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    Emil Petrov
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    OK, I found season 3 of Stranger Things to be amazing and much better than Season 2, yet it is under performing at the guilds. Yes, it got at SAG, but it missed on WGA, PGA and DGA.

    Why the negative reception on the season?

    On Gold Derby I see only David Harbour as possible main category nominee. Why? Millie Bobby was amazing this season, and the directing was top noch!

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    I think people are growing tired of the concept; it’s the same concept every season now: the danger approaches, there’s hell, there’s tragedy and finally there’s a time jump. Personally, I adored season 3, but even I will admit that the beginning sucked. The romance plot is probably the worst storyline they’ve ever done and both Brown and Wolfhard were awful, which isn’t their fault at all. I also think that compared to all these “serious” shows, Stranger Things – a show about teens chasing monsters in the 80s – starts to pale. The first season was nostalgic for many people, but nostalgia isn’t going to keep you hooked forever.

    I agree that directing and Harbour should be locks, as should all tech categories, but MBB just doesn’t deserve it in this field. She was great in the finale, but she’s nowhere near these other predicted gals.

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    To be honest, it has kind of lost its “cool factor.” The novelty of having such a high-concept kid-focused show is wearing off as the kids are more teenagers now. As the budget has gotten higher, the Duffer brothers have focused less and less on what made it popular in the first place, the shadowy small-town mystery (with the lower budget that made it feel more like the 80s movies it was emulating). It’s not their fault, but the flashier the effects become and the bigger monsters they can create, the more it feels like a by-the-numbers sci-fi drama. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the most popular character and the one that awards bodies have gravitated most towards has been Hopper, by far the one who is most grounded to the “real world” in the show. And none of this will be helped by the fact that the story seems to be mostly leaving Hawkins next season.

    There are a lot of reasons that ST has kind of lost its exciting-ness, and none are really the fault of the creators or anyone involved, but the more the scope widens, the less people seem to be interested.

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    A big factor is timing. A July debut is good for literally no awards if you’re an old show. If it had debuted in October as previously it would have done better with the guilds and if it landed in May this year there would be no way it missed at the Emmys. The general public adore the show but the critics don’t and at the end of the day you need journalists to keep talking about you if you’re to be seen as worthy months after you’ve aired when you’re not a hip, new thing anymore.

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    I agree the show has lost its it factor, no longer a buzzed must see and it doesn’t have the prestigious quality of The Crown.

    It’s a shame, because I felt that this season the show came into its own more than ever. The first season was derivative of countless productions and the second season was derivative of the first, but the third was more original and explored growing up in a surprisingly mature way. Silly, melodramatic relationship drama, trips to the mall, Joe Keery and Maya Hawke being great, and some more upbeat stuff for Millie Bobby Brown and Winona Ryder were all nice, but Robin’s coming out and Will being abandoned by his friends were strikingly effective bits of drama. Also they underused Noah Schnapp but he still gave my favorite performance

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    How do you all see this seasons chances to get into Best Drama?

    Here how I see nominations in all categories:

    LOCKS:
    Visual Effects
    Production Design
    Sound Editing
    Sound Mixing

    STRONG:
    Music Supervision
    Hair styling
    Prosthetic Makeup
    Picture Editing
    Cinematography
    Supporting Actor: Harbour
    Drama Casting

    TOUGH BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE:
    Drama Series
    Drama Directing
    Drama Writing
    Supporting Actress: Brown

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    To be honest, it has kind of lost its “cool factor.” The novelty of having such a high-concept kid-focused show is wearing off as the kids are more teenagers now. As the budget has gotten higher, the Duffer brothers have focused less and less on what made it popular in the first place, the shadowy small-town mystery (with the lower budget that made it feel more like the 80s movies it was emulating). It’s not their fault, but the flashier the effects become and the bigger monsters they can create, the more it feels like a by-the-numbers sci-fi drama. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the most popular character and the one that awards bodies have gravitated most towards has been Hopper, by far the one who is most grounded to the “real world” in the show. And none of this will be helped by the fact that the story seems to be mostly leaving Hawkins next season. There are a lot of reasons that ST has kind of lost its exciting-ness, and none are really the fault of the creators or anyone involved, but the more the scope widens, the less people seem to be interested.

    THIS. Watching S3 was like watching a Marvel movie, enjoyable but nothing out of the box or amazing. Lack of emotional/dramatic scenes really ruined this season for me. The only thing happened in this season was fighting against the monster and that’s it. Also, I felt like I was watching the kid  actors portraying themselves in real life and not their characters. I don’t see that innocence on their faces anymore.

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    Here how I see nominations in all categories: LOCKS: Visual Effects Production Design Sound Editing Sound Mixing

    I think Stranger Things is easily missing Production Design. S2 was snubbed at the Emmys and the recent season was dropped by the guilds as well. Currently predicting:

    The Crown
    Hollywood
    The Mandalorian
    The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
    Westworld

    There is also The Man in the High Castle which has been nominated for all past three seasons and Mrs America.

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    Even David Harbour is far for granted. Considering his recent mouth disease to badmouthing fans of “Hellboy” and the “cool factor” lost… Also, supporting actor tends to be linked with the series, unless there’s a hierarchy (Jon Voight, Mandy Patinkin), usually defended by Showtime.

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    I agree that timing seems to have hurt this show the most. It was dropped on Netflix over the 4th of July weekend and binged and forgotten all at that time. I know that dropping a whole season is the way most shows are going, but to me it really does nothing for awards chances and maintaining buzz. I look at the Mandalorian, which DIDN’T drop all at once and was able to capitalize off weekly popularity for several months. Maybe shows should go back to that? Or find a balance?

    I also agree that awards bodies rarely respect art focused on the youth, so I’m not surprised this wasn’t a guild interest.

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    Part of it is because the show is becoming bigger in ways that aren’t necessarily a good thing. The show started out as a show centered around a small group of kids (and a few adults) who we came to love who found themselves in a very strange situation. I think part of the issue is that seasons 2 and 3 introduced more major characters in a show that already has so many characters and the show is feeling less and less like an authentic show that could have been made in the 80s but instead a show from now that’s trying to imitate the 80s. The actors are also all now teenagers and so are the main kids who are now teenagers too. The show has lost the sentimental quality that it used to have and the characters that we love are now losing screen time, at least in my opinion.

    I myself enjoyed season 1 but I felt like season 2 was just the same thing, though I enjoyed it but less than I did before, and season 3 I enjoyed but less than the previous two seasons. Looking back I feel like all three seasons have been the same story over and over with no real progression and it’s worrying because I think the show started out great.

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