May 12, 2022 at 12:58 pm #1204950271
CBS drops Magnum, P.I. after 4 seasons, United States of Al, B-Positive, How We Roll and Good Sam.
ABC says bye to its Girls5Eva knockoff Queens, Promised Land.
CW ditches Dynasty, Charmed, Naomi, In The Dark and Roswell, NM
NBC cancels Mr. Mayor, Kenan, The Endgame.
https://deadline.com/category/cancellations/ReplyMay 12, 2022 at 4:12 pm #1204950445
Legacies is done as well at the SeeDub. The Vampire Diaries has now been completely shown the door. Also, The 4400 reboot is one and done.ReplyCopy URL
kat_ebbsJoined:Jun 10th, 2021Topics:Posts:May 12, 2022 at 11:03 pm #1204950730
Also Dollface over at Hulu a few days ago (a show I like a lot but was too niche and not really promoted very well)ReplyCopy URL
braydenfitzsimmonsJoined:May 3rd, 2015Topics:Posts:May 13, 2022 at 12:45 am #1204950753
Also Dollface over at Hulu a few days ago (a show I like a lot but was too niche and not really promoted very well)
I only knew it existed when every news article / viral social post discussed how the show was where Macully Culkin and Brenda Song met, after their first child was born last year.ReplyCopy URL
kat_ebbsJoined:Jun 10th, 2021Topics:Posts:May 13, 2022 at 2:02 am #1204950792
I only knew it existed when every news article / viral social post discussed how the show was where Macully Culkin and Brenda Song met, after their first child was born last year.
Culkin has a great guest spot on it.
It’s a little hyperspecific in its premise but Jordan Weiss, the creator, is definitely one to watch (she’s only in her 20s ). I don’t know that Hulu was the best spot for it, it’s pretty young-leaning. It would almost certainly have found an audience at Netflix.ReplyCopy URLMay 13, 2022 at 6:06 pm #1204951402
Fox wraps up the big four cancellation list, bidding bye to Our Kind of People and Pivoting.
Upfronts schedule:ReplyCopy URL
Monday: NBC/Universal, Fox
Thursday: Warner Brothers Discovery
Next Friday: The CWMay 16, 2022 at 7:31 am #1204953665
NBC goes first.
8-10 PM — The Voice
10-11 PM — QUANTUM LEAP
8-9 PM — The Voice
9-10 PM — La Brea
10-11 PM — New Amsterdam
8-9 PM — Chicago Med
9-10 PM — Chicago Fire
10-11 PM — Chicago P.D.
8-9 PM — Law & Order
9-10 PM — Law & Order: SVU
10-11 PM — Law & Order: Organized Crime
8-9 PM – Capital One College Bowl (until November)
8-8:30 PM – LOPEZ VS. LOPEZ (November)
8:30-9 PM – Young Rock (November)
9-11 PM — Dateline NBC
8-9 PM — Drama Encores
9-10 PM — Dateline Weekend Mystery
10-11 PM – SNL Vintage
7-8:20 PM — Football Night in America
8:20-11 PM — Sunday Night Football
LOPEZ VS. LOPEZ — A working-class family comedy about dysfunction, reconnection and all the pain and joy in between. The cast includes George Lopez, Mayan Lopez, Selenis Leyva, Brice Gonzalez and Matt Shively.
QUANTUM LEAP — It’s been 30 years since Dr. Sam Beckett stepped into the Quantum Leap accelerator and vanished. Now a new team has been assembled to restart the project in the hopes of understanding the mysteries behind the machine and the man who created it. The cast includes Raymond Lee, Caitlin Bassett, Ernie Hudson, Mason Alexander Park, and Nanrisa Lee.
Unscripted on indefinite hold: AGT: Extreme, Making It, Family Game Night.
