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    BigJay2012
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    Viola is right about critics (and that includes film twitter)

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    VictorVincent
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    Just give Viola the Emmy for Best Comedy Actress, please!

    I honestly want to see her do a comedy.

    She is so funny on talk shows and now we know she can do it.

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    Interesting reading this because I just listened to Melanie Lynskey on the Little Gold Men podcast talk about critics for about 10 minutes and it was totally an opposite response. I guess everyone responds differently.

    ~Would you mind giving a little summary of what she said please.~

    I found and listened to the podcast.

    Like you said very interesting.

    and honest and refreshing.

    The polar opposite view of Viola.

    I think the backlash really hurt Viola because she is so used to always getting glowing reviews.

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    I found and listened to the podcast. Like you said very interesting. and honest and refreshing.

    Yeah Lynskey certainly gives a counterpoint that peoples’ reaction to negative criticism is always hurt/upset. She gives good examples as to when it was and wasn’t warranted (I think her comment was that she respects critics more if they call out something she knew didn’t work, as long as it was done in a classy/respectful way).

    To be fair to Viola, some of the Twitter reaction wasn’t criticism, it was mocking. Appropriate criticism is “many of Davis’ choices in her mannerisms don’t work for me because XXXX”. Posting videos and laughing is not film criticism.

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    Elsa Korr
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    Everyone is aware of this. I can’t think of a single actor who have ever responded to a negative reception of a performance. You take the good with the bad. So she’s fine with critics when they praise her, but not when they don’t? Goodness. Also her statement makes it sound like she thinks it is critics who are upset with her performance, when it is a vast majority of people including her fans of which I include myself.

    I present you Sarah Paulson, Paul Walter Hauser and (Lord have mercy) Ansel Elgort who has done similar thing before

    FYC:
    Best Director: Edgar Wright, Guillermo Del Toro, Jane Campion
    Best Picture: Nightmare Alley, The Power of the Dog
    Best Actress: Kristen Stewart, Thomasin McKenzie, Rooney Mara, Tessa Thompson
    Best Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch, Bradley Cooper
    Best S. Actress: Cate Blanchett, Diana Rigg, Anya Taylor Joy
    Best S. Actor: Kodi Smit McPhee, Willem Dafoe, Richard Jenkins

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    I present you Sarah Paulson, Paul Walter Hauser and (Lord have mercy) Ansel Elgort who has done similar thing before

    I missed all of these. (I don’t know who Paul Walter Hauser is)

    Was trying to think of someone of Viola’s caliber.

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    Yeah Lynskey certainly gives a counterpoint that peoples’ reaction to negative criticism is always hurt/upset. She gives good examples as to when it was and wasn’t warranted (I think her comment was that she respects critics more if they call out something she knew didn’t work, as long as it was done in a classy/respectful way).

    To be fair to Viola, some of the Twitter reaction wasn’t criticism, it was mocking. Appropriate criticism is “many of Davis’ choices in her mannerisms don’t work for me because XXXX”. Posting videos and laughing is not film criticism.

    The film critics I could find who mentioned her were diplomatic. So I think it’s safe to say she was refering to people online. But fans aren’t film critics. They’re just people expressing their views.

    And in all honesty her performance is unintentionally funny.

    I just feel her reaction to the response isn’t it.

    She quotes a couple of critics at length on her wikipedia for instance.

    Roger Ebert was a huge fan of her work in Doubt and basically campained for her to get Oscar nominated.

    So it’s disingenuous of her to now say critics have no use when she’s totally fine when she gets praised.

    All in all, this will just be a tiny blimp on her sterling filmography.

    My money is on her winning a Best Actress Oscar (and I wish she was up for Lead in Fences).

    P.S. did you guys see her discussing her approach to Annalise Keating in ‘How to get away with murder’ on The View? Loved to hear her talk about that💖

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    Ooof, even the young Obamas were quiet bad. What a loss that we couldn’t just have had a series about Betty Ford. What an interesting story . Surprised more movies about her haven’t been made

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    This episode wasn’t great but I was caotivated by the young Rossevelts for some reason. My grade: B+

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    At episode 4 and this sucks. Episode 3 was a waste and episode 4 bored me to tears. So disappointed.

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    This episode wasn’t great but I was caotivated by the young Rossevelts for some reason. My grade: B+

    Thats Eliza Scanlen for you

    FYC:
    Best Director: Edgar Wright, Guillermo Del Toro, Jane Campion
    Best Picture: Nightmare Alley, The Power of the Dog
    Best Actress: Kristen Stewart, Thomasin McKenzie, Rooney Mara, Tessa Thompson
    Best Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch, Bradley Cooper
    Best S. Actress: Cate Blanchett, Diana Rigg, Anya Taylor Joy
    Best S. Actor: Kodi Smit McPhee, Willem Dafoe, Richard Jenkins

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    Owl-Always-watching
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    I have to say that scene with Gillian confronting Roosevelt about affair was so badly acted . Her running out crying was so bad. I have to blame director for all this great actors doing so badly in their roles.

    Michelle still highlight of it all.

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    This was not the best episode tbh. The fords were the best part followed by the obamas then roosevelts in my opinion.

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    Episode 8 and Davis is still clinging it the lip thing. Horrible! I’m no longer a fan.

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