time during quarantine, and I’m curious if Bryan Batt was in the Emmy conversation for his performance as Sal in the the third season. I always thought he was great, but he really broke my heart in season three. Was there talk around his performance getting recognized?
Also, curiosity got the better of me, so I’m aware of what happens (or rather doesn’t happen) with Sal after season 3.
ReplyApril 16, 2020 at 10:06 am #1203430264No. There was no predictions centre back then, so I got people to post their ranked predictions periodically in the forum, then I entered them into a spreadsheet to generate rankings. Bryan Batt was not among the sixteen names (fourteen actually submitted) that the thirty-six users predicted in drama supporting actor. John Slattery ranked fourth. The only one that we missed was thirteenth-ranked Andre Braugher; we had John Goodman in sixth for Treme. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KQJtN2TlucfRJfrHcMjE_RP8rhvA68WOMgZ_Jk0Y8ZQ
ReplyCopy URLApril 16, 2020 at 3:04 pm #1203430857It always surprised me how they weren’t really able to get much traction for any actors on the show beyond the core players. In the current system Mad Men would have easily been able to get multiple supporting actors. At least we got that inspired Jared Harris nom.
ReplyCopy URLApril 17, 2020 at 1:12 am #1203431602No. There was no predictions centre back then, so I got people to post their ranked predictions periodically in the forum, then I entered them into a spreadsheet to generate rankings. Bryan Batt was not among the sixteen names (fourteen actually submitted) that the thirty-six users predicted in drama supporting actor. John Slattery ranked fourth. The only one that we missed was thirteenth-ranked Andre Braugher; we had John Goodman in sixth for Treme. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KQJtN2TlucfRJfrHcMjE_RP8rhvA68WOMgZ_Jk0Y8ZQ
This was really fascinating to read, were there any other years were you did this before the prediction centre opened. Also, did they really submit Charlie Hunnam in supporting for Sons of Anarchy and Anna Gunn for lead actress?
ReplyCopy URLApril 17, 2020 at 6:00 am #1203431788IMO, the abrupt disappearance of the character of Sal and failure to give him any type of closure during the final season was Matthew Weiners biggest mistake on an otherwise impeccably crafted show. Just as Sal was hitting his stride, poof he was gone! With his characters growth, it would have been fascinating to see how Sal did or didn’t cope with his realities during that time period.
ReplyCopy URLApril 17, 2020 at 9:08 am #1203432081Yeah, it really pisses me off that he’s never gonna appear again. The way they ended his story hints at him going through a major development, that he’s going to embrace his sexuality after getting fired, but the way they left it doesn’t actually offer any real closure. Apparently Weiner originally wanted Sal to pop back up as a director later on, but the storyline ended up not going in that direction and I guess he just didn’t care enough about the character to ever bring him back.
Also, Don’s firing of Sal is probably his cruelest action so far in the series. Obviously his adulterous is awful, but firing a man who’s extremely uncomfortable about his sexuality for not succumbing to sexual harassment was a real dick move on his part. It would’ve been nice to have Sal back later to call him out on it.
ReplyCopy URLApril 17, 2020 at 12:18 pm #1203432501This was really fascinating to read, were there any other years were you did this before the prediction centre opened.
I do not remember, but that is the only year that I can find. Make sure that you check out the other tabs that are within that link though. The main view only shows drama, but there are sheets there for comedy and also writing and directing.
Also, did they really submit Charlie Hunnam in supporting for Sons of Anarchy and Anna Gunn for lead actress?
They did not submit Charlie Hunnam in supporting. The sheet is labelled “Buzzmeter #5” because it was the fifth and final update of the rankings that I did before nominations. It was a collection of all of the ranked predictions that people had posted over the season; whenever someone posted new ones, I would delete their old ones for the next update. The user who predicted Hunnam in supporting did not post new predictions after the ballot came out, but I manually adjusted Hunnam’s percentage to zero and moved him to the end of the list to acknowledge the nomination not being possible. The same is true for Cherry Jones in supporting actress, although her nomination not being possible was not because she was in another category, but because she withheld her name from consideration at all. That was indeed the only season that Anna Gunn submitted lead instead of supporting and it is why it took her until the fourth season to get a nomination. She gave up an easy nomination that year and the Emmys had to resort to nominating Sharon Gless for Burn Notice, which you can see nobody predicted. Perhaps it was part of a larger AMC strategy to compensate for Elisabeth Moss moving down to supporting that year.
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