Golden Globes 2023 – TV Predictions (Part 2)

[Couverture Joined: Jun 16th, 2019 Topics: 1 Posts: 2106 View Predictions]

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Victor wrote:

This lineup feels way too obvious, the HFPA will throw a curve ball here, feeling it.

I can see one of Wednesday and Reboot replacing OMITB. Both getting in would be even more chaotic but not surprising for these people. Abbott and The Bear are the only locks in comedy.

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[Victor Joined: Jun 18th, 2020 Topics: 20 Posts: 9268 View Predictions]

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Couverture wrote:

I can see one of Wednesday and Reboot replacing OMITB. Both getting in would be even more chaotic but not surprising for these people. Abbott and The Bear are the only locks in comedy.

I can totally see The Bear getting nominated in drama. It wouldn’t shock me one bit like how Einbinder didn’t shock me too last year.

FYC:
The HBO darlings everywhere (The Last of Us, Succession, The White Lotus, Perry Mason, White House Plumbers, Love & Death);
The Apple gang (Bad Sisters, Slow Horses, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Black Bird);
Poker Face, The Great, The Bear, Evil (especially Katja Herbers) and The Good Fight.

Please! These gays, they're trying to murder me!

[mariogomez Joined: Jan 12th, 2012 Topics: 0 Posts: 257 View Predictions]

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Victor wrote:

I can totally see The Bear getting nominated in drama. It wouldn’t shock me one bit like how Einbinder didn’t shock me too last year.

Could be because that Actor in a Drama series category feels so empty. I don´t consider neither Considine nor West strong contenders for being nominated. I actually have John C. Reilly in my predictions because of the weakness of the category. I feel HFPA will surprise with one nominee here.

[wolfali Joined: Sep 4th, 2018 Topics: 245 Posts: 37553 View Predictions]

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It has already been said here about how The Bear competing in comedy is category fraud but honestly I think FX is going to come to regret it as a strategy decision by the end of the winter awards season. In comedy the show its going to have a hard time against Abbott Elementary but in drama with how much of a vacuum there feels like there is there right now it would probably stand a strong chance at winning both actor and series over Better Call Saul, The Crown, House of the Dragon and Severance with how much buzz and passion there is behind it that the other aforementioned shows seem like they could be lacking in some form right now. CCA, WGA and even PGA also probably wouldn’t have been as far out of reach for it as they are going to be now. Likewise at the Emmys it doesn’t look like FX really have a strong push in drama outside of The Old Man (which seems to be nothing more than an acting play) whilst they already have What We Do in the Shadows as a contender in comedy and their push for The Bear there could very well hurt their chances of getting two series nominees they would have gotten had they pushed the show in drama.

I mean I’m not complaining. Better Call Saul and Severance are two of my favourite shows of the year and I’d love to see them receive the recognition they were robbed of at the Emmys. But just from a point of awards strategy FX’s gamble feels baffling.

FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.

[kat_ebbs Joined: Jun 10th, 2021 Topics: 29 Posts: 8298 View Predictions]

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The only part of The Bear I think is safe/a lock is Jeremy Allen White.

[Voyage Joined: Nov 6th, 2016 Topics: 2 Posts: 431 View Predictions]

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Is Weird not eligible as TV movie? Or is just no one really expecting it to get nominated?

[Victor Joined: Jun 18th, 2020 Topics: 20 Posts: 9268 View Predictions]

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Voyage wrote:

Is Weird not eligible as TV movie? Or is just no one really expecting it to get nominated?

The latter, it’s in the predictions center.
I had it and Radcliffe for a while but dropped it, don’t be surprised if they pop up tho.

FYC:
The HBO darlings everywhere (The Last of Us, Succession, The White Lotus, Perry Mason, White House Plumbers, Love & Death);
The Apple gang (Bad Sisters, Slow Horses, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Black Bird);
Poker Face, The Great, The Bear, Evil (especially Katja Herbers) and The Good Fight.

