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  • Trent
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    This is meant to be a companion thread to the “Which shows are done?” thread.

    Lots of new shows premiere every year. Usually, they make a big dent in their first year (Modern Family) or are completely ignored (Community), which often sets a precedent for the rest of the show’s run.

    In 2012, I think the new show with the most nominations will be Homeland on the drama side and New Girl on the comedy side. Of the many shows that will be snubbed, I’m calling Person of Interest on the drama side and Enlightened on the “comedy” side.

    What say you? 

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    Jibril Gagale
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    There is no doubt that Homeland will be a huge player in next year’s awards, but if Smash delivers on its buzz or Luck improves on its pilot they could both end up making dents.

     

    On comedy, nothing really shines to me as a clear favorite.  New Girl comes closest at the moment, but the ensemble on Up All Night may be too much to deny.  Enlightened seems like the kind of show that could get some tech noms and an acting nom, like Episodes this past year and The Comeback in 2006.

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    “Luck” doesn’t have to improve on the incredible pilot. As long as they keep it at the same level, it’ll get in.

     

    I don’t think “The New Girl” is gonna be so big with the Emmys. And I can’t possibly see a way this show could be nominated for writing and directing, and I don’t any of the supporting actors have a chance. Besides Zooey Deschanel, casting and the theme, i don’t see this show getting in anywhere else.

     

    I think “2 Broke Girls” and “Up All Night” will be completely snubbed, and on the drama side, I don’t see “Alcatraz” getting any nominations (maybe techs, but that’s it).

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    I don’t think “The New Girl” is gonna be so big with the Emmys. And I can’t possibly see a way this show could be nominated for writing and directing, and I don’t any of the supporting actors have a chance. Besides Zooey Deschanel, casting and the theme, i don’t see this show getting in anywhere else.

     

    While this may very well be true it is incredibly deserving in Supporting Actor for Max Greenfield and Writing(a few episodes I would put in over any of the past Modern Family winners).

     

     

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    I have no doubt as others have stated that “Homeland” is going to be a huge show come Emmy time.   I am very curious about “Revenge”, it’s clearly a guilty pleasure soap, but has strong performances from a cast of solid actors. It has generally good writing and could fill a void left by shows like “Grey’s” and “Housewives” that have been dropped in recent years by Emmy.  I’d LOVE to see a nomination for Madeline Stowe who knocks it out of the park, and Emily Van Camp who is a stand-out for showing she has range.   I doubt Van Camp could get it, but Stowe would be very deserving.

     

    on the comedy side, I can’t think of any with much of a chance. Possibly, Maya Rudolph could get a supporting nod for “up all night”.

     

    New Girl is absoutley NOT getting any acting nods, and series is out of the question. Unless it improves in quality drastically it’s not being taken seriously.   

     

    “2 Broke Girls” is a possibility if they want to honor a traditonal comedy that hit big with viewers.  It could replace “Two and A Half Men” in that capacity.  

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    New Girl has been on fire the past couple of episodes.  It is a billion times better than 2 Broke Girls.

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    The problems with Luck is that it’s a “difficult”, slighty weird show, and of course it’s competing against two other HBO dramas. It really will depend on where it’s buzz is by the summer.

    New Girl is clearly a better show than 2 Broke Girls. The former, while still no where near superb, has become a consistently delightful sitcom. The latter is pathetic.

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    Even though it hasn’t premiered yet, I think Veep will be well received. We know Julia Louis-Dreyfus is practically a lock on name alone, and if the material is as good as Armando Ianucci is capable of, she’ll definitely get nominated, and perhaps he’ll get nominated for Writing for the pilot.  Too early to comment about the supporting cast, although Tony Hale is a big name.

    Formerly known in the forums as PianoMann.

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    on the comedy side, I can’t think of any with much of a chance. Possibly, Maya Rudolph could get a supporting nod for “up all night”.

     

    New Girl is absoutley NOT getting any acting nods, and series is out of the question. Unless it improves in quality drastically it’s not being taken seriously.   

     

    “2 Broke Girls” is a possibility if they want to honor a traditonal comedy that hit big with viewers.  It could replace “Two and A Half Men” in that capacity.  

     

    You really think 2 Broke Girls has a better chance than New Girl? I think most people (and critics) agree the latter show is much stronger. And has done better with getting award nominations (Golden Globes)

    If Emmy voters wanted to blindly honor a traditional comedy, then it’d be more likely they’d nominate Big Bang Theory again than 2 Broke Girls at this point.

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    Veep has a promising premise. It is based on a successful British series that later branched out into an Oscar-nominated film. Ricky Gervais’ Life’s Too Short could turn out to be great as well. If any shows have it in them to take down Modern Family at this point, that show has to be a new, heavily-buzzed show that hits the ground running.

