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  • dsps84
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    Judith Light and Megan Mullally would have won with ease, right?

    Anthony Anderson had a funny tape, so it probably would have been him.

    I think Janney would have beaten Brosnahan.

    Something tells me King would have still won. Cumby would beat Criss.

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    JB
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    Under the tape system, I think it would’ve gone…

    Comedy Actor: Anthony Anderson
    Comedy Actress: Allison Janney
    Sup Actor: Titus Burgess
    Sup Actress: Megan Mullally

    Drama Actor: Matthew Rhys or Milo Ventimiglia
    Drama Actress: Elizabeth Moss
    Sup Actor: David Harbour
    Sup Actress: Yvonne Strahovski

    Movie/Mini Actor: Darren Criss
    Movie/Mini Actress: Regina King
    Sup Actor: Brandon Victor Dixon
    Sup Actress: Judith Light

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    Ivo Stoyanov
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    OMG, stop with the cliches… Burgess lost with the tape system, Tambor won with the tape system. Dinklage won for episode with less screentime and memorable moments for the first season Merritt Wever won with the tape system, Kyle Chandler won with the tape system, it was not that obvious. All the winners have great tapes, it is totally possible for all of them to have won with the tape system as well. .

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    Mukund
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    OMG, stop with the cliches… Burgess lost with the tape system, Tambor won with the tape system. Dinklage won for episode with less screentime and memorable moments for the first season Merritt Wever won with the tape system, Kyle Chandler won with the tape system, it was not that obvious. All the winners have great tapes, it is totally possible for all of them to have won with the tape system as well. .

    This ‘tape system’ has more or less become an excuse for people to dismiss the winners they don’t like. The people who love the old system so dearly now are the same people that were crying over lack of wins for people like Jon Hamm, Steve Carrell, Tatiana Maslany, Hugh Laurie etc.

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    Luca Giliberti
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    Drama Actress: Moss
    Drama Actor: Don’t know.
    Drama Supp. Actor: Dinklage
    Drama Supp. Actress: Dowd

    Limited Supp. Actress: Light
    Limited Supp. Actor: Wittrock

    FYC Oscars 2019: Viola Davis (Widows) - Best Actress

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    Diet Teridax
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    The ultimate no BS answer to this question for everyone here: “Whatever my favorite nominee was that didn’t win! Stoopid lazy Emmy voters for not having the same opinions on episode quality as me! Handmaid’s, Atlanta, or Will & Grace, they wuz all robbed!”

    😀 😉 Could. Not. Resist.

    For your Goldderby Film Awards consideration: Isle of Dogs for every category, especially Music Score for Alexandre Desplat!

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    Seriously, with those old small panels and preferential ballot I think Pamela Adlon would have sadly crushed Rachel Brosnahan. I loved Adlon and she would have been a worthy winner too, but Brosnahan’s win is a perfect example of why this new voting system is infinitely superior to what was before. Cultural impact and freshness are valued way more, with a larger body voting leading to more consensus picks, less undeserved repeats.

    Steve Carell would easily have won in a landslide for The Office’s final season. Perhaps Michael C. Hall would have won for Dexter Season 4 when the show was at its peak in Emmy recognition. So many lost opportunities for recognition of critically acclaimed and culturally buzzed shows and performances over the years…

    I still think Cranston would have won with that dynamite Breaking Bad Pilot under this current system as the definition of a passion pick. Alan Taylor would likely have won for the series premiere of Mad Men going along with the shows general sweep, rather than that House episode win confusing a lot of people, whether that was a worthy winner or not. Still, better they fixed that mess with this current system rather than letting so many more great TV years go to waste.

    Far too many of the “inspired” choices the Emmys used to make (Jeff Daniels for The Newsroom, Spader beating Gandolfini for The Sopranos’ final season, etc.) under the old system just made them look tasteless and irrelevant, out of touch with what was popular in the TV landscape. The “upsets” seen this year like Foy over Moss and Wiley over Rigg make sense at least, taking their submitted episodes and industry buzz into consideration.

    Call me crazy, but I think under this current voting system Twin Peaks might possibly have swept the Emmys for its first season over L.A. Law considering the buzz at the time, winning for MacLachlan (Sorry Columbo), Series, and most likely Directing for Lynch’s Pilot.

    You shouldn’t need to be in a popular show in order to win an acting Emmy. Baskets, Orphan Black, Seven Seconds, all won acting Emmys for their shows 1 and only nomination. I could go on and on about how much more progressive and efficient the results of this new system are, but that would take all night so I will stop now.

    For your Goldderby Film Awards consideration: Isle of Dogs for every category, especially Music Score for Alexandre Desplat!