Please! These gays, they're trying to murder me!

[kat_ebbs Joined: Jun 10th, 2021 Topics: 29 Posts: 8298 View Predictions]

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If Wednesday had debuted like three weeks earlier I’d have way more confidence in it at the Globes and SAG.

[Sir Shaw Joined: Aug 1st, 2019 Topics: 7 Posts: 1386 View Predictions]

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I get why Netflix wanted Wednesday as Thanksgiving holiday week programming but it would been excellent lead up to Halloween programming as well.

[Voyage Joined: Nov 6th, 2016 Topics: 2 Posts: 431 View Predictions]

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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/2023-golden-globes-awards-strategists-what-to-expect-1235270000/

I think this is interesting. The industry talking about the future of the Golden Globes and how they think if the show next year does well it probably will survive. So maybe the HFPA might go for more popular names and TV and movies where they can this year to try to capture more eyeballs. Or maybe they don’t.

[kat_ebbs Joined: Jun 10th, 2021 Topics: 29 Posts: 8298 View Predictions]

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Voyage wrote:

I think this is interesting. The industry talking about the future of the Golden Globes and how they think if the show next year does well it probably will survive. So maybe the HFPA might go for more popular names and TV and movies where they can this year to try to capture more eyeballs. Or maybe they don’t.

I think there’s a fine line here. My general feeling is if they lean in to the “global” part of Golden Globes and choose well liked things that have travelled well and resonate with people from different walks of life, that’s great. Everything does not have to align with what American critics proclaim to be worthy.

[Drake Cross Joined: May 8th, 2018 Topics: 0 Posts: 24 View Predictions]

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Here’s where I’m at right now:

Best Drama Series:

1. House of the Dragon

2. Severance

3. The Crown
<p style=”text-align: left;”>4. The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power</p>
5. Ozark

Best Drama Actor:

1. Adam Scott- Severance

2. Bob Odenkirk- Better Call Saul

3. Dominic West- The Crown

4. Paddy Considine- House of the Dragon

5. Jason Bateman- Ozark

Best Drama Actress:

1. Zendaya- Euphoria

2. Laura Linney- Ozark

3. Imelda Staunton- The Crown

4. Britt Lower- Severance

5. Emma D’Arcy- House of the Dragon

Best Comedy Series:

1. Abbott Elementary

2. Hacks

3. Only Murders in the Building

4. Barry

5. Wednesday

Best Comedy Actor:

1. Steve Martin- OMITB

2. Bill Hader- Barry

3. Martin Short- OMITB

4. Jeremy Allen White- The Bear

5. Ramy Youssef- Ramy

Best Comedy Actress:

1. Jean Smart- Hacks

2. Quinta Brunson- Abbott Elementary

3. Selena Gomez- OMITB

4. Christina Applegate- Dead to Me

5. Jenna Ortega- Wednesday

Best Limited Series:

1. The White Lotus: Sicily

2. The Dropout

3. Pam and Tommy

4. Black Bird

5. Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story

Best Limited Series Actor:

1. Evan Peters- Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story

2. Taron Egerton- Black Bird

3. Sebastian Stan- Pam and Tommy

4. Michael Shannon- George and Tammy

5. Andrew Garfield- Under the Banner of Heaven

Best Limited Series Actress:

1. Amanda Seyfried- The Dropout

2. Lily James- Pam and Tommy

3. Julia Garner- Inventing Anna

4. Jessica Chastain- George and Tammy

5. Emily Blunt- The English

Best Comedy/Drama Supporting Actor:

1. Matt Smith- House of the Dragon

2. Tyler James Williams- Abbott Elementary

3. Henry Winkler- Barry

4. John Turturro- Severance

5. Christopher Walken- Severance

Best Comedy/Drama Supporting Actress:

1. Sheryl Lee Ralph- Abbott Elementary

2. Julia Garner- Ozark

3. Patricia Arquette- Severance

4. Lesley Manville- The Crown

5. Janelle James- Abbott Elementary

Best Limited Series Supporting Actor:

