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  • wolfali
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    The biggest question here for me is why Selena Gomez is so high in the odds when she wasn’t even nominated last year for a stronger contending season of Only Murders in the Building? I guess if the HFPA want to attract some press and she’s willing to attend their ceremony they could nominate her but it confuses me as to why she’s a near lock in the odds when almost everyone agrees that this season of Only Murders in the Building is going into the awards cycle with less steam even if how season 2 fares compared to 1 awards wise still remains to be seen. At least with Brosnahan (who I’m not currently predicting) I can understand because they’ve given her 2 wins for Maisel and she’s an easy name-check if they can’t think of other options and Applegate (who I’m currently predicting) has a lot more individual buzz this year than she had for season 2.

    With regards to Cuoco, whilst I don’t have her in, I’ve been considering her really since the Emmys because I think there’s something to say about someone still managing to get nominated in a competitive field when their show more or less otherwise collapses in support and their network is hardly mounting a big campaign for them. Most people who saw the second season of The Flight Attendant seem to have taken to Cuoco’s performance in some form and the word of mouth around her work feels strong enough that if you haven’t seen it you’ve probably only heard good things about her. SAG is a different story of course with Smart, Ralph, Brunson, James, Applegate, Brosnahan, Cardellini etc all in contention but at least with the Globes I think that could be enough because what I find striking about the contenders thrown around in the category is how unclear it is where they actually stand. If we’re going off of buzz and novelty it makes sense for the Globes to nominate Sarah Lancashire and Jenna Ortega. The latter is arguably the breakout star of 2022 in the biggest hit of the year whilst the former is very well known in the UK, playing Julia Child and has a narrative of her performance not having been recognised by any major awards body yet. But neither is a guaranteed thing in spite of the novelty, buzz and passion behind them. I’m content predicting the latter to get nominated whilst I unfortunately don’t have the former but I think all Cuoco needs to leapfrog contenders like both of them and Brosnahan and Applegate is for them to just fall short as I imagine if we’re just going on starting off positions alone she would probably be 3rd. Of course one can argue that The Flight Attendant only did as well as it did at the winter awards and guilds because of the weak competition but it was still up against shows like Dead to Me, The Great, What We Do in the Shadows, Insecure and Curb Your Enthusiasm when it performed better than they all did before it landed 9 nominations at the Emmys. Maybe just like how it ended up repeating its guild performance for its first season at the Emmys it now repeats its Emmy performance for the second season at the guilds and Cuoco holds on?

    FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.


    lenatroid
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    As a Selena fan I am obviously bias and would love for her to perform well this awards season, but the thing I think gives Selena some advantage at the Globes is that her documentary which was a critical and commercial success was released right at the start of voting which ultimately gives her an advantage to some of the people you just mentioned. Also, since the song accompanying the documentary will obviously be voted on, HFPA members might reward Selena a nom for OMITB as a substitute for Best Original Song. This is also a slight stretch, but there are now some HFPA members who are HCA voters who gave Selena the win for Best Actress in a Comedy, Streaming. I know some of these are a stretch and her being so high up is slightly disconcerting, but in terms of her other competition, besides Jenna, she’s had significant visibility at the right time of voting. Something which some of her other contenders don’t have.

    FYC: Only Murders in the Building and The Handmaid’s Tale in all categories including Selena Gomez, Steve Martin, Martin Short, Elisabeth Moss, and Yvonne Strahovski.


    kat_ebbs
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    but in terms of her other competition, besides Jenna, she’s had significant visibility at the right time of voting.

    Arguably more – votes closed quite early which doesn’t necessarily allow Jenna to run on post-release hype

    I will say I think Selena is a bit more likely in year 2 (depending on their overall enthusiasm for Only Murders).

    What is clearly now a three-season or more commitment is likely to help her be taken a bit more seriously as someone committing to the acting side of her career.

    I think she’s also likely to benefit from more international voters (as is OMITB) because, three years in to the decade, it’s one of the few comedies that has garnered ongoing global reach as opposed to domestic.

    A lot of the frontrunners in this category are very domestic especially compared to the stuff that was around in the 2010s.


    Voyage
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    I agree that she’s had visibility and that might help her but also, since they are being broadcast again next year I’m sure they’d really want her there. I think they didn’t nominate her for S1 because they didn’t really see her worthy (even though she should have been) and this time around, another season has come out, she has received more praise for her performance, there seems to be more love for her and a third one is confirmed so I think they might understand she is really taking this seriously and is not just a vanity project. The show is also very global and we are talking about the Golden Globes


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    JV
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    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

    Pretty good choice, honestly. Much better than all the same white comedians and talk show hosts.


    kat_ebbs
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    The show is also very global and we are talking about the Golden Globes

    Yep. I can’t stress this enough. There is a big issue with comedies travelling in the last few years. At least one of Gomez or Ortega – as well reviewed Latino leads in two of the best travelling comedies of the 2020s – should be a no-brainer here.

