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    Eden
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    I never denied the show’s performance at SAG, nor the performances of the actors. Just because it’s bigger than its previous season doesn’t mean it will explode at the Emmys.

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    I mean Bateman got in and Ozark got nominated for directing for a no1curr episode in 2018 for a random July dump. Then 4 SAG noms (a win), 2 major above-the-line Emmys (albeit due to vote splitting, but no less passion-based), and WGA, DGA, PGA nods all for another summer release in the second season. That’s the definition of passion. And given that its best season is competing, I don’t know why you shouldn’t have an increased confidence in it? Especially with its hit status and airing just at the right time. And it is most definitely competitive for Drama Series. Will it win? Who knows. But you can’t say it definitely won’t when it’s probably top 2 at the moment and could win another acting Emmy (or two; tbh Laura is locked imo) plus directing again.

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    Y’all literally read and understand what y’all want dontcha? The question wasn’t whether Ozark has passion or not but anyways, whatever fits your narrative…

    Erm you’re arguing that it can’t have more passion that The Crown and that it’s only predicted because of the directing win last year, when it gets more noms and wins each year, probably the second most watched in the race after Stranger Things, and is mega beloved by the industry. But somehow yes the directing win is the only reason anyone considers it competitive, but anyways whatever fits your narrative…

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    I never denied the show’s performance at SAG, nor the performances of the actors. Just because it’s bigger than its previous season doesn’t mean it will explode at the Emmys.

    Erm Ozark kinda already exploded at the Emmys last year with Series, Actress and Supporting actress noms (and win for SA) in addition to s1 nominations of Actor and directing. It getting another supporting actress in and supporting actor isn’t exploding but in continuity of its trajectory, both in quality and at the Emmys.

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    I’ve just sadly slotted Cherry Jones in for the second time for The Handmaid’s Tale. Whilst I’ve taking the risky decision of dropping the show from Series I really don’t see Jones missing for The Handmaid’s Tale and only getting in for Succession especially considering THT’s previous dominance in this category. I see The Handmaid’s Tale being weaker this year to the extent that it could end up like the fourth season of The Good Wife and miss Actress and Series whilst getting Supporting nods but I don’t see how it goes from three consecutive wins to only one nominee.

    Oscars FYC:
    "THE POWER OF THE DOG" – IN ALL CATEGORIES
    "SPENCER" – In all categories especially Director (Pablo Larrain) and Actress (Kristen Stewart)
    "SHIVA BABY" – in all categories especially Picture, Adapted Screenplay, Score
    "TOGETHER" – Actress (Sharon Horgan), Actor (James McAvoy), Original Screenplay
    "FLEE" – IN ALL CATEGORIES
    "LAST NIGHT IN SOHO" – Director (Edgar Wright), S. Actress (Anya Taylor-Joy/Diana Rigg), Cinematography, Costume Design and Production Design

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    My whole point was that users are confidently predicting wins already, which is why I stated Ozark isn’t winning Drama Series, as a counter-opinion. I’m still thinking it’s unlikely to win the top prize, but I’m not as nearly as confident as others.

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    As of THT in Series, it’s a lock.

    This couldn’t be further from the truth.

    Oscars FYC:
    "THE POWER OF THE DOG" – IN ALL CATEGORIES
    "SPENCER" – In all categories especially Director (Pablo Larrain) and Actress (Kristen Stewart)
    "SHIVA BABY" – in all categories especially Picture, Adapted Screenplay, Score
    "TOGETHER" – Actress (Sharon Horgan), Actor (James McAvoy), Original Screenplay
    "FLEE" – IN ALL CATEGORIES
    "LAST NIGHT IN SOHO" – Director (Edgar Wright), S. Actress (Anya Taylor-Joy/Diana Rigg), Cinematography, Costume Design and Production Design

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    You just explained why it isn’t winning drama series!

    No. I just explained why The Crown doesn’t have a major appeal to make it a super popular show. It’s still popular. And its definetly more popular than Succession. Not to mention its subject matter isn’t that appealing either. Yet, we are all predicting it to win Drama series. We all like to make assumptions like this, but truth is that none of us has any clue of whats going to happen. Succession can definetly win but so can The Crown and Ozark.

     

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    SAG ensemble nod, and far safer than Stranger Things, TMS, BLL, TIU etc etc. It’s comfortably in. Just right behind the 3 frontrunners and maybe BCS.

    I’m pretty sure both Stranger Things and Big Little Lies also got into SAG ensemble…

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    SAG ensemble nod, and far safer than Stranger Things, TMS, BLL, TIU etc etc. It’s comfortably in. Just right behind the 3 frontrunners and maybe BCS.

    Just because it got in at SAG doesn’t mean its safer than SAG winning and three time nominated (in one year) The Morning Show or PGA and SAG nominated Big Little Lies.

    I mean if the fact it got two nods at SAG is why you think it’s a lock then you should consider Stranger Things a lock LMAO.

    Oscars FYC:
    "THE POWER OF THE DOG" – IN ALL CATEGORIES
    "SPENCER" – In all categories especially Director (Pablo Larrain) and Actress (Kristen Stewart)
    "SHIVA BABY" – in all categories especially Picture, Adapted Screenplay, Score
    "TOGETHER" – Actress (Sharon Horgan), Actor (James McAvoy), Original Screenplay
    "FLEE" – IN ALL CATEGORIES
    "LAST NIGHT IN SOHO" – Director (Edgar Wright), S. Actress (Anya Taylor-Joy/Diana Rigg), Cinematography, Costume Design and Production Design

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    SAG ensemble nod, and far safer than Stranger Things, TMS, BLL, TIU etc etc. It’s comfortably in. Just right behind the 3 frontrunners and maybe BCS.

    Yeah this is basically why I’m confident in THT although BLL does have PGA nom over it, but the Arnold omission is basically asking for directors to not support it at all and it’s not like writers will.

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    and far safer than Stranger Things, TMS, BLL, TIU etc

    Isn’t that the point that was indirectly being debated? You can’t really use it as an argument to why it’s a lock when this statement itself is largely debatable.

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    I am (somewhat) confident in THT because I’ve realized that, although these forums and RT numbers would suggest otherwise, there are quite a few people that still love the show. S3 was very rocky – I don’t think anyone is denying that – but by the end, I think people were onboard again. Someone here has cited CC, Globe and AFI snubs, but those mean nothing. There’s no overlap between those voting bodies and that of the TV academy. There is, however, overlap with the guilds, and THT still snagged 11 guild noms, including two at SAG. It also helps that outside of the top 3 anything can happen. BCS is probably the closest to a lock after those (though let’s not pretend like this is some Emmy darling), but after that? Stranger Things, BLL, Pose and TIU are all on shaky ground, and I would never be bold enough to call TMS a lock.

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