( +4 hidden )
March 23, 2020 at 9:27 am #1203391282
THIS SHOW. A+ Maeve is back 🙂March 23, 2020 at 9:28 am #1203391284
Who wasn’t dead that you thought should be dead? I didn’t see any new hosts this episode – who are you referring to? Apologies, just hate comments like these because at this point it’s clear you’re just not buying into the show, which is totally fine, but this is clearly the wavelength that WW has always operated on so why continue to watch if it’s not for you?
I think Riley’s referring to Luke Hemsworth’s character Ashley being revealed to be a host. It’s worth noting, they heavily implied this to be the case in season 2’s finale (and it was later confirmed), but a casual viewer would have likely forgotten about it. And Simon Quarterman’s Lee Sizemore is back despite dying last season. This case is more ambiguous. First they made it seem like he was merely crippled, but it’s clear that he’s a copy of the original Sizemore and the as far as we know, the real deal died. He seemed to be a program in Maeve’s simulation, but given the fact that Quarterman is still listed in the opening credits, unlike the also returning Rodrigo Santoro, we can definitely expect him to pop up again. The question is, will it be in another simulation, will he be a host, or could the initial twist of Sizemore surviving end up being played straight? We’ll see.March 23, 2020 at 10:06 am #1203391362
Stubbs was clearly revealed as a host in the finale.
Sizemore isn’t “back from the dead” – he was part of the simulation Cirac was running to try to squeeze info out of Maeve.
Again, not really seeing anything especially new or confusing here.March 23, 2020 at 10:12 am #1203391368
Looking forward, next episode seems to be our Tessa Thompson showcase while the one after will be on Ed Harris. Turns out Charlotte Hale is a mom, so whoever’s in her body is going to have to take up that job too. Also, in some shots she has a mole on the left side of her face and sometimes she doesn’t. My guess is that it’s something she puts on when she can to give herself a little bit of independent identity – adopting someone else’s life and very body does not seem like fun.March 23, 2020 at 10:53 am #1203391409
If he’s missing the first three episodes, there’s no way they are still going to run Harris in lead, right?
I am still on the fence with Wright in terms of placement. I really want to squeeze him into my lead actor lineup but not sure who to take out (and I don’t want to lose my 100/1 odds on Paul).
I would say that, in other circumstances, now that she is being given good material, Thompson might have an outside shot given her popularity as an actress/personality but her character was so disliked for the first two seasons that it is probably too much for her to overcome. Plus that category is overstuffed as it is.March 23, 2020 at 10:55 am #1203391416
Stubbs was clearly revealed as a host in the finale. Sizemore isn’t “back from the dead” – he was part of the simulation Cirac was running to try to squeeze info out of Maeve. Again, not really seeing anything especially new or confusing here.
I’m aware of both of those, I’m just saying I think that’s where Riley’s coming from. Stubbs was heavily implied to be a host in season 2’s finale, but it’s only here that the show gives a definitive answer about it. As for the whole nobody being dead thing, I think it was brought up since Sizemore is back in the show, even though the original Sizemore died.March 23, 2020 at 12:16 pm #1203391647
I will come back to talk specifics later, but I just want to say that everyone has a right to continue to watch programs for whatever reason they choose. It should be glaringly obvious in this forum especially why someone might continue to watch something that will not make their best-of list and that extends to talking about its quality (and how that relates to awards). Calling someone a hater is also lazy, not to mention that I have said here that the first season of Westworld was more consistent than any of Game of Thrones.March 23, 2020 at 12:16 pm #1203391649
Liked the first episode! Didn’t love it though, I worry that the show is veering too quickly into generic sci-fi territory with the Wood/Paul storyline.
However, I LOVED the second episode. Dolores may be the lead, but Maeve is the real star of the show. This episode felt much more like the Westworld of season one, and the writing was great.
I still like the show a lot, but I really do miss spending the majority of our time in the parks. That’s what really made me (and I think a lot of other people) fall in love with the show in the first place, that cool juxtaposition of the futuristic real world and the western world of the park.
