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    Someone needs to explain to me where does The White Lotus stand.

    It is neither as acclaimed and well watched as Mare of Easttown nor does it have the advantage of a late release that First Lady and other shows will have. So why would HBO put it in Limited when on one hand it isn’t as strong as Mare of Easttown and is at the risk of losing the winter awards while on the other hand it will have lost a lot of momentum by the time Emmys roll.

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    Someone needs to explain to me where does The White Lotus stand.

    It’s probably the most competitive show in supporting categories in limited at this point, and arguably overall even taking in to account upcoming releases. That doesn’t really help it anywhere except CCA, but SAG and/or Globes potentially given an indication of who if anyone is really strong in lead.

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    It’s probably the most competitive show in supporting categories in limited at this point, and arguably overall even taking in to account upcoming releases.

    True though The First Lady will be a juggernaut too.

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    True though The First Lady will be a juggernaut too.

    Complete (and inexcusable) mind blank

    Even so, The White Lotus is greatly helped by being on HBO. I’m pretty sure the number of nominations total Showtime has had since the new unlimited ballot system five years ago can be counted on one hand. If Hawke can miss, it can certainly underperform.

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    I’m pretty sure the number of nominations total Showtime has had since the new unlimited ballot system five years ago can be counted on one hand. If Hawke can miss, it can certainly underperform.

    Very true. If the strength of the Davis-Pfeiffer-Anderson combo can’t get showtime crucial and major noms,then time for showtime to stop submitting shows for the Emmys.

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    Very true. If the strength of the Davis-Pfeiffer-Anderson combo can’t get showtime crucial and major noms,then time for showtime to stop submitting shows for the Emmys. You have liked it successfully! REPLY1

    Pretty much. They should be a slam dunk.

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    Hmm, i don’t think Mare is stronger competition for the winter awards than Succession for them.
    Especially for WGA.

    I think they should be fine.

    It's all about Ethan Hawke!

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    Complete (and inexcusable) mind blank

    Even so, The White Lotus is greatly helped by being on HBO. I’m pretty sure the number of nominations total Showtime has had since the new unlimited ballot system five years ago can be counted on one hand. If Hawke can miss, it can certainly underperform.

    Pretty much, especially when taking the pre-2016 (Ray, Homeland, Shameless etc) out of the equation.

    Showtime Primetime Noms by Year

    2016: 8 (Ray Donovan, 4; Homeland, 3; Shameless, 1 and The Affair 1)
    2017: 4 (Homeland, 2; Ray Donovan and Shameless 1)
    2018: 8 (Patrick Melrose, 4; Twin Peaks, 2; Homeland and Shameless, 1)
    2019: 10 (Escape at Dannemora, 7; Who Is America?, 2; and Black Monday, 1)
    2020: 2 (Black Monday and Homeland)
    2021: 2 (Colbert Election special and Shameless, 1)

    Oscars FYC:

    "Lamb" – International Feature and all categories

    "Summer of Soul" – Picture, Film Editing and Documentary Feature

    “The Green Knight” – in all categories

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    Escape at Dannemora, 7

    Chile the smash

    It's all about Ethan Hawke!

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    Someone needs to explain to me where does The White Lotus stand.

    It is neither as acclaimed and well watched as Mare of Easttown nor does it have the advantage of a late release that First Lady and other shows will have. So why would HBO put it in Limited when on one hand it isn’t as strong as Mare of Easttown and is at the risk of losing the winter awards while on the other hand it will have lost a lot of momentum by the time Emmys roll.

    Multiple shows have sustained momentum at the Emmys after losing at the guilds in the past. TWL is more Watchmen in that regard than something like Sharp Objects which seemed to be doing so well largely because of the competition. The White Lotus is inherently strong otoh.

    As for its category placement, Succession offers stronger competition and has more shared sensibilities with TWL than what Mare has with the same which is a somewhat significant disadvantage imo. HBO is less vulnerable in drama than it is in limited. That’s my reasoning at least.

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    Idk about Showtime, they are really bad lately, they couldn’t capitalize on crítical favorites or even comercial one. Even when they hit both like Dannemora they can’t quite capitalize on it.

    Nevertheless, I’m assuming that a full star based cast should be enough, they wouldn’t bring all of those names for nothing.

    It's all about Ethan Hawke!

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    Idk about Showtime, they are really bad lately, they couldn’t capitalize on crítical favorites or even comercial one. Even when they hit both like Dannemora they can’t quite capitalize on it. Nevertheless, I’m assuming that a full star based cast should be enough, they wouldn’t bring all of those names for nothing.

    They’ve had seven performers in five years under this system most from older shows (Arquette being the only actress) so I hope so. Everyone’s ostensibly a previous Emmy nominee/winner which I think is probably more necessary there than elsewhere.

     

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    I was thing more above the lin

    They’ve had seven performers in five years under this system most from older shows (Arquette being the only actress) so I hope so. Everyone’s ostensibly a previous Emmy nominee/winner which I think is probably more necessary there than elsewhere.

    Del Toro, Arquette, Dano for Dannemora and Cumberbatch for Patrick Melrose as the only new ones right?
    The others are Don Cheadle, Mandy Patinkin and William H Macy

    Did Claire Danes and Liev Schreiber both got dropped before the new system?

    It's all about Ethan Hawke!

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    Did Claire Danes and Liev Schreiber both got dropped before the new system?

    No.
    Both Schreiber and Danes got nominated in 2015 (Viola Davis and Jon Hamm won) and 2016 (Tatiana Maslany and Rami Malek won).

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    The Three Major Contenders for Upcoming Awards Season IMDB:

    Mare Of Easttown 

    No.of votes=109,393

    Rating=8.5

     

    The White Lotus 

    No.of votes=37,229

    Rating=7.7

     

    Maid 

    No.of votes= 21,790

    Rating=8.6

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