Midseason (Q1 2023): The Blacklist, American Auto, Grand Crew, NIGHT COURT, THE WHEEL, MILLION DOLLAR ISLAND, That’s My Jam, The Wall, Dick Wolf’s LA FIRE AND RESCUE (a reality series about the LAFD)ReplyCopy URLMay 16, 2022 at 7:42 am #1204953668
Fox schedule announcement of what goes where, delayed indefinitely (!):
FOX’s full 2022-2023 programming slate:
Dramas: 9-1-1: LONE STAR, ACCUSED, ALERT, THE CLEANING LADY, FANTASY ISLAND, MONARCH;
Comedies: BOB’S BURGERS, CALL ME KAT, FAMILY GUY, THE GREAT NORTH, GRIMSBURG, HOUSEBROKEN, KRAPOPOLIS, THE SIMPSONS, WELCOME TO FLATCH;
Unscripted: BEAT SHAZAM, CRIME SCENE KITCHEN, DON’T FORGET THE LYRICS!, GORDON RAMSAY’S FOOD STARS, HELL’S KITCHEN, LEGO MASTERS, THE MASKED SINGER, MASTERCHEF, NEXT LEVEL CHEF, SO YOU THINK YOU CAN DANCE.
MONARCH: A Texas-sized, multi-generational musical drama about America’s first family of country music, the Romans. They’re headed by the insanely talented, but tough as nails Queen of Country Music DOTTIE CANTRELL ROMAN (Susan Sarandon) and beloved husband, “The Texas Truthteller” ALBIE ROMAN (Trace Adkins). Dottie and Albie have created a country music dynasty. But even though the Roman name is synonymous with authenticity, the very foundation of their success is a lie. And when their reign as country royalty is put in jeopardy, heir to the crown NICOLETTE “NICKY” ROMAN (Anna Friel) will stop at nothing to protect her family’s legacy, while ensuring her own quest for stardom.
ACCUSED: Based on the BBC’s BAFTA-winning British crime anthology, comes a provocative series that takes you on the journey of the defendant. Each episode opens in a courtroom on the accused, with viewers knowing nothing about their crime or how they ended up on trial. Told from the defendant’s point of view through flashbacks, ACCUSED holds a mirror up to the current times with evocative and emotional stories. In ACCUSED, viewers discover how an ordinary person gets caught up in an extraordinary situation, ultimately revealing how one wrong turn leads to another, until it’s too late to turn back.
ALERT: A character-driven police procedural about the LAMPU – the Los Angeles Police Department’s missing person’s unit. When police officer Nikki Parker’s son goes missing, she joins the LAPD’s Missing Person’s Unit to help other people find their loved ones, even as she searches for her own. Six years later, her world is turned upside-down when her ex-husband, Devon Zoellner, shows up with a proof-of-life photo of their missing boy. Or is it? ALERT is a procedural drama with a heart-pounding, life-or-death search for a missing person in each episode, that runs alongside Nikki and Devon’s quest to find out the truth about the person claiming to be their long-lost son. It’s a case-of-the-week show with a case-of-a-lifetime story running through it – a story that alternately brings our two main characters gut-wrenching heartache and heart-pounding joy.
GRIMSBURG: Marvin Flute (Jon Hamm) may be the greatest detective ever to catch a cannibal clown or correctly identify a mid-century modern armoire. But there’s one mystery he still can’t crack – his family. Now that he’s back in Grimsburg, a town where everyone has a secret or three, Flute will follow every lead he’s got to redeem himself with the ex-wife he never stopped loving, even if it means hanging out with the son he never bothered to get to know.
KRAPOPOLIS: Set in mythical Ancient Greece, the animated series centers on a flawed family of humans, gods and monsters that tries to run one of the world’s first cities without killing each other. The series’ voice cast features Hannah Waddingham, Richard Ayoade, Matt Berry, Pam Murphy and Duncan Trussell In the series, Ayoade voices “Tyrannis”, the mortal son of a goddess. He’s the benevolent King of Krapopolis trying to make do in a city that lives up to its name. Waddingham plays “Deliria,” Tyrannis’ mother, goddess of self-destruction and questionable choices. Within her extended Olympian family – forged in patricide and infidelity – she’s known as the trashy one. Berry is “Shlub,” Tyrannis’ father, a mantitaur (half centaur [horse + human], half manticore [lion + human + scorpion]). He is oversexed and underemployed, claims to be an artist and has literally never paid for anything, in any sense of that word, for his entire life. Murphy voices “Stupendous,” Tyrannis’ half-sister, daughter of Deliria and a cyclops. Trussell plays “Hippocampus,” Tyrannis’ half-brother, offspring of Shlub and a mermaid, and, obviously, a hot mess, biologically speaking.