    If the only diversity in their comedy nominees is Abbott (a very, very domestic hit) despite all their added non HFPA voters based overseas, that is probably a red flag.


    forwardswill
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    How I see things

    DRAMA SERIES
    1. Pachinko
    2. Severance
    3. The Crown
    4. House of the Dragon
    5. Euphoria
    ———————-
    6. Ozark
    7. Bad Sisters
    8. Yellowjackets
    9. Yellowstone
    10. Better Call Saul
    11. Stranger Things
    12. Slow Horses

    DRAMA ACTOR
    1. Lee Min-Ho
    2. Bob Odenkirk
    3. Adam Scott
    4. Jason Bateman
    5. Dominic West
    ———————-
    6. Jeff Bridges
    7. Paddy Considine
    8. Gary Oldman
    9. Kevin Costner
    10. Sterling K. Brown

    DRAMA ACTRESS
    1. Zendaya
    2. Imelda Staunton
    3. Laura Linney
    4. Sharon Horgan
    5. Sandra Oh
    ———————-
    6. Melanie Lynskey
    7. Elisabeth Moss
    8. Emma D’Arcy
    9. Christine Baranski
    10. Mandy Moore
    11. Simone Ashley

    COMEDY SERIES – feels too secure so ripe for an unlisted shock
    1. Abbott Elementary
    2. Hacks
    3. The Bear
    4. Only Murders in the Building
    5. Barry
    ———————-
    6. Reservation Dogs
    7. Wednesday
    8. The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
    9. What We Do in the Shadows
    10. Atlanta
    11. Ramy
    12. Heartstopper
    13. Julia
    14. The Rehearsal

    COMEDY ACTOR
    1. Jeremy Allen White
    2. Bill Hader
    3. Steve Martin
    4. Martin Short
    5. Donald Glover
    ———————-
    6. Ramy Youssef
    7. Nathan Fielder
    8. Kit Connor
    9. Rhys Darby
    10. Keegan-Michael Key

    COMEDY ACTRESS
    1. Quinta Brunson
    2. Jean Smart
    3. Rachel Brosnahan
    4. Christina Applegate
    5. Hannah Einbinder
    ———————-
    6. Kaley Cuoco
    7. Sarah Lancashire
    8. Jenna Ortega
    9. Selena Gomez
    10. Bridget Everett
    11. Ayo Edebiri
    12. Tracee Ellis Ross

    LIMITED SERIES
    1. The White Lotus
    2. The English
    3. Pam and Tommy
    4. The Dropout
    5. Blackbird
    ———————-
    6. Monster
    7. The Offer
    8. The Staircase
    9. This is Going to Hurt
    10. Weird: The Al Yancovic Story
    11. Inventing Anna
    12. Under the Banner of Heaven
    13. Gaslit
    14. Welcome to Chippendales
    15. 1883

    LIMITED ACTOR
    1. Evan Peters
    2. Sebastian Stan
    3. Colin Firth
    4. Andrew Garfield
    5. Himesh Patel
    ———————-
    6. Taron Egerton
    7. Ben Whishaw
    8. Daniel Radcliffe
    9. Kumail Nanjiani
    10. Steve Carrell
    11. Miles Teller
    12. Chaske Spencer
    13. Seann Penn
    14. Michael Shannon
    15. Jared Leto

    LIMITED ACTRESS
    1. Emily Blunt
    2. Amanda Seyfried
    3. Lily James
    4. Julia Garner
    5. Toni Collette
    ———————-
    6. Julia Roberts
    7. Jessica Chastain
    8. Anne Hathaway
    9. Michelle Pfeiffer
    10. Viola Davis
    11. Renee Zellweger
    12. Claire Foy
    13. Claire Danes

    COMEDY/DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
    1. John Turturro
    2. Henry Winkler
    3. Tyler James Williams
    4. Matt Smith
    5. John Lithgow
    ———————-
    6. Jonathan Pryce
    7. Ebon Moss-Bachrach
    8. Tramell Tillman
    9. Christopher Walken
    10. Taika Waititi

    COMEDY/DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
    1. Elizabeth Debicki
    2. Sheryl Lee Ralph
    3. Julia Garner
    4. Patricia Arquette
    5. Lesley Manville
    ———————-
    6. Janelle James
    7. Rhea Seehorn
    8. Olivia Cooke
    9. Yuh-Jung Youn
    10. Sydney Sweney

    LIMITED SUPPORTING ACTOR
    1. Paul Walter Hauser
    2. F. Murray Abraham
    3. Seth Rogen
    4. Richard Jenkins
    5. Naveen Andrews
    ———————-
    6. Someone else from The White Lotus
    7. Matthew Goode
    8. Ray Liotta
    9. Murray Bartlett
    10. Domhnall Gleeson

    LIMITED SUPPORTING ACTRESS
    1. Jennifer Coolidge
    2. Aubrey Plaza
    3. Niecy Nash-Betts
    4. Juliette Binoche
    5. Danielle Deadwyler
    ———————-
    6. Meghann Fahy
    7. Daisy Edgar Jones
    8. Laurie Metcalf


    wolfali
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    Sandra Oh is an interesting prediction. Do you mind if I ask what your reasoning is behind it?

