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    Mary
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    I don’t know but this season is somewhat not on the same level as season one. I can’t put my finger on what’s different this season. Season two has been slow thus far and we’re halfway done with the season already.

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    I don’t know but this season is somewhat not on the same level as season one. I can’t put my finger on what’s different this season. Season two has been slow thus far and we’re halfway done with the season already.

    I feel like it’s because there’s been like 10 minutes worth of plot in the 3 hours of show we’ve gotten so far.

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    I feel like it’s because there’s been like 10 minutes worth of plot in the 3 hours of show we’ve gotten so far.

    It’s style over substance this season.

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    I don’t know but this season is somewhat not on the same level as season one. I can’t put my finger on what’s different this season. Season two has been slow thus far and we’re halfway done with the season already.

    I also think it’s because S1 felt more… niche?

    • HBO Max wasn’t launched yet when it premiered and nobody knew how to work HBO Go or Now.

    • 300k for the HBO cable only premiere versus the 2.4m cable and Max viewers for the S1, (literally 8x the audience).

    • it’s also pretty clear and only the absolute die hard fans of S1 watched the two specials. The majority of people discussing it on TikTok didn’t even realise they were a thing.

    • aired the summer immediately after Thrones ended (ie, many people cancelled their cable subscriptions).

    • and also airing co-currently with Big Little Lies S2, which sucking up all the mainstream HBO oxygen at the time.

    • and everybody had written it off after the Pilot because the first week of “OMG THIS is how teenagers act nowadays, won’t somebody please think of the children” etc thinkpieces and hot takes died down.

    • Zendaya was still a huge star back then but she wasn’t as big as she is now. She really only had a minor role in Greatest Showman and her second Spider-Man film had yet to premiere. Since then she’s won an Emmy, had the Macaroni & Marie discourse, became a fashion icon, starred two of the biggest movies films of the year (including one of the biggest of all time) and is part of tabloid couple with neverending and exhausting press coverage.

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    I’ve finally caught up on this show and …. it is not a good show. Sorry for exposing the naked emperor in the room, but it looks and sounds like a music video director accidentally went to film school for a term. Everyone’s acting is bad except Hunter, who surprised me as a breakout star. Zendaya is fine, but the incessant voiceovers are a cop-out for lacking actual plot (and don’t make sense that Rue would be narrating – she wouldn’t actually care), and when her voiceover is overused with the music video score amping up, I get tired of her monotonous voice, and my brain can’t decide whether the episode is starting or finishing (answer: neither, it just goes nowhere). The supporting actors are actively bad. Sam “Nepotism” Levinson is actively bad.

    As someone who has actually lived as full-on as some of these characters are meant to portray, they have missed several opportunities with Kat, Rue and Jules, and I doubt they will get those opportunities back. The abortion plot was the most egregious example of this. This show is a tedious slog, it’s exhausting and not in a cutting edge way. People should just watch the Israeli original series instead.

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    I guess I will be the one to stick up for this season because I’m really loving it while recognizing the shifts between seasons. First of all, this is just a gorgeous show to look at. Regardless of if you think it is style over substance, the style is pretty damn excellent. I don’t find the shift in tone from scene to scene and within each episode to be far off from what was happening in season one, and while perhaps some storylines are getting more shine than others, you can see the concerted effort to give more screentime to characters that were in the background in season one (the only character who has been failed by this is Kat, who is definitely taking a back seat in the early goings here). I’m definitely engaged with the stories but I can’t lie, the style with which the stories are told is part of what is holding me in this world, and I understand if that is not for everyone. Personally, I found this week’s episode to be one of the best outings of the show (perhaps behind the carnival episode and the season 1 finale) because it was so much of everything that “Euphoria” is. There were riotous moments of laughter, deeply upsetting moments of terror and heartbreak, stylistic flourishes, huge acting moments, subtle character development… I totally understand some people not thinking that is consistent or that the parts do not add up to a whole experience, but at least IMO, that’s what “Euphoria” is. The performances remain a highlight of the show, with Sydney Sweeney absolutely dominating with what could be a very reductive and uninteresting storyline. Between this and “The White Lotus,” she is elevating herself to another level. While I understand the plot does not necessarily get pushed forward in every scene, I do think there is momentum in each storyline and look forward to seeing how it all crescendos as we near the midseason mark.

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    Sydney Sweeney was great in The White Lotus (I detested her, so I guess that’s good?!) but the way Levinson uses his male gaze to exploit her face and body is not only sexist objectification, but also detracts enormously from the character. The pouting, the mewling, the boob shots, the goddam carousel.

    It was exactly that episode that Levinson lost me. Maddy and Cassie drop MDMA and then Maddy gets in a fight (?) and Cassie has a (public) orgasm. Two things which are physiologically impossible on MDMA. And yet Levinson was an addict? I don’t believe it. Plot armour, sexism and sexual exploitation.

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    I find the way Sweeney is shot quite uncomfortable. I agree it detracts focus.

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    I spent the first fifteen minutes wondering who the fuck these two boys wereand why  I was being told their story. I love this season alot ,but they need to give Zendaya some fucking material to chew on

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    I feel like Sam Levinson is eventually going to get in trouble or canceled…

    The way gossip is spreading of him fighting on set with Barbie Ferreira over her character and how he’s interpreting larger girls on screen and how Sydney Sweeney had to fight/convince Sam that certain scenes did not need to have her character topless. Yikes

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    Sam literally created this show. And i think its a breath of fresh air. Sydney gets to choose if she wants to be topless or not in a scene, and also tbh barbie needs to be more grateful to even have the opportunity to be on this show.

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    I was feeling down today and was bored and said “why not lets check season 2 out?” And since I really have no spectations for this show I feel like its been decent so far, the plot is a messs but at least most of the acting is good; Hunter, Sidney, Zendaya (not my fav tho) and Jacob Elordi are constantly delivering great work here, and I actually find Dominic to be pretty natural in his role, also Colman Domingo was GOOOOOOOD in the 3rd episode

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    Sam literally created this show. And i think its a breath of fresh air. Sydney gets to choose if she wants to be topless or not in a scene, and also tbh barbie needs to be more grateful to even have the opportunity to be on this show.

    Wasn’t Barbie almost got cancelled already?

    On different note, I don’t know their intention for the first 15 minutes on the third episodes are. Feels like they tried to expand their universe but its just doesnt sit right with me.

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    On different note, I don’t know their intention for the first 15 minutes on the third episodes are. Feels like they tried to expand their universe but its just doesnt sit right with me.

    I was actually more engaged and interested in the first 15 minutes than I was the rest of the episode. I’d watch a Cal/Derek spinoff haha. What frustrated me was how they didn’t incorporate that scene into the rest of the episode really. I was expecting Cal to run into Derek in the present, or there be a more direct correlation other than that time in his life being the reason he is the way he is now? As much as I appreciate a show that makes you think, sometimes I wish this show would spoon feed me a little bit more.

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    I was actually more engaged and interested in the first 15 minutes than I was the rest of the episode. I’d watch a Cal/Derek spinoff haha. What frustrated me was how they didn’t incorporate that scene into the rest of the episode really. I was expecting Cal to run into Derek in the present, or there be a more direct correlation other than that time in his life being the reason he is the way he is now? As much as I appreciate a show that makes you think, sometimes I wish this show would spoon feed me a little bit more.

    You don’t think a show with completely unnecessary and lazy narration isn’t spoon feeding you? The show doesn’t do *anything* because it’s smart lol. Its trick is making you think it is.

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