1. F. Murray Abraham- The White Lotus: Sicily

2. Richard Jenkins- Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story

3. Seth Rogen- Pam and Tommy

4. Michael Imperioli- The White Lotus: Sicily

5. Ray Liotta- Black Bird

Best Limited Series Supporting Actress:

1. Jennifer Coolidge- The White Lotus: Sicily

2. Aubrey Plaza- The White Lotus: Sicily

3. Niecy Nash- Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story

4. Danielle Deadwyler- Station Eleven

5. Laurie Metcalf- The Dropout

 

 

 

[Jays Joined: Dec 15th, 2017 Topics: 1 Posts: 1532 View Predictions]

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Final Predictions

Drama Series
1. Severance
2. The Crown
3. House of the Dragon
4. Bad Sisters
5. Yellowjackets

Alt: Pachinko

Drama Actor
1. Adam Scott, Severance
2. Bob Odenkirk, Better Call Saul
3. Dominic West, The Crown
4. Jason Bateman, Ozark
5. Jacob Anderson, Interview with the Vampire

Alt: Jeff Bridges, The Old Man

Drama Actress
1. Imelda Staunton, The Crown
2. Zendaya, Euphoria
3. Melanie Lynskey, Yellowjackets
4. Sharon Horgan, Bad Sisters
5. Laura Linney, Ozark

Alt: Britt Lower, Severance

Comedy Series
1. The Bear
2. Abbott Elementary
3. Hacks
4. Only Murders in the Building
5. Barry

Alt: Reservation Dogs

Comedy Actor
1. Jeremy Allen White, The Bear
2. Steve Martin, Only Murders in the Building
3. Martin Short, Only Murders in the Building
4. Bill Hader, Barry
5. Mohammed Amer, Mo

Alt: Ramy Youssef, Ramy

Comedy Actress
1. Jean Smart, Hacks
2. Quinta Brunson, Abbott Elementary
3. Christina Applegate, Dead to Me
4. Ayo Edebiri, The Bear
5. Rachel Brosnahan, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel

Alt: Jenna Ortega, Wednesday

TV Movie/Limited Series
1. The White Lotus: Sicily
2. The Dropout
3. Pam and Tommy
4. Black Bird
5. This Is Going To Hurt

Alt: The English

TV Movie/Limited Series Actor
1. Ben Whishaw, This Is Going To Hurt
2. Taron Egerton, Black Bird
3. Evan Peters, Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story
4. Sebastian Stan, Pam and Tommy
5. Andrew Garfield, Under the Banner of Heaven

Alt: Colin Firth, The Staircase

TV Movie/Limited Series Actress
1. Amanda Seyfried, The Dropout
2. Lily James, Pam and Tommy
3. Emily Blunt, The English
4. Julia Garner, Inventing Anna
5. Alicia Vikander, Irma Vep

Alt: Toni Collette, The Staircase

Comedy/Drama Supporting Actor
1. Matt Smith, House of the Dragon
2. John Turturro, Severance
3. Henry Winkler, Barry
4. Tyler James Williams, Abbott Elementary
5. Claes Bang, Bad Sisters

Alt: Ebon Moss-Bachrach, The Bear

Comedy/Drama Supporting Actress
1. Elizabeth Debicki, The Crown
2. Sheryl Lee Ralph, Abbott Elementary
3. Patricia Arquette, Severance
4. Julia Garner, Ozark
5. Christina Ricci, Yellowjackets

Alt: Yuh-Jung Youn, Pachinko

TV Movie/Limited Supporting Actor
1. Paul Walter Hauser, Black Bird
2. Richard Jenkins, Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story
3. Seth Rogen, Pam and Tommy
4. F. Murray Abraham, The White Lotus: Sicily
5. Murray Bartlett, Welcome to Chippendales

Alt: Ray Liotta, Black Bird

TV Movie/Limited Supporting Actress
1. Aubrey Plaza, The White Lotus: Sicily
2. Jennifer Coolidge, The White Lotus: Sicily
3. Niecy Nash, Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story
4. Daisy Edgar-Jones, Under the Banner of Heaven
5. Meghann Fahy, The White Lotus: Sicily

Alt: Juliette Binoche, The Staircase

Three actresses from TWL in supporting is probably pushing it, but that category is such a wasteland and TWL has never been buzzier. I didn’t feel good about predicting anyone else so I went with someone who’s show we know is at least being seen.

