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    If Crazy Ex-Girlfriend was on Showtime/HBO then it would be guaranteed multiple major Emmy nominations when it will be lucky to get the one on The CW.

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    yeah, you can’t really consider anything on AMC or FX as being on a network that prevents it from getting the Emmys attention it “deserves.” Both networks have proven success with Emmys. In many ways, American Horror Story is a much harder Emmys sell than The Americans and yet…

    FX has only managed to crack the Drama Series lineup twice (Damages in 2008 and 2009). That’s not great success.

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    Drama:
    The Leftovers (HBO is probably the best network for it to be on…it still won’t receive nominations no matter what network it’s on)
    Unreal (we’ll see…)

    Comedy:

    Broad City
    You’re the Worst

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    Some of the shows people are mentioning probably wouldn’t have done much no matter the network or it’s a little more up for debate or they would have gotten like one acting nod. The two current shows that no doubt would have received quite a bit more love on a different network are Rectify and The Americans.

    Rectify is the perfect Emmy show. AMC f-ed up by shifting it to Sundance instead of picking it up themselves. They would actually have a horse in the race beyond BCS. I think The Americans has some other factors that has held it back, but being on FX is the biggest. Both of those shows would have gotten more than a handful of nominations throughout the years on different outlets. It’s borderline absurd that FX only has one drama to be nominated for series, and it’s not even one of their several best dramas.

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    Rectify strikes me as too noncommercial, so I did not list it in my top ten. The failure of The Leftovers despite HBO comes to mind.

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    Rectify may not be commercial (I don’t really see how being commercial has much to do with Emmy nods, especially nowadays). But it’s a pretty straight forward human condition drama with a lil suspense thrown in. It’s sentimental as hell but has enough “edge” and “grit”. Voters definitely would have bitten if it was AMC. It was acclaimed from the jump and isn’t a difficult show to appreciate watching a couple random episodes.

    The Leftovers started with mixed reviews (65 on Metacritic is not gonna get it done for a first season drama). That killed all its pre season hype. And it’s considered weird and “challenging” for people who don’t watch and actually from many who do watch. Even its biggest fans disliked the first half of season one, including myself. It was far too divisive to make any impression last year.

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    UnREAL, for sure.

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    UnREAL strikes me as something that could get into lead actress but probably not much beyond that no matter the network. Same thing with ‘Crazy Ex’.

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    Rectify has a vague crime connection, but it is mostly just focused on middle-class people in a small-town community working through personal issues. The plot progresses at a glacial pace, the tone is meditative and the first season was only six episodes. Its cast and crew are relative unknowns.

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    When did being slow or meditative or being focused on a family mean a show had little Emmy appeal? Since Mad Men’s departure there really isn’t any acclaimed dramas that don’t have plenty of plot. So, there’s not much to compare it to. But Rectify is an actor’s show, thematically straight forward, sentimental, “artistic”, serialized but pretty easy to get a handle of and fits well with AMC’s then brand. It appeals to voters’ classic sensibilities. The Leftovers does not. I just don’t see how the two are comparable. Rectify could easily be aligned with Mad Men, Six Feet Under, FNL, etc. Voters’ tastes haven’t changed all that much. The landscape of TV has however.

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    The two shows that came to mind for me were:
    * Bates Motel – apart from it’s Lead Actress nomination for season one I think this show would have performed better with nominations had it been on HBO or Showtime.
    * Nip/Tuck – the early seasons of this show deserved more recognition than it got. The show got some guest acting nominations but I think the main cast (Dylan Walsh, Julian McMahon and Joely Richardson) may have got in if the show was on HBO.

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    Jane the Virgin
    My Crazy Ex Girlfriend
    Horace and Pete (which I hope gets Emmy love due to Louie C.K.’s big push)

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    Mad Men seems to be the last of the ringleaders of the “meditative drama” Emmy circle – no other dramas that have the potential to be nominated this year really fit that category – minus Vinyl (LOL)

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    yeah, you can’t really consider anything on AMC or FX as being on a network that prevents it from getting the Emmys attention it “deserves.” Both networks have proven success with Emmys. In many ways, American Horror Story is a much harder Emmys sell than The Americans and yet…

    A bad comparison. A few acting nominations for Jessica Lange(and maybe a guest nom. for Bassett in S3) would all the AHS has gotten if it were competed in Drama series. It’s a show that couldn’t even get into Writing/Directing for 3 years for the sake of things like Hello Ladies, The Ring of Fire and many more low-profile contenders in the easier genre.

    In the same sense, The Americans would have easily been a perennial nominee in the Miniseries category. Obviously there is more awareness in the industry for The Americans than Sundance’s The Honourable Woman.

    FX has produced a lots of acclaimed dramas in the last decade or so.
    From The Shield to Justified, Sons of Anarchy, Nip/Tuck, Rescue Me, The Americans.
    It’s not a coincidence that the ones that have competed in the Miniseries category turned out to be the most Emmy nominated ones, though I think Fargo still would have gotten its fair share of nominations-maybe similar the ones that BCS got last year- not very sure about its Drama Series bid, though.

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    Maslany probably gets nominated before season three, but other than her OB wouldn’t make any impression. Farmiga maybe sticks around for an extra year or two, but BM’s not getting much love either. These just aren’t Emmy shows. Genre shows need to be substantial hits and/or critical favorites to do well at the Emmys. I don’t think being on HBO changes much of either of those shows’ fates.

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