GORDON RAMSAY’S FOOD STARS: This time, he’s prepared to put his money where his mouth is, by backing the winner with an investment to take their idea to the next level. But to win Ramsay’s support, it will take more than just a great idea. As he pushes contestants to their limits through a series of relentless challenges, they’ll have to prove they possess the raw ingredients required to succeed – drive, dedication, creativity, passion and talent. Being the last entrepreneur standing will earn the winner a life-changing reward. They just need to survive Ramsay – the only angel investor.May 16, 2022 at 10:44 am #1204953830
Since Fox airs Super Bowl 57 next February, they opted to give Next Level Chef the post-SB timeslot.ReplyCopy URLMay 16, 2022 at 2:56 pm #1204954012
Fox today renewed 911 and The Resident:
The two shows and Fox tried to reach a deal by the time the upfront presentation was finalized, but were not successful until today. Per Deadline: “Fox and 911, 911: Lone Star and The Resident are no longer part of the same company following the studio’s acquisition by Disney. The financials of the deals changed, with a myriad of factors to consider, including Fox’s deal with Hulu, which is coming up.”ReplyCopy URL
helv606Joined:Jul 11th, 2013Topics:Posts:May 16, 2022 at 3:15 pm #1204954043
Fox wraps up the big four cancellation list, bidding bye to Our Kind of People and Pivoting.
Monday: NBC/Universal, Fox
Thursday: Warner Brothers Discovery
Next Friday: The CW
Warner Bros Discovery Wed morning
Paramount/CBS Wed afternoon
The CW Thursday morningReplyCopy URLMay 17, 2022 at 10:17 am #1204954782
ABC up to the plate. Wonder Years, A Million Little Things held until midseason:
8 PM — Bachelor in Paradise
10 PM — The Good Doctor
8 PM — Bachelor in Paradise
10 PM — THE ROOKIE: FEDS
8 PM — The Conners
8:30 PM– The Goldbergs
9 PM — Abbott Elementary (new night)
9:30 PM — Home Economics
10 PM — Big Sky (new night)
8 PM — Station 19
9 PM — Grey’s Anatomy
10 PM — ALASKA
8 PM — Shark Tank
9-11 PM — 20/20
8 PM College Football
7 PM — America’s Funniest Home Videos
8 PM — CELEBRITY JEOPARDY!
9 PM — Celebrity Wheel of Fortune
10 PM — The Rookie
ALASKA: “Alaska” stars Hilary Swank as Eileen Fitzgerald, a recently disgraced reporter who leaves her high-profile New York life behind to join a daily metro newspaper in Anchorage on a journey to find both personal and professional redemption. Alongside Swank, “Alaska” stars Jeff Perry as Stanley Cornik, Matt Malloy as Bob Young, Meredith Holzman as Claire Muncy, Grace Dove as Rosalind “Roz” Friendly, Pablo Castelblanco as Gabriel Martin, Ami Park as Jieun Park and Craig Frank as Austin Greene.
THE ROOKIE: FEDS: From the executive producers of flagship series “The Rookie” comes “The Rookie: Feds” starring Niecy Nash-Betts as Simone Clark, the oldest rookie in the FBI Academy. The spinoff was introduced as a two-part event during the current fourth season of “The Rookie,” where Officer John Nolan (Nathan Fillion) and the LA division of the FBI enlist the help of Simone Clark when one of her former students is a suspect in a terror attack. “The Rookie: Feds” stars Niecy Nash-Betts as Simone Clark, Frankie Faison as Christopher “Cutty” Clark and Felix Solis as Special Agent Matthew Garza.
NEW MIDSEASON COMEDYReplyCopy URL
NOT DEAD YET: “Not Dead Yet” follows Nell Stevens (Gina Rodriguez), a broke and newly single self-described disaster, working to restart the life and career she left behind 10 years ago. When she lands the only job she can find – writing obituaries, Nell starts getting life advice from an unlikely source. The series is adapted from the book “Confessions of a 40-something F**k Up” by Alexandra Potter.May 18, 2022 at 8:30 am #1204955579
Breaking; CBS jumps the gun and announces its fall slate in just the last hour.