[wolfali Joined: Sep 4th, 2018 Topics: 245 Posts: 37553 View Predictions]

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I think my justification for predicting Fahy (alongside Plaza and Coolidge who both feel like solid bets) is that the only alternatives I could really imagine there being were people like Binoche and it just wouldn’t make sense to predict them without predicting their shows to also be able to get something else. I had considered the possibility of The Staircase over-performing here almost like Catch-22 did (there’s something about it that feels very European and I don’t know about anywhere else but it felt like the noise was much bigger over here than it was in the US when it aired) but it has just been performing so dismally since the Emmys and the temperature in the room makes me feel like if there is any show that has a surprise renaissance here after under-performing/being blanked at the Emmys it probably is The Offer.

Nice to see someone jumping on board the Claes Bang train! I had considered predicting him just because the field was so weak and Bad Sisters seems to be accelerating in buzz but I didn’t want to go all out for the show in my predictions (both in order to just deal with my score diplomatically and in order to avoid my excitement at the possibility of the show doing well turning into disappointment if it doesn’t). That supporting actor category is just so thin right now and whilst I don’t know whether I’d necessarily nominate him personally it would just be a whole lot better than some of the other options being tipped there right now lol.

FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.

[Jays Joined: Dec 15th, 2017 Topics: 1 Posts: 1532 View Predictions]

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wolfali wrote:

I think my justification for predicting Fahy (alongside Plaza and Coolidge who both feel like solid bets) is that the only alternatives I could really imagine there being were people like Binoche and it just wouldn’t make sense to predict them without predicting their shows to also be able to get something else. I had considered the possibility of The Staircase over-performing here almost like Catch-22 did (there’s something about it that feels very European and I don’t know about anywhere else but it felt like the noise was much bigger over here than it was in the US when it aired) but it has just been performing so dismally since the Emmys and the temperature in the room makes me feel like if there is any show that has a surprise renaissance here after under-performing/being blanked at the Emmys it probably is The Offer. Nice to see someone jumping on board the Claes Bang train! I had considered predicting him just because the field was so weak and Bad Sisters seems to be accelerating in buzz but I didn’t want to go all out for the show in my predictions (both in order to just deal with my score diplomatically and in order to avoid my excitement at the possibility of the show doing well turning into disappointment if it doesn’t). That supporting actor category is just so thin right now and whilst I don’t know whether I’d necessarily nominate him personally it would just be a whole lot better than some of the other options being tipped there right now lol.

Oh, I’m glad I’m not alone in predicting Fahy along with Plaza and Coolidge. I know it’s more of an Emmys thing to do – nominating more than 2 people from one show in the same category but, like you touched upon, the alternatives just aren’t that convincing. A lot of the shows that were nominated at the Emmys (for at least an acting award or two) but didn’t win, and are eligible here, just feel pretty buzzless. I’m sort of thinking why the Globes would bother? I’m also taking into consideration the fact that TWL is huge right now and is airing while voting took place. It would just be so random to see someone like Binoche over Fahy. It obviously could happen, but I’m leaning towards it not.

And yeah, I’m going overboard on Bad Sisters too but it feels like such a Globes show to me. I also think the supporting categories in general are going to be pretty chaotic lol, so why not the showy villain from a buzzy show getting in. Bang is also a big name internationally.

Regardless, I think the nominations will be verrrry interesting. I just hope it’s not boring lol.