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    AayaanUpadhyaya
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    Seriously, with those old small panels and preferential ballot I think Pamela Adlon would have sadly crushed Rachel Brosnahan. I loved Adlon and she would have been a worthy winner too, but Brosnahan’s win is a perfect example of why this new voting system is infinitely superior to what was before. Cultural impact and freshness are valued way more, with a larger body voting leading to more consensus picks, less undeserved repeats.

    Steve Carell would easily have won in a landslide for The Office’s final season. Perhaps Michael C. Hall would have won for Dexter Season 4 when the show was at its peak in Emmy recognition. So many lost opportunities for recognition of critically acclaimed and culturally buzzed shows and performances over the years…

    I still think Cranston would have won with that dynamite Breaking Bad Pilot under this current system as the definition of a passion pick. Alan Taylor would likely have won for the series premiere of Mad Men going along with the shows general sweep, rather than that House episode win confusing a lot of people, whether that was a worthy winner or not. Still, better they fixed that mess with this current system rather than letting so many more great TV years go to waste.

    Far too many of the “inspired” choices the Emmys used to make (Jeff Daniels for The Newsroom, Spader beating Gandolfini for The Sopranos’ final season, etc.) under the old system just made them look tasteless and irrelevant, out of touch with what was popular in the TV landscape. The “upsets” seen this year like Foy over Moss and Wiley over Rigg make sense at least, taking their submitted episodes and industry buzz into consideration.

    Call me crazy, but I think under this current voting system Twin Peaks might possibly have swept the Emmys for its first season over L.A. Law considering the buzz at the time, winning for MacLachlan (Sorry Columbo), Series, and most likely Directing for Lynch’s Pilot.

    You shouldn’t need to be in a popular show in order to win an acting Emmy. Baskets, Orphan Black, Seven Seconds, all won acting Emmys for their shows 1 and only nomination. I could go on and on about how much more progressive and efficient the results of this new system are, but that would take all night so I will stop now.

    To add to this, any system that rewarded Ty Burrel over Jesse Tyler Ferguson for Message Received in 2014, in a system that allegedly had episodes mattering (LOL) is a system I’m glad we don’t see anymore.

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    Diet Teridax
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    Seriously, with those old small panels and preferential ballot I think Pamela Adlon would have sadly crushed Rachel Brosnahan. I loved Adlon and she would have been a worthy winner too, but Brosnahan’s win is a perfect example of why this new voting system is infinitely superior to what was before. Cultural impact and freshness are valued way more, with a larger body voting leading to more consensus picks, less undeserved repeats.

    Steve Carell would easily have won in a landslide for The Office’s final season. Perhaps Michael C. Hall would have won for Dexter Season 4 when the show was at its peak in Emmy recognition. So many lost opportunities for recognition of critically acclaimed and culturally buzzed shows and performances over the years…

    I still think Cranston would have won with that dynamite Breaking Bad Pilot under this current system as the definition of a passion pick. Alan Taylor would likely have won for the series premiere of Mad Men going along with the shows general sweep, rather than that House episode win confusing a lot of people, whether that was a worthy winner or not. Still, better they fixed that mess with this current system rather than letting so many more great TV years go to waste.

    Far too many of the “inspired” choices the Emmys used to make (Jeff Daniels for The Newsroom, Spader beating Gandolfini for The Sopranos’ final season, etc.) under the old system just made them look tasteless and irrelevant, out of touch with what was popular in the TV landscape. The “upsets” seen this year like Foy over Moss and Wiley over Rigg make sense at least, taking their submitted episodes and industry buzz into consideration.

    Call me crazy, but I think under this current voting system Twin Peaks might possibly have swept the Emmys for its first season over L.A. Law considering the buzz at the time, winning for MacLachlan (Sorry Columbo), Series, and most likely Directing for Lynch’s Pilot.

    You shouldn’t need to be in a popular show in order to win an acting Emmy. Baskets, Orphan Black, Seven Seconds, all won acting Emmys for their shows 1 and only nomination. I could go on and on about how much more progressive and efficient the results of this new system are, but that would take all night so I will stop now.

    To add to this, any system that rewarded Ty Burrel over Jesse Tyler Ferguson for Message Received in 2014, in a system that allegedly had episodes mattering (LOL) is a system I’m glad we don’t see anymore.

    I will never get over this! I’m not saying that random small panel had a subtle homophobic streak that year with the actually gay in real life Jesse Tyler Ferguson losing for an episode that actually focused on his gay character wanting to get married but… Bomer’s loss (again a gay actor playing a gay character whose homosexuality is relevant to the story) for The Normal Heart doesn’t look good either. If Freeman had won for Fargo instead of Sherlock that would have been great. I really love Sherlock, but there is no reason in the world that should have been its big Emmy year. 2014 is still my pick for “Worst Emmys Ever” in regards to winners for so many different valid reasons. I think there is a small chance that even with that long tracking shot in True Detective, that under this current system sentimentality (plus many would argue merit) would have given Vince Gilligan the first Directing win for Breaking Bad for the series finale of that show. Just a hunch.

