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    wolfali
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    I don’t think Squid Game is that popular in US.

    https://flixpatrol.com/title/squid-game/

    FYC:
    Picture: Passing, The Power of the Dog, Shiva Baby, Spencer
    Director: Jane Campion, Rebecca Hall, Pablo Larrain
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch, Andrew Garfield, Winston Duke/James McAvoy
    Actress: Olivia Colman, Kristen Stewart, Tessa Thompson
    S. Actor: Richard E. Grant, Troy Kotsur, Kodi Smit-McPhee
    S. Actress : Kirsten Dunst/Martha Plimpton/Ruth Negga/Diana Rigg/Anya Taylor-Joy
    O. Screenplay: Bergman Island/Mass/Nine Days
    A. Screenplay: The Lost Daughter/Passing/The Power of the Dog/Shiva Baby

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    https://flixpatrol.com/title/squid-game/

    Yep, but number 1s don’t necessarily = everyone finishing it, or rewatching it, or even particularly high viewership, just comparative. Nielsen is not perfect but the ratings that come out a few weeks later will generally show whether this is a garden variety number 1 they have every 3 weeks or an all-timer.

     

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    I actually think Squid Game would be very deserving nominees in a lot of categories at the Emmys. Korean actors are always top-notch and scarily good (Parasite, Minari, Burning, etc.) and Squid Game is just further proof. If it doesn’t get in for any techs or Writing/Directing, I would love to see some love for the actors.

    I’m not certain or confident that Squid Game will break through at the Emmys, but if it does, I’d be very happy. (And the Television Academy should really acknowledge more Asian artists/stories).

    FYC -
    Picture: The Power of the Dog, Spencer, The Lost Daughter, Mass
    Director: Jane Campion, Pablo Larraín, Maggie Gyllenhaal, Fran Kranz
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch
    Actress: Kristen Stewart, Tessa Thompson, Olivia Colman
    Supporting Actor: Kodi Smit-McPhee, Corey Hawkins, Jason Isaacs
    Supporting Actress: Ruth Negga, Kirsten Dunst, Rebecca Ferguson, Martha Plimpton, Ann Dowd
    O. Screenplay: Spencer, Mass
    A. Screenplay: The Power of the Dog, The Lost Daughter
    Score: Jonny Greenwood (Dog/Spencer)

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    So how many international drama series in a foreign language have been nominated at the Primetime Emmys before???

    None.

    Some of y’all need to realize that being #1 on the “Netflix Chart” does not equal becoming an automatic Emmy nominee. Let’s see what’s “#1” in a month from now and if this show is even remembered by the end of the eligibility period in 8 months.

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    So how many international drama series in a foreign language have been nominated at the Primetime Emmys before??? None.

    There’s always a year for a first.

    Before Watchmen no superhero show had been nominated for or won major above the line Emmys. Before WandaVision no Marvel show had ever touched the Emmys. Before The Crown and <i>The Queen’s Gambit</i> won their series categories last week no Netflix show had ever won a series award at the Emmys before. Before Hacks no show had won comedy actress, writing and directing but still lost series. Before Zendaya no actor from a teen drama had ever won a lead Emmy.

    FYC:
    Picture: Passing, The Power of the Dog, Shiva Baby, Spencer
    Director: Jane Campion, Rebecca Hall, Pablo Larrain
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch, Andrew Garfield, Winston Duke/James McAvoy
    Actress: Olivia Colman, Kristen Stewart, Tessa Thompson
    S. Actor: Richard E. Grant, Troy Kotsur, Kodi Smit-McPhee
    S. Actress : Kirsten Dunst/Martha Plimpton/Ruth Negga/Diana Rigg/Anya Taylor-Joy
    O. Screenplay: Bergman Island/Mass/Nine Days
    A. Screenplay: The Lost Daughter/Passing/The Power of the Dog/Shiva Baby

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    There’s always a year for a first.

    There’s always a year for a first. And it will absolutely not be Squid Game.

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    Anyway end of September/beginning of October predictions.

    Assuming House of the DragonSlow Horses and Stranger Things join The Crown and The Handmaid’s Tale and miss eligibility.

