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  • jjjmoss
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    not that it’s a hard feat, but poker face already has over 1k more votes on imdb than girls5eva when the latter debuted 2 years ago.

    and girls was able to pull a writing nom anyway. so i’m cautiously optimistic.


    braydenfitzsimmons
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    Anyone know why Poker Face is in drama? Shows like Barry and Atlanta are in comedy and even just looking at Rian Johnson, Knives Out and Glass Onion are very similar in tone to Poker Face and they were always considered comedies. I don’t know if the Emmys will embrace the show as a drama as much as they could if it was in comedy. The only reason I could see is trying to get Natasha Lyonne in the super weak Lead Actress category.

    Those series are actual comedies (or at least were when they starting airing) whereas Poker Face has made no secret about it being a traditional whodunit, it being in comedy would as absurd as Murder, She Wrote being considered a comedy series.


    kat_ebbs
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    Those series are actual comedies (or at least were when they starting airing) whereas Poker Face has made no secret about it being a traditional whodunit, it being in comedy would as absurd as Murder, She Wrote being considered a comedy series.

    The show is marketed as a drama, a riff on Columbo (which ran in drama) and the episodes are hour long. There are a couple of hour longs that do run in comedy but generally the default is drama. You don’t get any advantage below the line running in comedy as an hour long so it generally only serves shows that are craft heavy.


    Victor
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    Anyone know why Poker Face is in drama?

    Because it is a drama.

    FYC:
    The HBO darlings everywhere (The Last of Us, Succession, The White Lotus, Perry Mason, Somebody Somewhere, White House Plumbers, Love & Death);
    The Apple gang (Bad Sisters, Slow Horses, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Black Bird);
    Poker Face, The Great, The Bear, Evil (especially Katja Herbers) and The Good Fight.

    Please! These gays, they're trying to murder me!


    Victor
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    Remember when the GOAT GOATED last year, it better happen again.

    FYC:
    The HBO darlings everywhere (The Last of Us, Succession, The White Lotus, Perry Mason, Somebody Somewhere, White House Plumbers, Love & Death);
    The Apple gang (Bad Sisters, Slow Horses, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Black Bird);
    Poker Face, The Great, The Bear, Evil (especially Katja Herbers) and The Good Fight.

    Please! These gays, they're trying to murder me!


    wolfali
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    Darling, he’s the next Julia Garner.

    But actually deserving this time round.

    FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.


    Victor
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    But actually deserving this time round.

    You just know methaddiction is coming for you.
    But so true darling, she blocking Snook two times is so criminal.

    FYC:
    The HBO darlings everywhere (The Last of Us, Succession, The White Lotus, Perry Mason, Somebody Somewhere, White House Plumbers, Love & Death);
    The Apple gang (Bad Sisters, Slow Horses, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Black Bird);
    Poker Face, The Great, The Bear, Evil (especially Katja Herbers) and The Good Fight.

    Please! These gays, they're trying to murder me!


    wolfali
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    You just know methaddiction is coming for you.

    And they can come for me all they want darling.

    FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.


    methaddiction
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    You just know methaddiction is coming for you. But so true darling, she blocking Snook two times is so criminal.

    And they can come for me all they want darling. 

     


    wolfali
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    FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.


    jjjmoss
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    the last last of us ep is the 13th episode with 100k ratings on imdb. gotx10, bbx2.

    7.9 weighted avg, 6.9 unweighted


    kat_ebbs
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    6 of 667 people predicting a Crown nomination without win was not on my bingo card six months ago. It’s a dispassionate response rather than hate, isn’t it?


    wolfali
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    6 of 667 people predicting a Crown nomination without win was not on my bingo card six months ago. It’s a dispassionate response rather than hate, isn’t it?

    I’d say so. Obviously the critical response was polarising and in the UK in particular there’s been a bit of a culture war between royalists and not so royalists within the media publications (although that seems to have calmed down a lot since people realised how sympathetic it was to Charles lol). But I think with the general public the response at large has been more that this season is really boring than anything else, especially in retrospect to season 4.

    Personally speaking as someone who likes the show this would be the first season I wouldn’t nominate in a lineup of eight even though I think it is better than season 3 and would nominate it for acting and technical categories and I think that was more or less the sentiment I had with Ozark last year in the midst of the mixed, and eventually muted, response to the show’s final run of episodes. I’m not naive enough to think that my opinions on productions are shared by Emmy voters (especially when so many of them have different opinions from each other in the first place) but that’s kind of how I expect the show perform in my predictions this year. Not a complete collapse like some in the awards predicting world are/were on edge about it but enough of an under-performance relative to the previous awards performances of the shows as industry darlings and in particular on their directly preceding runs (i.e. I expect The Crown to be dropped from several categories this year just like Ozark was from categories it made for seasons 2 and 3 like editing). I think something that’s worth noting about both shows (and will be interesting to see with only the former contending at the Emmys now) is how there hasn’t been any room for both shows at the guilds. Just as how Linney made it in over Staunton at SAG and Ozark made it in over The Crown at PGA, The Crown made it in over Ozark at other guilds it had made previously like WGA.

    FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.


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    Nathan lane said in an interview that Gilded age won’t be back till September.


    kat_ebbs
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    I’d say so. Obviously the critical response was polarising and in the UK in particular there’s been a bit of a culture war between royalists and not so royalists within the media publications (although that seems to have calmed down a lot since people realised how sympathetic it was to Charles lol). But I think with the general public the response at large has been more that this season is really boring than anything else, especially in retrospect to season 4.

    I do think we also might have gotten to a tipping point – probably pandemic related – with period drama and royal intrigue where it’s out of industry favour (whilst still being variably commercially viable)

    It’s not just The Crown, it’s The Gilded Age, Bridgerton, House of The Dragon, the Yellowstone prequels (which, say what you will, but they’re very well made), the (commercially) muted response to some really solid stuff Starz is doing etc, stuff like Interview With The Vampire, et al.

    There does seem to be a distinct preference towards modern stuff, dystopias, black “comedy”, corporate stuff, slight sci fi.

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