Held for midseason: LINGO (RuPaul hosted game show), Secret Celebrity Renovation, SUPERFAN, Tough as Nails, TRUE LIES. (new shows in caps)
8-8:30 PM — The Neighborhood
8:30-9 PM — Bob Hearts Abishola
9-10 PM — NCIS
10-11 PM — NCIS: Hawai`i
8-9 PM — FBI
9-10 PM — FBI: International
10-11 PM– FBI: Most Wanted
8-9 PM — Survivor
9-10 PM — The Amazing Race
10-11 PM –THE REAL LOVE BOAT
8-8:30 PM — Young Sheldon
8:30-9 PM — Ghosts (new time)
9-10 PM — SO HELP ME TODD
10-11 PM — CSI: Vegas (new time)
8-9 PM — S.W.A.T. (new time)
9-10 PM — FIRE COUNTRY
10-11 PM — Blue Bloods
8-10 PM — Saturday Encores
10-11 PM — 48 Hours
7-8 PM — 60 Minutes
8-9 PM — The Equalizer
9-10 PM — EAST NEW YORK
10-11 PM — NCIS: Los Angeles (new time)
NEW FALL DRAMAS
SO HELP ME TODD: The series stars Marcia Gay Harden and Skylar Astin as razor-sharp, meticulous attorney Margaret Wright (Harden) and Todd (Astin), her talented but scruffy, aimless son whom she hires as her law firm’s in-house investigator. As the black sheep of the well-heeled Wright family, Todd is a laid-back, quick-thinking, excellent former private detective who fell on hard times after his flexible interpretation of the law got his license revoked. Margaret’s penchant for excellence and strict adherence to the law is at complete odds with Todd’s scrappy methods of finding his way through sticky situations: by the seat of his wrinkled pants. When Todd inadvertently teams with his mother on a case, she’s surprised to find herself duly impressed by – and proud of – his crafty ability to sleuth out information with his charm and his wide-ranging tech savvy. At last, Margaret sees a way to put her son on a “suitable” path to living an adult, financially solvent life she approves of, and she asks him to join her firm. Todd agrees, since it means getting his license back and once again doing the job he excels at and loves. Mother and son working together is a big first step toward mending their fragile, dysfunctional relationship, and they may even come away with a better understanding of each other at this pivotal point in their lives. But whether Todd and Margaret will be able to accept each other for who they are is another case entirely. SO HELP ME TODD stars Harden, Astin, Madeline Wise, Tristen J. Winger, Inga Schlingmann, and Rosa Arredondo.
FIRE COUNTRY: The series stars Max Thieriot as Bode Donovan, a young convict seeking redemption and a shortened prison sentence by joining an unconventional prison release firefighting program in Northern California, where he and other inmates are partnered with elite firefighters to extinguish massive, unpredictable wildfires across the region. It’s a high-risk, high-reward assignment, and the heat is turned up when Bode is assigned to the program in his rural hometown, where he was once a golden all-American son until his troubles began. Five years ago, Bode burned down everything in his life, leaving town with a big secret. Now he’s back, with the rap sheet of a criminal and the audacity to believe in a chance for redemption with Cal Fire. Inspired by his experiences growing up in Northern California fire country. FIRE COUNTRY stars Thieriot, Billy Burke, Kevin Alejandro, Diane Farr, Stephanie Arcila, Jordan Calloway, and Jules Latimer.
EAST NEW YORK
From executive producers of “NYPD Blue,” EAST NEW YORK stars Amanda Warren as Deputy Inspector Regina Haywood, the newly promoted boss of the 74th Precinct in East New York – a working-class neighborhood on the edge of Brooklyn in the midst of social upheaval and the early seeds of gentrification. With family ties to the area, Haywood is determined to deploy creative methods to protect her beloved community with the help of her officers and detectives. But first, she has the daunting task of getting them on board, as some are skeptical of her promotion, and others resist the changes she is desperate to make. Her team includes her mentor, shrewd veteran two-star Chief John Suarez (Jimmy Smits); Marvin Sandeford (Ruben Santiago-Hudson), a highly respected training officer and expert on the neighborhood; Tommy Killian (Kevin Rankin), a detective with some old-school approaches to policing; Capt. Stan Yenko (Richard Kind), Haywood’s gregarious and efficient right hand; Crystal Morales (Elizabeth Rodriguez), an intuitive detective who can’t be intimidated; Andre Bentley (Lavel Schley), a trainee from an upper middle-class background; and ambitious patrol officer Brandy Quinlan (Olivia Luccardi), the sole volunteer to live in a local housing project as part of Haywood’s plan to bridge the gap between police and community. Regina Haywood has a vision: she and the squad of the 74th Precinct will not only serve their community – they’ll also become part of it.