    Drama Series

    1. Succession (HBO)
    2. Ozark (Netflix)
    3. The Gilded Age (HBO)
    4. Killing Eve (BBC America)
    5. Better Call Saul (AMC)
    6. Bridgerton (Netflix)
    7. The Boys (Amazon)
    8. Euphoria (HBO)

    9. The Morning Show (AppleTV+)
    10. This is Us (NBC)

    Next in Line: The Old Man, Severance

    Drama Actor

    1. Jason Bateman, Ozark
    2. Jeremy Strong, Succession
    3. Brian Cox, Succession
    4. Sterling K. Brown, This is Us
    5. Jeff Bridges, The Old Man
    6. Bob Odenkirk, Better Call Saul

    7. Jonathan Bailey, Bridgerton
    8. Milo Ventimiglia, This is Us
    9. Michael C. Hall, Dexter : New Blood
    10. Antony Starr, The Boys

    Next in Line: Adam Scott, Karl Urban

    Drama Actress

    1. Jennifer Aniston, The Morning Show
    2. Zendaya, Euphoria
    3. Laura Linney, Ozark
    4. Christine Baranski, The Gilded Age 
    5. Jodie Comer, Killing Eve
    6. Sandra Oh, Killing Eve

    7. Louisa Jacobson, The Gilded Age
    8. Simone Ashley, Bridgerton
    9. Patricia Arquette, Severance
    10. Reese Witherspoon, The Morning Show

    Next in Line: Mandy Moore, Erin Moriarty

    Drama S. Actor

    1. Billy Crudup, The Morning Show
    2. Kieran Culkin, Succession
    3. Steve Carell, The Morning Show
    4. Matthew Macfadyen, Succession
    5. Nicholas Braun, Succession
    6. Giancarlo Esposito, Better Call Saul
    7. John Lithgow, The Old Man
    8. Jonathan Banks, Better Call Saul

    9. Chris Sullivan, This is Us
    10. Mark Duplass, The Morning Show 

    Next in Line: Alan Ruck, Morgan Spector

    Drama S. Actress

    1. Julia Garner, Ozark
    2. Sarah Snook, Succession
    3. Carrie Coon, The Gilded Age
    4. Fiona Shaw, Killing Eve
    5. J. Smith-Cameron, Succession
    6. Julianna Margulies, The Morning Show
    7. Cynthia Nixon, The Gilded Age 
    8. Chrissy Metz, This is Us

    9. Susan Kelechi Watson, This is Us
    10. Adjoa Andoh, Bridgerton

    Next in Line: Rhea Seehorn, Nicola Coughlan

    Drama G. Actor

    1. Alexander Skarsgard, Succession
    2. James Cromwell, Succession
    3. Will Arnett, The Morning Show
    4. Adrien Brody, Succession
    5. John Lithgow, Dexter : New Blood
    6. Michael Angarano, This is Us

    7. Nathan Lane, The Gilded Age
    8. Richard E. Grant, Loki
    9. Ward Horton, The Gilded Age
    10. Jonathan Majors, Loki

    Next in Line: Arian Moayed, Michel Gill

    Drama G. Actress

    1. Hope Davis, Succession
    2. Holland Taylor, The Morning Show
    3. Marcia Gay Harden, The Morning Show
    4. Hiam Abbass, Succession
    5. Harriet Walter, Succession
    6. Jeanne Tripplehorn, The Gilded Age

    7. Sanaaa Lathan, Succession
    8. Audra McDonald, The Gilded Age
    9. Valeria Golino, The Morning Show
    10. Annabelle Dexter-Jones, Succession

    Next in Line: Linda Emond (Succession), Linda Emond (The Gilded Age)

    Drama Writing

    1. Jesse Armstrong, Succession (“3×09”)
    2. Better Call Saul (“Finale”)
    3. Ozark
    4. Ozark
    5. Ozark
    6. The Boys
    7. Julian Fellowes, The Gilded Age (“Pilot”)

    8. Laura Neal, Killing Eve (“Finale”)
    9. The Boys
    10. Better Call Saul

    Drama Directing

    1. Mark Mylod, Succession (“3×09”)
    2. Cathy Yan, Succession
    3. Robin Wright, Ozark
    4. Mimi Leder, The Morning Show
    5. Ozark
    6. Michael Engler, The Gilded Age (“Pilot”)

    7. Killing Eve (“Finale”)
    8. Better Call Saul (“Finale”)

    9. Bridgerton
    10. The Boys 

    FYC:
    Picture: Passing, The Power of the Dog, Shiva Baby, Spencer
    Director: Jane Campion, Rebecca Hall, Pablo Larrain
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch, Andrew Garfield, Winston Duke/James McAvoy
    Actress: Olivia Colman, Kristen Stewart, Tessa Thompson
    S. Actor: Richard E. Grant, Troy Kotsur, Kodi Smit-McPhee
    S. Actress : Kirsten Dunst/Martha Plimpton/Ruth Negga/Diana Rigg/Anya Taylor-Joy
    O. Screenplay: Bergman Island/Mass/Nine Days
    A. Screenplay: The Lost Daughter/Passing/The Power of the Dog/Shiva Baby

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    Squid Game is fine, very entertaining, I’m just bitter i guess because there are way more K-Dramas who are a thousand times better, with some perfect writing and directing. But i also guess that someone needs to open the door, so if it’s Squid Game, great.