    Early word on Smash is that it is a musical drama. In case it is up to snuff, I think it will fare much better in a comedy section. Category fraud or not, it will be a nail in Glee’s coffin.

    NBC seems to specially groom The Firm to rescue the network from its dismal ratings fiasco. The show’s thriller aspect could be the selling point of the show and make it go far beyond an average procedural. Emmy seems to love a legal drama well enough. Juliette Lewis playing the role that Holly Hunter got nominated at the Oscar for could be a contender in supporting actress, even though Holly Hunter was nominated for that role merely due to The Piano fever that year.

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    [quote=”Boidiva02″]

    on the comedy side, I can’t think of any with much of a chance. Possibly, Maya Rudolph could get a supporting nod for “up all night”.

     

    New Girl is absoutley NOT getting any acting nods, and series is out of the question. Unless it improves in quality drastically it’s not being taken seriously.   

     

    “2 Broke Girls” is a possibility if they want to honor a traditonal comedy that hit big with viewers.  It could replace “Two and A Half Men” in that capacity.  

     

    You really think 2 Broke Girls has a better chance than New Girl? I think most people (and critics) agree the latter show is much stronger. And has done better with getting award nominations (Golden Globes)

    If Emmy voters wanted to blindly honor a traditional comedy, then it’d be more likely they’d nominate Big Bang Theory again than 2 Broke Girls at this point.

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    Well, from what I gather, New Girl may be a bit too “silly” for some Emmy voters, they may not take it seriously. We can all agree it does often tip-toe further to the “over the top”/”annoying” than it should.       I also think the writing isn’t fleshed out very much yet.  

    I think “2 Broke Girls” which is a substanial hit could prove popular with voters.    In particular, Kat Dennings could be well liked, her performance is good.  I think Zooey Deschanle is a good actress; but she goes a bit too far sometimes.  I feel that may hurt it.  

    Yes, New Girl got some surprising Golden Globe nods, but I don’t see it reaping many Emmy nods yet. It would have to improve drastically for that to happen.

    With that said, it does have a solid supporting cast—- Max Greenfield is spectacular, and it has some good guest stars- Justin Long, Michaela Watkins both gave good performances, but as of now, i see little Emmy glory in it’s future, especially in such a crowded field. 

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    New Girl has been on fire the past couple of episodes.  It is a billion times better than 2 Broke Girls.

    I’ll conceed that point, but at what point has quality ever actually mattered to emmy voters? I remind you this is the same group that continued to nominated “Will & Grace” long after it had lost whatever spark it once had, and the same group that nominated Matt Le Blanc but failed to ever recognize Courtney Cox-Arquette.   The same group that has continually nominated “Two and A Half Men” despite never being funny and the same group that nominated “Scrubs” only twice for Best Comedy… see my point?

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    Homeland and, to a lesser extent, New Girl will make big dents in the Emmy race.

    As far as shows that will be completely ignored, fingers crossed for the total exclusion of Two Broke Girls. It doesn’t deserve to be near any type of awards, imo. 

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    A mainstream comedy has got to be acclaimed or popular or have a star in order to break into the Emmys. “2 Broke Girls” is not acclaimed, and its ratings are merely okay by CBS sitcom standards. The show has no appeal to Emmy voters. Not only is it terribly unfunny, but it doesn’t star any recoginzable faces (no face that voters would know). No buzz, no stars, bad show, okay ratings does not equal Emmys nods. It’s not happening.

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    [quote=”robbypop”]

    New Girl has been on fire the past couple of episodes.  It is a billion times better than 2 Broke Girls.

    I’ll conceed that point, but at what point has quality ever actually mattered to emmy voters? I remind you this is the same group that continued to nominated “Will & Grace” long after it had lost whatever spark it once had, and the same group that nominated Matt Le Blanc but failed to ever recognize Courtney Cox-Arquette.   The same group that has continually nominated “Two and A Half Men” despite never being funny and the same group that nominated “Scrubs” only twice for Best Comedy… see my point?[/quote]

    Well…that’s all your personal opinion. Not everyone shares those opinions. There isn’t a special mathematical equation that says one show is better than the other. 

    However, the plain truth is that more critics have liked New Girl more than 2 Broke Girls, and that’s the only thing we can go by right now. Neither of them have become critical hits, but most critics agree that New Girl shows more promise…and this is coming from someone who prefers 2 Broke Girls.

    It’s like when 30 Rock won for its first year. It had terrible ratings and Ugly Betty and the The Office has higher ratings. Or when Bryan Cranston beat Jon Hamm during their first year. Sometimes Emmy voters go for the lower rated show…So to say a show has better chance at getting nominated because it has higher ratings isn’t necessarily always true. If that were true then NCIS and American Idol would be dominating.

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