What’s the Biggest Case of Category Fraud at the Emmys?

[Sab227 Joined: Dec 29th, 2012 Topics: 102 Posts: 724 View Predictions]

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ricardo505 wrote:

Rob Lowe in lead for “Parks and Recreation”.

I never understood why he submitted in lead even as a supporting nomination he never had the best material and he played his character one note so the fact he would go lead is the epitome of ludicrous.

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[Seven Joined: Dec 21st, 2016 Topics: 8 Posts: 2803 View Predictions]

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My girl Aunjanue Ellis getting in LEAD for WTSU was such a gag. I’m not mad at it but still

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[John Nguyen Joined: Aug 2nd, 2017 Topics: 2 Posts: 139 View Predictions]

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Piper Laurie as lead in twin peaks. Lara Flynn Boyle was more lead than piper

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[Julien Veyrenc Joined: May 25th, 2019 Topics: 1 Posts: 13 View Predictions]

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This may be a little off topic but I never really understood how the ensemble cast series determined the difference between lead/supporting:

To be clear, this is not criticising, those are genuine interrogations 🙂

Why the cast of Friends was submitted as supporting during the first seasons and then lead after that? Even if that’s not really a problem because I don’t think a difference was ever made between the six main actors and that’s the most important.

I think I remember Sheen and Lowe being submitted as lead in The West Wing, I don’t think they were more important than Janney, Spencer, Whitford or Schiff, I believe Sheen was even originally supposed to only be a guest star.

Same goes about Lost, I get why Fox would be submitted as a lead but why not as well Holloway, O’Quinn and Emerson at least? (or even Garcia, Lilly)

In Brothers & Sisters, the cast was led by Field but Flockhart, Griffiths or Rhys were really important parts of the family drama.

Last but not least, in GOT I think Dinklage could easily have been a lead on many seasons, Headey as well after S4…

Any thoughts?

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[Seven Joined: Dec 21st, 2016 Topics: 8 Posts: 2803 View Predictions]

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None of the Friends main 6 were supporting, especially not fucking Aniston out of all people. Her early supporting noms were ridiculous

All 6 of them should have gunned for Lead from the beginning, like the Desperate Housewives ladies did

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[DylanMcPhee Joined: Mar 13th, 2020 Topics: 3 Posts: 111 View Predictions]

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It didn’t bother me and made strategic sense, but Shailene Woodley was an undeniable lead in Big Little Lies’ first season. Witherspoon was the main character in terms of screen time and involvement in all the storylines, but Woodley was the protagonist whose eyes we saw the series through. Reese and Shailene should have went lead, Kidman and Dern should have went supporting. However, the latter two had more narrative to win their deserved accolades, so it made sense to split them apart. The 2017/18 Limited Actress race was one of the best lineups in awards show history. As great (and justified) as Kidman’s sweep was; she, Witherspoon, Lange and Sarandon (I’ll include Huffman here too as she’s always phenomenal but I never saw the third season of American Crime) ALL gave career best performances.

Although she didn’t receive a nomination that year, Teri Hatcher submitted supporting for season 8 of Desperate Housewives- a series that always submitted as comedy despite being a drama.

Idris Elba and Helen Mirren always being nominated in Limited for Luther and Prime Suspect, despite them being ongoing series.

Woodley Harrelson going Lead for Game Change to stop him competing against Ed Harris.

 

 

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[Kelvin Joined: Mar 10th, 2020 Topics: 2 Posts: 180 View Predictions]

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Everyone from This Is Us. The category placements are beyond all over the place.

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[ricardo505 Joined: Jun 14th, 2015 Topics: 0 Posts: 318 View Predictions]

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DylanMcPhee wrote:

Idris Elba and Helen Mirren always being nominated in Limited for Luther and Prime Suspect, despite them being ongoing series.

As far as I know, both Luther and Prime Suspect were ineligible for drama series, which is ridiculous. Sherlock, The Hour and the last seasons of The Big C and Treme were also ineligible.

I think the biggest fraud for limited series/series was Downton Abbey. The second season started production in March 2011, nearly four months before the nominations announcement.

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[Brayden Fitzsimmons Joined: May 3rd, 2015 Topics: 78 Posts: 4913 View Predictions]

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I can never get over Melissa Benoist being submitted in Guest for the 4th season of Glee.

Where she appeared in 22/22 episodes and her character was literally introduced in an episode called “The New Rachel”, where she was literally picked to replace Rachel Berry was the lead.

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[thedemonhog Joined: Oct 11th, 2010 Topics: 151 Posts: 16786 View Predictions]

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ricardo505 wrote:

As far as I know, both Luther and Prime Suspect were ineligible for drama series, which is ridiculous. Sherlock, The Hour and the last seasons of The Big C and Treme were also ineligible. I think the biggest fraud for limited series/series was Downton Abbey. The second season started production in March 2011, nearly four months before the nominations announcement.

That was fraudulent, but where the rules required it at the time, as PBS aired the show in four blocks, so it did not have the six episodes required to qualify as a drama.

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[ricardo505 Joined: Jun 14th, 2015 Topics: 0 Posts: 318 View Predictions]

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thedemonhog wrote:

That was fraudulent, but where the rules required it at the time, as PBS aired the show in four blocks, so it did not have the six episodes required to qualify as a drama.

Oh, I didn’t know. Thanks, Riley.

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[Emmyfan Joined: Nov 26th, 2010 Topics: 73 Posts: 4288 View Predictions]

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Jon Cryer as Supporting Actor for Two & A Half Men and he won in 2009 after being nominated 2006 – 2008 and 2010. Then he went lead in 2012 and won.

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[Bebe Joined: Nov 10th, 2010 Topics: 5 Posts: 366 View Predictions]

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SNL performers in the guest acting categories! I don’t get why people aren’t more upset about this, since these nominations (and wins) for SNL performers take away from actual guest performers in comedy series.

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[Ivo Stoyanov Joined: Jun 3rd, 2015 Topics: 2 Posts: 1713 View Predictions]

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Desperate Housewives competing in Comedy instead of Drama is what bothers me the most.

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[Hoster1 Joined: Aug 8th, 2016 Topics: 2 Posts: 1239 View Predictions]

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The biggest fraud competing in Limited Series will always be Twin Peaks. A third season to a already existing series, featuring the same characters with 18 episodes.

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