    For your Goldderby Film Awards consideration: Isle of Dogs for every category, especially Music Score for Alexandre Desplat!

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    Diet Teridax
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    OMG, stop with the cliches… Burgess lost with the tape system, Tambor won with the tape system. Dinklage won for episode with less screentime and memorable moments for the first season Merritt Wever won with the tape system, Kyle Chandler won with the tape system, it was not that obvious. All the winners have great tapes, it is totally possible for all of them to have won with the tape system as well. .

    This ‘tape system’ has more or less become an excuse for people to dismiss the winners they don’t like. The people who love the old system so dearly now are the same people that were crying over lack of wins for people like Jon Hamm, Steve Carrell, Tatiana Maslany, Hugh Laurie etc.

    This new system is as perfect in regards to awarding popularity and quality as it gets and I think clearly has done far more good than bad, with the couple Martindale wins being the only WTF ones, but even then she was always great as “Claudia” on The Americans, even if she didn’t deserve wins for those specific cameo appearances, so it isn’t like they awarded an untalented actress in a mediocre role.

    For your Goldderby Film Awards consideration: Isle of Dogs for every category, especially Music Score for Alexandre Desplat!

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    Ivo Stoyanov
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    OMG, stop with the cliches… Burgess lost with the tape system, Tambor won with the tape system. Dinklage won for episode with less screentime and memorable moments for the first season Merritt Wever won with the tape system, Kyle Chandler won with the tape system, it was not that obvious. All the winners have great tapes, it is totally possible for all of them to have won with the tape system as well. .

    This ‘tape system’ has more or less become an excuse for people to dismiss the winners they don’t like. The people who love the old system so dearly now are the same people that were crying over lack of wins for people like Jon Hamm, Steve Carrell, Tatiana Maslany, Hugh Laurie etc.

    Totally, and they are really bad at hiding it.

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    People can bitch about the tape system all they want but at least we knew the voters were watching the things they were voting on. Nowadays we can’t even say that, which demeans the awards a lot. I mean Regina King is incredible in Seven Seconds but how many of those who picked her to win actually watched it?

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    Diet Teridax
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    People can bitch about the tape system all they want but at least we knew the voters were watching the things they were voting on. Nowadays we can’t even say that, which demeans the awards a lot. I mean Regina King is incredible in Seven Seconds but how many of those who picked her to win actually watched it?

    I think judging by all the people like Avichristians and if I recall correctly Hunter-ish who praised Regina King’s actual performance, she certainly had quite a lot of fans for her work in Seven Seconds and likely won as a pure passion vote kind of thing. The fact she lost to Dern for her work in the BLL juggernaut last year is proof they won’t mindlessly award King for just anything. You might not have found King the best but that doesn’t mean Emmy voters who saw her performance felt the same.

    “At least we knew the voters were watching the things they were voting on.” Ellen Burstyn’s 14-second Emmy nominated “performance” for the TV Movie Mrs. Harris begs to differ. Actually, with a popular vote there will more likely be a more informed voting body that has seen more shows simply due to there being a larger quantity of people, rather than the old system of some randomly selected small panel of about 75 people with their own subjective biases and sentiments having nothing to do with the episodes themselves.

    For your Goldderby Film Awards consideration: Isle of Dogs for every category, especially Music Score for Alexandre Desplat!

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    Mukund
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    People can bitch about the tape system all they want but at least we knew the voters were watching the things they were voting on. Nowadays we can’t even say that, which demeans the awards a lot. I mean Regina King is incredible in Seven Seconds but how many of those who picked her to win actually watched it?

    How do you know they didn’t watch it? I’ve heard Regina King was great in it, so it’s not like they gave a mediocre performance a win.

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    Diet Teridax
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    People can bitch about the tape system all they want but at least we knew the voters were watching the things they were voting on. Nowadays we can’t even say that, which demeans the awards a lot. I mean Regina King is incredible in Seven Seconds but how many of those who picked her to win actually watched it?

    How do you know they didn’t watch it? I’ve heard Regina King was great in it, so it’s not like they gave a mediocre performance a win.

    Because Regina King is not Michelle Dockery in her fave Godless. That’s how you “know” they didn’t watch it. There, I said it. Sorry it that’s too blunt, but it felt good to just state the truth without any sugarcoating.

    For your Goldderby Film Awards consideration: Isle of Dogs for every category, especially Music Score for Alexandre Desplat!

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