Glad to see Tessa Thompson finally getting some real meaty material. Wood is doing great, as per usual. Wright hasn’t had a ton to do but he’s still good. Newton (no surprise) is knocking it out of the park.
Good start! Westworld usually does have its best material in the second half of every season, so I’m waiting (and hoping) for everything to ramp into stellar status again.March 23, 2020 at 2:34 pm #1203391789
though I loved the second episode, the whole thing feels just so different from what it once was. I just rewatched the scene of Ford doing the ‘peacock’ monologue and killing Theresa. So much suspense into one scene. I find this season not to be very suspenseful up until now. Maybe it is because the first seasons seemed to be more story centric and now it feels more character driven. It almost feels like the creators are a little too concerned in showing how cool these characters are. I still enjoy it though but if this season has a ‘could-be series’ ending and the ratings stay low, i wouldn’t be surprised if this does not get renewed. Especially because of the big budget which only seems to become bigger every seasonMarch 23, 2020 at 2:48 pm #1203391802
Newton was amazing once again she cannot do wrong with Maeve she just such an amazing character. I really hope she wins her second emmy (it should be her third because she should have easily won for season 1) for the show but her category is so stacked i’m not so confident she’ll repeat but this is still early day we’ve still got 6 episodes so hopefully she has ore amazing material to boost her to the win!March 23, 2020 at 3:32 pm #1203391829
Bringing back dead characters is among the most tired television tropes. This applies whether the characters are literally resurrected, just appear as ghosts, simulations or whatever. It cheapens the story by minimizing stakes and relying on the shorthand of existing faces is a convenient way to avoid developing the world of a show more organically.
Sizemore died in the finale, yet he continues to appear on the show, so I care less about his death because it did not change much functionally and this is what I mean about the people not staying dead and the show bringing back dead characters.
The second season finale left Stubbs open to interpretation. Good for you if felt that there was no ambiguity, but there were several articles written at the time about the ambiguity and more have popped up since last night to talk about the ambiguity being removed. This is like when a season ends with a character pulling the trigger on someone else. The next season variably begins with some kind of fake-out or it begins with the bullet fatally impacting the victim. There was suggestive dialogue in the last finale for sure, but he did not come out and talk about his robotic qualities like he did last night.
The other thing about discouraging hate comments and questioning why I am watching suggests that you do not want me to watch. But this is a catch-22 because then nobody would take me seriously when I disparage the show and this would lead to criticisms that I do not know what I am talking about because I did not watch, not to mention that this is kind of my job. Furthermore, just because I am not enjoying the show right now, it does not mean that I will not later. Learn to deal is what I saying or maybe just think about what you are really asking. A comment hating on my post like yours makes me think that you are not really interested in the answer.March 23, 2020 at 3:54 pm #1203391919
Assuming that was aimed at me – not really calling you a “hater” or hating on your post – I feel like I’ve been posting here long enough for you to know that I respect your opinion and prognostication skills.
Personally, I just feel that there’s only so much time in this world and so much content – why waste it on something you’re obviously not vibing with? I respect your viewpoint here – probably was not articulating myself the best way that I could have.
With respect to specifics, I didn’t feel that Lee’s simulation self undercut the emotion/stake of his actual death (in fact, I felt that it was a nice coda to his story) nor did I feel that the Stubbs reveal was ambiguous (but can we talk about how a robot somehow “missed” when firing a bullet at itself?!) but fair enough if you disagree.March 23, 2020 at 3:55 pm #1203391921
This episode was pure Nolanism. Loved it.
For Your Consideration Emmys 2020:
Ramin Djawadi- Outstanding Music Composition, "Westworld"March 23, 2020 at 3:57 pm #1203391923
It was for you, those who liked your post and also others that I respect like thatnerdgreg, who recently wrote me the same thing in the Better Call Saul thread.
The topic ‘Westworld Season 3’ is closed to new replies.