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  • Morgan Henard
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    Television Critics Association and Television Critics Choice — What’s the difference? Obviously they are both compiled of television critics, but is the individual critic in both groups? Is one more prestigious than the other? I know the TCA has been around longer, and this is only the fourth year for the TVCCA.

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    The TCA is more prestigious and more consists of people who have traditionally been print critics.  The BTJA that gives out the CCTA comprises more online journalists.

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    TCA = NYFCCA
    TVCCA = BFCA

    lol 

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    The Television Critics Association announced their nominations yesterday and the Broadcast Television Journalists Association announced their nominations for the Critics’ Choice Television Awards this morning.  What series have consequently gotten a boost in the lead-up to the nominating phase of the Primetime Emmy Awards next month?

    • The Americans: After leading the TCA nominations last year, yet only scoring two Creative Arts Emmy nominations, The Americans once again enamored the critics, as the show itself and Matthew Rhys again earned nominations from both groups, Keri Russell repeated her Best Drama Lead Actress CCTA nomination and Annet Mahendru broke through in the Supporting Actress category.
    • The Big Bang Theory: After being snubbed last year by the TCA despite the show itself going on to win Best Comedy Series, Jim Parsons is once again nominated for Individual Achievement.  The sitcom also led all comedies at the CCTA, with five nominations.
    • Broad City: This first-year comedy has hundred-to-one odds across the board for the Emmys in the Gold Derby predictions center, but it scored CCTA nominations for Best Comedy Series and Lead Actress Ilana Glazer.
    • The Crazy Ones: It seemed that Emmy hopes for this show had been snuffed out, as the star power of Robin Williams under Emmy favorite writer-producer David E.  Kelley was not enough to get any Golden Globe nominations and the first-year sitcom was recently cancelled.  Williams’s CCTA nomination puts it back in the race.
    • The Good Wife: After being skunked by the TCA the last two years, the legal drama and star Julianna Margulies respectively returned to the Best Drama Series and Individual Achievement categories and the show reaped its first-ever nomination for Program of the Year.  It also tied for a leading five CCTA nominations, which is its most ever.
    • Louie: Less than half of the fourth season had aired by the time that ballots were due.  Critics either responded really well to the few episodes or the show had so much goodwill from past seasons that Louie returned to every category at both groups in which it received nominations last year.
    • The Mindy Project: Despite declining ratings, a negligible shift in buzz and largely having been ignored by the critics when it premiered last year, the second-year sitcom scored a TCA nomination for Best Comedy Series and Mindy Kaling was recognized for Individual Achievement; it received neither of these last year.  The CCTA nominated Chris Messina for Best Comedy Lead Actor after skunking the show last year.
    • Shameless: Given the dramedy’s switch from the drama to comedy categories, Emmy Rossum is now the first actor or actress ever at the CCTA to have been nominated as Best Lead Actress in both genres.  Shameless also picked up its first supporting bid, for Jeremy Allen White.
    • Veep: The series itself and lead Julia Louis-Dreyfus were nominated by both groups and Tony Hale received his first CCTA Best Comedy Supporting Actor nomination.
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    The Good Wife: After being skunked by the TCA the last two years, the legal drama and star Julianna Margulies respectively returned to the Best Drama Series and Individual Achievement categories and the show reaped its first-ever nomination for Program of the Year.  Thanks to its first entry in Best Drama Supporting Actor, for Josh Charles, it also tied for a leading five CCTA nominations, which is its most ever.

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    Alan Cumming was nominated in 2011.  

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    The Television Critics Association announced their nominations yesterday and the Broadcast Television Journalists Association announced their nominations for the Critics’ Choice Television Awards today, begging questions about why there are two associations and how they vary.

    For the last three decades, the Television Critics Association has annually bestowed the TCA Awards.  Unlike other award shows, votes during the nomination phase are write-in.  This leads to cases like Orange is the New Black.  Despite nominations for Program of the Year and Outstanding New Program, it was not nominated for Outstanding Achievement in Comedy or Drama, apparently because TCA members variably voted for it as a comedy or a drama.

    Also unlike most other award shows, they do not have separate categories for actors and actresses in lead and supporting roles.  Instead, they are all lumped together in two prestigious Individual Achievement categories, one for drama and one for comedy.  These are not strictly performance categories either.  David E.  Kelley won in 1999 for writing and producing The Practice; a nomination for Louis C.K.  is assumed to be as much for his work on Louie behind the camera as it is in front.  Given that the TCA typically only nominates ten performances per year and the Emmys nominate nearly a hundred, one would expect all of the TCA nominees to repeat their nominations at the Emmys and this is sometimes the case, like two years ago; however, there are also years like 2013 when four of the ten TCA-nominated performances, including drama winner Tatiana Maslany of Orphan Black, are snubbed by the Emmys.