NEW UNSCRIPTED SERIES
THE REAL LOVE BOAT: The new reality romance adventure, inspired by the classic hit scripted series “The Love Boat,” sets sail on Princess Cruises in 2022. THE REAL LOVE BOAT brings singles together to travel the Mediterranean on a luxury cruise ship while looking for love. Destination dates, challenges and surprise singles will test the couples’ compatibility and chemistry. Like the beloved original scripted series, the indispensable crew members, including “captain” and “cruise director,” who will be selected from actual Princess crew members, will play pivotal roles in the matchmaking and navigation of the romantic (and sometimes turbulent) waters ahead. After almost a month at sea, only one winning couple will make it to the final port and take home a cash prize plus a once-in-a-lifetime trip courtesy of Princess Cruises, the series’ exclusive cruise line partner.ReplyCopy URLMay 19, 2022 at 6:27 am #1204956629
The CW ends the broadcast network upfronts, and Riverdale itself will end after 7 seasons. Held until midseason (Q1 2023): The Flash, Riverdale, Gotham Knights, Masters of Illusion, Nancy Drew, Recipe for Disaster, Superman & Lois
8 pm All American
9 pm All American: Homecoming
8 pm THE WINCHESTERS
9 pm PROFESSIONALS
8 pm DC’s Stargirl (new night)
9 pm Kung Fu
8 pm Walker
9 pm WALKER INDEPENDENCE
8 pm Penn & Teller: Fool Us
9 pm Whose Line Is It Anyway?
9:30 pm Whose Line Is It Anyway?
8 pm MAGIC WITH THE STARS
9 pm World’s Funniest Animals
9:30 pm World’s Funniest Animals
8 pm FAMILY LAW
9 pm Coroner (new night)
THE WINCHESTERS: This is the epic, untold love story of how John Winchester (Drake Rodger) met Mary Campbell (Meg Donnelly) and put it all on the line to not only save their love, but the entire world. When John returns home from fighting in Vietnam, a mysterious encounter sparks a new mission to trace his father’s past. In his journey, he crosses paths with 19-year-old demon hunter Mary, who is also searching for answers after the disappearance of her own father. Together, the two join forces with young hunter-in-training Latika (Nida Khurshid) and easygoing hunter Carlos (Jonathan “Jojo” Fleites) to uncover the hidden truths about both their families. Their investigation leads them to a rare book emporium, whose owner Ada (Demetria McKinney) takes an interest to the occult and could provide the missing pieces to their puzzle. But secrets run deep for both the Winchesters and Campbells, and despite the best efforts of John’s mother Millie (Bianca Kajlich) to protect her son from pursuing a dangerous life of demon hunting, John and Mary are both determined to work together to uphold their families’ legacies while beginning to form a family of their own.
PROFESSIONALS: This series follows Vincent Corbo (Tom Welling), a top-tier security operative who is paid to protect the interests of rich and powerful clients by any means necessary – legal or not. After a next-gen medical-data satellite explodes on launch, Corbo is hired by the rocket’s designer, billionaire futurist Peter Swann (Brendan Fraser), who suspects sabotage. Complicating Corbo’s new gig is his former paramour and now Swann’s fiancée, medical visionary Dr. Grace Davila (Elena Anaya), who is racing to help stave off a global catastrophe. As Corbo and his team of veteran security professionals investigate the rocket disaster, they expose a lethal conspiracy of Swann’s corporate rivals, corrupt government officials, and a shadowy crime syndicate – all working to destroy Swann and take control of his tech empire. Worse, Corbo must also contend with Swann’s spoiled, troublemaking teen daughter (Jazzara Jaslyn) and a rogue Europol agent (Ken Duken) who is hellbent on busting him for past sins.