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    This field looks so boring.

    I think This is Us gets back in Series again before Euphoria gets in

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    I think This is Us gets back in Series again before Euphoria gets in

    Yeah, i won’t make the same mistake twice.
    Back before the Emmy nods this year, i was overthinking This is Us and giving potential nods for everyone, Alienist, Falcon and Winter Soldier, In Treatment, Perry Mason etc, ended up predicting For All Mankind and went 7/8 out of dumbness.

    This is a show that benefits from weak fields and next year is weak again.

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    I think This is Us gets back in Series again before Euphoria gets in

    Euphoria has more cross branch support than <i>This is Us</i> though and did actually have programme nominations from the BAFTAs and TCA (the latter of whom didn’t even nominate Zendaya). So for all we know it could have been ahead of This is Us and <i>The Morning Show</i> in series last time round (not to mention it garnered more Emmy wins than both of them did in 2020).

    Whilst passion may be a deciding factor for a nomination and win in the acting categories recent history has shown that not to be the case in series. The Queen’s Gambit won with only directing above the line because it ultimately swept the below the line categories. Game of Thrones won multiple times sometimes without wins in acting and without wins in directing because it had an overwhelming amount of tech support. Stranger Things got in over The Morning Show because it had a lot of support in tech whilst the latter couldn’t even get a casting nomination.

    Likewise I also don’t understand the sudden confidence in This is Us on this site. I think it can get back into some acting categories because the field is weak but if it couldn’t even get Moore and Ventimiglia back in a weaker year like last year’s then why will it suddenly become a smash in a more competitive one this year? It was probably behind The Boys and last in series last year. Final season narratives only work to a degree.

    FYC:
    Picture: Passing, The Power of the Dog, Shiva Baby, Spencer
    Director: Jane Campion, Rebecca Hall, Pablo Larrain
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch, Andrew Garfield, Winston Duke/James McAvoy
    Actress: Olivia Colman, Kristen Stewart, Tessa Thompson
    S. Actor: Richard E. Grant, Troy Kotsur, Kodi Smit-McPhee
    S. Actress : Kirsten Dunst/Martha Plimpton/Ruth Negga/Diana Rigg/Anya Taylor-Joy
    O. Screenplay: Bergman Island/Mass/Nine Days
    A. Screenplay: The Lost Daughter/Passing/The Power of the Dog/Shiva Baby

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    It’s not about confidence in This is Us. It’s about NOT being confident in Euphoria. The specials getting ignored just shows that the Academy didn’t change their feelings for the show as a whole

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    Euphoria has more cross branch support than This is Us though

    Not to mention Euphoria did manage to retain it’s non-music categories* this very year for its two specials, in addition to getting a Cinematography nom for the first time.

    * the Billie Eilish/Rosalia song wasn’t submitted and let’s be real, the other musical aspects in “Sea Blob” weren’t as much of standout as compared to S1, and had arguably much stronger competition this year.

    Oscars FYC:

    "CODA" – in all categories

    "Everybody's Talking About Jamie" – Sup. Actor (Richard E. Grant), Sup. Actress (Sarah Lancashire) and Original Song (“This Was Me”)

    "King Richard" – Original Song (“Be Alive”)

    "Summer of Soul" – Picture, Film Editing and Documentary Feature

    “The Green Knight” – in all categories

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    This field actually is too boring and milquetoast. Something or someone will come and mix it up.

    Re: The Boys, I think it gets Starr in or it falls out entirely.

     

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    The specials getting ignored just shows that the Academy didn’t change their feelings for the show as a whole

    The specials still got three nominations in spite of being specials that aired months and months before voting began and were ineligible in significant categories.

    This time round a full season is airing and close to voting.

    FYC:
    Picture: Passing, The Power of the Dog, Shiva Baby, Spencer
    Director: Jane Campion, Rebecca Hall, Pablo Larrain
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch, Andrew Garfield, Winston Duke/James McAvoy
    Actress: Olivia Colman, Kristen Stewart, Tessa Thompson
    S. Actor: Richard E. Grant, Troy Kotsur, Kodi Smit-McPhee
    S. Actress : Kirsten Dunst/Martha Plimpton/Ruth Negga/Diana Rigg/Anya Taylor-Joy
    O. Screenplay: Bergman Island/Mass/Nine Days
    A. Screenplay: The Lost Daughter/Passing/The Power of the Dog/Shiva Baby

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