    TCA members each vote for only two per category during the nominating phase, ensuring that every nomination has a level of passionate support behind it.  The TCA comprises over two hundred of the United States and Canada’s top television critics, especially those whose reviews regularly appear or appeared in print newspapers.  Although the Broadcast Television Journalists Association also includes some of the most renowned critics like Ken Tucker (previously of Entertainment Weekly, now The Daily Beast), the membership—under a hundred—contains many journalists who have only been published online and many of whom rarely or never write reviews of episodes or new seasons of television shows.

    Abbreviated as BTJA, which they insist is pronounced “betcha”, they are a newer organization—this is its fourth year—and an offshoot of the Broadcast Film Critics Association that has bestowed the Critics’ Choice Movie Awards for nearly two decades.  Similar to how those awards mimic the Oscars, the CCTA follow the Emmys, at least in terms of how they categorize nominations and how many nominees they have per category.   When the Television Academy announced earlier this year that they were reintroducing the Best Miniseries and Best TV Movie categories, the BTJA was quick to announce that they too would be splitting up the Best Movie or Miniseries category.   Despite the shared template, the CCTA nominations wildly differ from the Emmys, unlike how similar the CCMA are to the Oscars.  For example, none of the twelve comedy supporting CCTA nominees last year went on to be nominated for an Emmy, which suggests that the CCTA does not have much influence on the Emmys.  In fact, of the fourteen CCTA acting winners last year, only two (Michael Douglas for Behind the Candelabra and Julia Louis-Dreyfus for Veep) repeated at the Emmys and the six of the eventual Emmy acting winners were snubbed.

    The TCA Awards ceremony—July 19th this year, the earliest in six—is privately held with winners notified in advance, in contrast to the CCTA ceremony, which has previously been webcast and this year will be televised for the first time, June 19th on The CW network.

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    The recently unveiled slates of nominations by the two television critics’ groups gave some shows a boost in the lead-up to the nominating phase next month for the Primetime Emmy Awards.  It is now time to look at what shows have cause for concern.

    • Brooklyn Nine-Nine: Despite barely appearing on any critics’ year-end top ten lists, the first-year sitcom scored TCA nominations for Best Comedy Series and New Program, suggesting that critics really came around to the show after its Golden Globe wins.  However, this was called into question the next day, as supporting actor Andre Braugher was the show’s only CCTA nomination.
    • Game of Thrones: Guest Diana Rigg was the sole acting bid for the fantasy drama at the CCTA, as none of the regular cast was nominated.
    • Girls: Lena Dunham was the dramedy’s sole TCA nomination last year and she was dropped this year.  The CCTA gave it just one nomination for guest Andrew Rannells, down from three last year.
    • House of Cards: The political drama reaped a single nomination apiece from the groups.  The TCA nominated the show for Best Drama Series and the CCTA nominated Robin Wright for Best Drama Actress, so lead actor Kevin Spacey missed both lists.
    • Masters of Sex: It is expected to be a major player at the Emmys, but the prestigious period piece was skunked by the TCA, even failing to score a New Program nomination against pedestrian drama Sleepy Hollow.  It fared much better in the CCTA nominations and even tied for the lead with five.
    • Modern Family: Shut out by the TCA for the second straight year, the CCTA has now also entirely dropped the Emmy magnet.
    • The Normal Heart: In their race to have the first word, TCA ballots were due nearly a week before this critically-acclaimed movie aired and before most reviews were published.  As such, the most high-profile television movie of the year was snubbed by the TCA, although it reaped a leading five nominations from the CCTA.
    • Parks and Recreation: After winning the TCA Award for Best Comedy Series last year, the sitcom was dropped from the top race by both the TCA and CCTA.
    • Silicon Valley: Variably proclaimed in advance reviews as HBO’s best comedy in years, Silicon Valley was skunked by the TCA; however, it made a comeback at the CCTA, with three nominations.

    The biggest losers may have been former critics’ favorites Downton Abbey, Homeland and Mad Men, which were all shut out for the first time by the TCA, as well as the CCTA this year.  This follows first-ever goose eggs for Homeland and Mad Men at the most recent Golden Globes.  Mom, Orange is the New Black, Scandal and True Detective did well overall at these awards, but respective leads Anna Faris, Taylor Schilling, Kerry Washington and Woody Harrelson were left off by both groups.

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    Marcus, Tom, Charlie and I dished the critics’ nominations in a video chat:

    http://www.goldderby.com/news/6551/critics-choice-tca-awards-entertainment-news-4731926058.html

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