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Eh, I think people are anti-dicting Wednesday. I get it – it really doesn’t pass the prestige/snob factor but I say this as someone whose taste is on the more “basic” side – people always do this with Netflix. I think it will probably get in Ortega and I am of the opinion that Christie is being somewhat underrated (I think she’s about seventh or eighth). They might miss series because I’m not sure if the actors branch will be that interested outside of those two, but I don’t think they’re missing entirely ATL.
Everyone’s taste is not a perpetual HBO circlejerk (I mean that with love, some of my favourite shows are on HBO, but honestly both the press and a lot of stans really do go overboard on the hyperbole) and heaps of people have kids and get a kick out of a show everyone can watch. Sometimes it really isn’t that deep.
Also, I completely get the obvious comparisons between Ortega and Gomez but (as someone who likes both of them, which doesn’t seem to be a very popular opinion – they would both be on my personal limited ballot) – can we not?
It feels so reductive and kind of infantilizing towards Gomez who is at a totally different stage of life and career. She’s an EP in her thirties with a really varied career -and considerable life experience – I don’t know why we need to compare her to a 20 year old.
Well I don’t think it’s ridiculous to think that Wednesday could be being overestimated or to suggest that the industry might not be as into it as audience’s are. It is currently ahead of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel in the predictions centre odds in series and neck and neck with Hacks which makes sense when you look at the buzz in the room but less so when you look on paper and see how both shows have been performing much better than it with the industry guilds. In spite of being a Netflix juggernaut it failed to make it into comedy ensemble at SAG (something it was predicted to do, in part because up until now there had never been a comedy ensemble field at SAG with no Netflix shows ever since they started making comedies) and comedy series at PGA (in spite of them skewing populist enough to even nominate Cobra Kai over What We Do in the Shadows last year). Likewise whilst it still remains a cultural talking point as a show it feels like its buzz within the awards sphere has been declining a little bit ever since Ortega lost to Brunson at the Globes.
We’ve seen plenty of instances of respected but not neccessarily loved high visibility Netflix series doing decently at the guilds but then under-performing at the Emmys after time has passed whether with Maniac or GLOW or Unbelievable and whilst it may be Netflix’s biggest show of all time I think its clear from its awards performance so far that Wednesday fits more in with those shows than it does with something like Bridgerton which had undeniable support. I still have it in my predictions for now but if The Great is indeed making eligibility it could be in danger. Voters have short memory spans and the fact that some of them don’t appear to be going out of their way to recognise this show right now feels a bit worrisome.
FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.
I didn’t put Hacks in anywhere, because I don’t think it will return before nomination deadline. Barry on the other hand, will be in I believe.
Well I don’t think it’s ridiculous to think that Wednesday could be being overestimated or to suggest that the industry might not be as into it as audience’s are.
I don’t think we’re on particularly different pages – I only have it in just. I wholeheartedly agree with you on The Great potentially jumping in but I also think Hulu are in the midst of a visibility problem which is why I think Wednesday has the edge. I am happy to stand corrected (I was very wrong on Dead to Me).
I agree the industry will never like it as much as the public but I don’t think getting, say two fringe ATL noms is overpredicting a show that visible which has SAG and Globe noms (and I don’t even think they did any SAG events), which is going to be the difference between it and a smaller contender. My issue is people saying it won’t get nominated because it doesn’t have swearing…I mean….Abbott?
SAG ensemble would have been good for them but….the other shows DO have better ensembles. I like the show and I think anyone outside of Ortega and perhaps Christie is a stretch. (Myers is the only other kid that has material).
I’m trying to figure out the eight episodes FRIENDS submitted in 1996 for SEASON 2. I found this list that has 7 episodes. Does anyone know the 8th episode submitted? Was it one of the Super Bowl episodes?