WALKER: INDEPENDENCE — Set in the late 1800s, an origin story of The CW’s current hit series “Walker,” WALKER: INDEPENDENCE follows Abby Walker (Katherine McNamara), an affluent and tough-minded Bostonian whose husband is murdered before her eyes while on their journey out West. After crossing paths with Calian (Justin Johnson Cortez), a curious Apache tracker, Abby arrives in the town of Independence, Texas, where she encounters diverse and eclectic residents running from their pasts, chasing their dreams, and keeping their own secrets, including Kate Carver (Katie Findlay), an idiosyncratic burlesque dancer with perhaps too keen an interest in Abby’s origins, and Kai (Lawrence Kao), a soulful Chinese immigrant who runs a local restaurant/laundry and offers Abby friendship without agenda. Abby also literally runs into Hoyt Rawlins (Matt Barr), a slippery rogue, thief, and con artist with a dented heart of gold who quickly eyes Abby as a mark, until she turns the tables on him. In seeking justice for her husband, Abby encounters Independence’s noble deputy sheriff, Augustus (Philemon Chambers), and his new boss, Sheriff Tom Davidson (Greg Hovanessian), who she has reason to believe is a very bad man indeed. Abby and Hoyt soon find themselves precariously aligned, both seeking to uncover the truth about the identity of Abby’s husband’s killer, and vow to save Independence – a frontier boomtown where nothing is what it seems.
FAMILY LAW centers around Abigail Bianchi (Jewel Staite), a high-paid personal-injury lawyer who’s good at blaming others – particularly when it comes to her own problems. After Abby’s husband kicks her out of the family home because of her drinking, she goes on a bender, shows up drunk in court and pukes on a client. The law society’s punishment is swift. She’s suspended, fined, and can only practice law again if she finds a senior lawyer who is willing to take her on and mentor her for a one year probationary period. Only one man is willing to take that risk: Harry Svensson (Victor Garber), who runs the top family law practice in the city. He also happens to be Abby’s estranged father, who left Abby and her complicated mother for his secretary when Abby was seven. Now, not only does Abby have to work for her father, she also has to work with her half siblings: Daniel (Zach Smadu), from Harry’s subsequent marriage and Lucy (Genelle Williams), from Harry’s third marriage. Thus begins the odd dynamic at Abigail’s new workplace. Abby has to try to put her shambles of a life back on track, all while dealing with family on three different levels: Other people’s families in her cases, the family she was born into, and her family: her husband and two children, all of whom she desperately wants back. Abigail not only has to prove herself in a new realm of law; she also has to work with and build relationships with a family she barely knows. Most challenging of all, she must work under the thumb of the man she’s spent a lifetime resenting.
MAGIC WITH THE STARS: In each episode, two celebrities train with professional magicians and compete to create a show-stopping series of magic performances. The celebrity competitors are tasked with mastering three major categories of magic, which they perform in front of a team of judges led by magician Criss Angel. Only the highest-scoring celebrities will be invited back to the finale where they will compete for the golden wand.
NEW MIDSEASON 2023 SERIES
GOTHAM KNIGHTS: Batman is dead, and a powder keg has ignited Gotham City without the Dark Knight to protect it. In the wake of Bruce Wayne’s murder, his adopted son Turner Hayes (Oscar Morgan) is framed for killing the Caped Crusader, along with the children of some of Batman’s enemies: Duela (Olivia Rose Keegan), an unpredictable fighter and skilled thief who was born in Arkham Asylum and abandoned by her father, Harper Row (Fallon Smythe), a streetwise and acerbic engineer who can fix anything, and her brother Cullen Row (Tyler DiChiara), a clever transgender teen who is tired of being polite and agreeable. With the charismatic and hard-charging District Attorney Harvey Dent (Misha Collins) and the GCPD hot on their trail, Turner will rely on allies including his best friend and formidable coder Stephanie Brown (Anna Lore), and unlikely Batman sidekick Carrie Kelley (Navia Robinson). But our Knights will soon learn there is a larger, more nefarious force at work within Gotham City.
RECIPE FOR DISASTER: In each episode, three professional chefs and their cooking partners compete to prepare spectacular dishes under absurdly adverse conditions. Our studio transforms into a bizarre new world each week, replete with themed disasters that challenge our chefs in ways they never imagined. They will attempt the perfect sear while stranded on an in-studio “desert island” during monsoon season, prep ramen while pulling off an art heist, or create a show-stopping soufflé while dodging aliens on Mars. To make matters worse, their cooking partners are people from their lives who are total kitchen novices. Who will impress the judges, and whose dishes will succumb to the ridiculous disasters du jour? Ultimately, only one team will be crowned Masters of Disaster!ReplyCopy URLNot now
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