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    I guess I’m in kind of a bitchy mood. Who are the cast members/characters that stop great ensembles from being perfect?

    All my picks are based on the characters rather than the actors playing them

    Ellaria and the Sand Snakes – Game of Thrones
    What can I say? It’s almost like the professional writers went out for lunch, someone accidentally destroyed the pages that Ellaria and the Sand Snakes appeared on while they were gone, and then they tried to write a replacement script hoping that no one would notice the original draft was gone.  These are some of the dumbest, most irrational, and unlikable characters to ever appear on the show. Except, unlike other dumb, irrational, and unlikable characters such as Joffrey, the show never seems to intentionally paint them as awful people, and not once does the series make it clear just how horribly destructive their actions are. Oberyn may have been a huge hot head, but he made it clear that he would never harm Myrcella to get back at the Lannisters. Also, I’ll never understand the logic of avenging Oberyn by murdering the rest of his family. I’ll cut Ellaria some slack. She was actually a likable character in the fourth season, and Indira Varma gave a very good performance (especially in The Queen’s Justice) despite awful material from season 5 onwards. The Sand Snakes however, are completely irredeemable. While Game of Thrones is home to a huge number of badass characters, the Sand Snakes are just lame. Every attempt to make them seem cool (such as that dreadful season 5 fight scene) ended up being laughable. These four were so loathed that most of the fan base was celebrating their demises despite the fact that they were on the side of the heroes.

    Dan Egan – Veep (In the later seasons)
    In my opinion, Dan is by far the most despicable character on Veep. While this isn’t a show with a particularly likable cast, Dan stands out as having almost no redeemable qualities. The reason why the character originally worked was because he was treated as a loser. He may have had his moments of competency, but he would constantly have his plans blow up in his face, proving that he was just as hopelessly inept as the characters he believed he was so much better than. When Dan failed, he failed big time. And that’s where his biggest laughs came from. Having a douchebag act like a dick while bragging about how awesome he is isn’t very entertaining. Seeing that same asshole fail miserably on the other hand, is hilarious. But then in the later seasons, the writers seemed to forget about this. Dan’s losses were too few and far between, and none of them felt like the same humiliating defeats that he previously had handed to him. And some of his losses end up being only minor setbacks. So now the audience is stuck with an utterly hateful person who keeps getting jobs that he’s horribly unqualified for. There was literally a deleted scene in season 2 where Kent tells Dan that he’s too dumb to work for him, yet he seemingly has no problem starting a law firm with him at the end of season 6. At the very least, seeing him get fired by Richard in the finale was immensely satisfying. The fact that he’s finally told he’s bad at politics by the the nicest character in the entire show was icing on the cake.

    All characters introduced in the final two seasons – The Office
    I’m not the first person to say this, but The Office should’ve ended when Steve Carell left. Having to watch the series for two years without Michael Scott really goes to show how important he was to the series. His departure left such an enormous hole, and none of the second rate roles added afterwards came close to filling it. Robert California showed genuine promise in his early appearances, but quickly suffered from an inconsistent presence, and even more inconsistent writing. The show clearly had no idea what to do with him, with his characterization greatly changing between episodes. Catherine Tate’s Nellie was far too unsympathetic. What made the writers think that the audience would like a character who intentionally screws a previous fan favorite out of his job? While she got better and managed to show a more likable side in the 9th season, she still ended up feeling too out of place. Clark Duke and Jake Lacy’s characters were simply added too late into the show to make the necessary impact on the audience. They were so forgettable that I had to look up the names of their roles (Clark and Pete), which is pretty bad considering Duke’s character shares his first name. Pete was just a rehash of Jim, except without any personality. Clark was slightly better, but ultimately was shallow and uninteresting. The final season also completely ruined Andy. He was already being messed up in the 8th season, but then he completely shed off all his character development, and started acting like a huge jackass towards everyone, despite being one of the most likable people in the show’s earlier seasons. I especially hated having him treat Erin like garbage when he had previously been willing to lose his job for her, just so the writers could pair her up with Pete for a boring and unnecessary romance. While they got the character back on track at the very end of the series, the damage was already done.

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    Emmyfan
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    Sally Struthers in All In The Family

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    nkb325
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    I originally assumed this was referring to performance, but it seems like your kind of also going for character, so I’ve got one of each for the same show. Six Feet Under may be the best show to ever air on television, with one of the best ensembles of the medium, but I could never get over these two weak links:

    Matthew St. Charles (Keith) as a performer and the character of Frederico (played by Freddy Rodriguez).

    In a cast full of game changing performances St Charles was just always a weak link, he seemed inexperienced and flat, and I never bought him as a real living breathing person, even though Keith was a great character. Like i genuinely was such a bland and unbelievable actor got cast in a major role. I did not find it surprising when I found out he was literally the only main cast member never to be nominated for an emmy.

    Frederico meanwhile, while played well enough by Rodriguez I guess, just kind sucked. He was whiny and rude, and at one point homophobic. Whenever he wanted something from the Fisher’s, he would whine that they don’t tread him like part of the family despite everything he’s done for them, but then whenever they need something from him he’d immediately pull away and say he’s not a part of the family. Then add all the shitty, self centered ways he treated his wife and his family, and he just sucked.

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    Riley
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    The Americans: Henry Jennings
    Arrested Development: Lindsay Fünke
    Better Call Saul: Howard Hamlin
    Breaking Bad: Steve Gomez
    Dexter middle seasons: Rita Bennett
    Game of Thrones: Euron Greyjoy
    Glee: Tina Cohen-Chang
    Homeland later seasons: Max Piotrowski
    The Last Man on Earth: Erica Dundee
    Lost overall: Charles Widmore
    Mad Men overall: Ken Cosgrove
    The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel: Joel Maisel
    Master of None: Brian Chang
    Masters of Sex: Libby Masters
    Mindhunter: Debbie Mitford
    Modern Family: Luke Dunphy
    The Office: Ryan Howard
    Silicon Valley: Monica Hall
    24: Wayne Palmer
    Veep: Dan Egan

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    Rachel
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    The casting of Euron Greyjoy was strictly nepotism. Pilou Asbæk used to be the nanny for Nikolaj Coster-Waldau’s daughters. He also wasn’t age-appropriate for the role. Euron was supposed to be in his 50s’ not the exact age as Theon. Euron was so insanely evil in the books and the show just made him into a comic book character.

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    Pulp
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    Never really cared for Chris Zylka or Kevin Carroll in The Leftovers.

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    methaddiction
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    Steven Michael Quezada – Breaking Bad
    Aidan Gillen – The Wire
    Sibel Kekilli – Game of Thrones
    Isaac Hempstead Wright – Game of Thrones
    Taissa Farmiga – Murder House
    Lizzie Brocheré – Asylum
    Taissa Farmiga – Coven
    Gabourey Sidibe – Coven
    Emma Roberts – Freak Show
    Gabourey Sidibe – Freak Show
    Simon Quarterman – Westworld
    Julie Benz – Dexter
    Ruby Rose – Orange is the New Black
    Stacey Roca – Mindhunter

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    Turd Ferguson
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    Finn Wolfhard is not very good in these later seasons of Stranger Things.

    Big fan of Better Call Saul, Sex Education, Barry, BoJack Horseman, and, especially, Survivor

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