NOMINEES
FRIENDS
The One with Ross’ New Girlfriend
The One Where Ross Finds Out
The One with Phoebe’s Dad
The One with the Lesbian Wedding
The One with the Prom Video
The One Where Ross and Rachel… You Know
The One Where Eddie Moves In
I hope The Great does come back, I miss it so much.
FYC:
The HBO darlings everywhere (The Last of Us, Succession, The White Lotus, Perry Mason, Somebody Somewhere, White House Plumbers, Love & Death);
The Apple gang (Bad Sisters, Slow Horses, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Black Bird);
Poker Face, The Great, The Bear, Evil (especially Katja Herbers) and The Good Fight.Please! These gays, they're trying to murder me!
Eh, I think people are anti-dicting Wednesday
Was wondering how long it would be before we’d get our first lazy comment from someone about how people aren’t predicting something they like so everyone must be biased against it.
Can we just have one season where people recognise that we are all making *predictions* and not a dream ballot? So you can rest assured that nobody who is a serious predictor will be “anti-dicting” anything.
3) Also, I completely get the obvious comparisons between Ortega and Gomez but (as someone who likes both of them, which doesn’t seem to be a very popular opinion – they would both be on my personal limited ballot) – can we not?
I would love to see both their names on the ballot, but realistically it’s unlikely. Sadly, actors are often put in boxes.
Can we just have one season where people recognise that we are all making *predictions* and not a dream ballot? So you can rest assured that nobody who is a serious predictor will be “anti-dicting” anything.
Point taken – maybe I miss used that term.
Cobra Kai is just as YA focused as Wednesday.
I agree Wednesday is weaker than Jenna Ortega right now, but if the category turns out too open I doubt they will nominate Reservation Dogs.
, but if the category turns out too open I doubt they will nominate Reservation Dogs.
My biggest issue with Res Dogs is that FX’s strategy feels very “The Bear or bust”. I think WWDITS can probably get back, or The Great, but I don’t really like the chances of FX pushing hard enough to get two comedy series in.
The Great is Hulu only tho
The Bear is that FX on Hulu thing and WWDITS is the network FX.FYC:
The HBO darlings everywhere (The Last of Us, Succession, The White Lotus, Perry Mason, Somebody Somewhere, White House Plumbers, Love & Death);
The Apple gang (Bad Sisters, Slow Horses, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Black Bird);
Poker Face, The Great, The Bear, Evil (especially Katja Herbers) and The Good Fight.Please! These gays, they're trying to murder me!
The Great is Hulu only tho The Bear is that FX on Hulu thing and WWDITS is the network FX.
Yeah I know, I suppose I am more confident of The Great or WWDITS being defaulted back to than a newer option like Res Dogs sneaking in.
(also I love WWDITS, give it everything).
I am wondering why Anthony Carrigan seems to be so low in the predictions (ranking about 7th). I know we have discussed SAG and voter overlap. To me, him getting in over Tyler, Henry and Tony S at SAG in the actor category was huge and would signal to me his ranking higher with actors than we are giving him credit for. (In retrospect now, everyone thought the supporting actor race last Emmys was Brett v. Henry but more likely it may have been Brett v. Anthony the entire time). Now granted, we have not seen his next season’s material but outside of Tyler (and Bowen) that’s true of everyone else who is top ranked.
Yeah I know, I suppose I am more confident of The Great or WWDITS being defaulted back to than a newer option like Res Dogs sneaking in. (also I love WWDITS, give it everything).
I don’t know if I can really properly explain why but I’m not too confident about them defaulting to What We Do in the Shadows even if the field ends up being weaker in the end. Missing WGA for the first time in spite of the writers being the biggest fans of the show is one thing but the show also just went from winning at CSA (the casting society) to not even being able to get in over The Other Two.
The Great missed series last time round but it also showed signs of growing (getting both Fanning and Hoult in after they were snubbed for season 1, winning a creative arts Emmy in a competitive category) so I think if voters default to one of them in series it will probably be the former rather than the latter like when they went with The Good Place in 2019 over Black-ish and Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.
FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.
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