    I guess here’s where I stand in my predictions. I wouldn’t say I’m at all confident in them but I’m also too exhausted at this point from the whole predicting game to be bothered to drastically change them.

    Drama Series

    1. Severance
    2. House of the Dragon
    3. The Crown
    4. Better Call Saul
    5. Yellowjackets

    6. Bad Sisters
    7. Euphoria
    8. Pachinko
    9. The Rings of Power
    10. Ozark

    <b>Drama Actor</b>

    1. Adam Scott
    2. Bob Odenkirk

    3. Dominic West
    4. Jeff Bridges
    5. Paddy Considine

    6. Lee Min-ho
    7. Jason Bateman
    8. Gary Oldman
    9. Kevin Costner
    10. Diego Luna

    Drama Actress

    1. Zendaya
    2. Imelda Staunton
    3. Sharon Horgan
    4. Melanie Lynskey
    5. Laura Linney

    6. Mandy Moore
    7. Simone Ashley
    8. Emma D’Arcy
    9. Christine Baranski
    10. Jodie Comer

    Comedy Series

    1. Abbott Elementary
    2. The Bear
    3. Hacks
    4. Reboot
    5. Wednesday

    6. Only Murders in the Building
    7. Barry
    8. The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
    9. Reservation Dogs
    10. Heartstopper

    Comedy Actor

    1. Jeremy Allen White
    2. Bill Hader
    3. Steve Martin
    4. Martin Short
    5. Keeghan-Michael Key

    6. Donald Glover
    7. Mo Amer
    8. Ramy Youssef
    9. Nathan Fielder
    10. Kit Connor

    Comedy Actress

    1. Quinta Brunson
    2. Jean Smart
    3. Ayo Edebiri
    4. Christina Applegate
    5. Jenna Ortega

    6. Kaley Cuoco
    7. Sarah Lancashire
    8. Rachel Brosnahan
    9. Selena Gomez
    10. Abbi Jacobson

    Limited Series

    1. The White Lotus : Sicily
    2. The Dropout
    3. Pam and Tommy
    4. The English
    5. The Offer

    6. Dahmer
    7. Black Bird
    8. The Staircase
    9. Station Eleven
    10. This is Going to Hurt

    Limited/Movie Actor

    1. Evan Peters
    2. Taron Egerton
    3. Andrew Garfield
    4. Ben Whishaw
    5. Colin Firth

    6. Sebastian Stan
    7. Himesh Patel
    8. Michael Shannon
    9. Kumail Nanjiani
    10. Chaske Spencer

    Limited/Movie Actress

    1. Amanda Seyfried
    2. Lily James
    3. Emily Blunt
    4. Julia Garner
    5. Jessica Chastain

    6. Toni Collette
    7. Alicia Vikander
    8. Julia Roberts
    9. Anne Hathaway
    10. Mackenzie Davis

    C/D S. Actor

    1. John Turturro
    2. Henry Winkler
    3. Matt Smith
    4. Tyler James Williams
    5. John Lithgow

    6. Jonathan Pryce
    7. Ebon Moss-Bachrach
    8. Christopher Walken
    9. Tony Shalhoub
    10. Brian Tyree Henry

    C/D S. Actress

    1. Elizabeth Debicki
    2. Sheryl Lee Ralph
    3. Patricia Arquette
    4. Janelle James
    5. Julia Garner

    6. Lesley Manville
    7. Sydney Sweeney
    8. Rhea Seehorn
    9. Yuh-jung Youn
    10. Christina Ricci

    Limited S. Actor

    1. Richard Jenkins
    2. Paul Walter Hauser
    3. Theo James
    4. Will Sharpe
    5. Domnhall Gleeson

    6. F. Murray Abraham
    7. Matthew Goode
    8. Ray Liotta
    9. Murray Bartlett
    10. Gael Garcia Bernal

    Limited S. Actress

    1. Jennifer Coolidge
    2. Aubrey Plaza
    3. Niecy Nash-Betts
    4. Meghann Fahy
    5. Danielle Deadwyer

    6. Juliette Binoche
    7. Claire Danes
    8. Daisy Edgar-Jones

    FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.


    forwardswill
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    #1205183157

    Sandra Oh is an interesting prediction. Do you mind if I ask what your reasoning is behind it?

    I am scrambling to find POC nominees in a lot of categories. Oh was just Emmy nominated and that category is open. I don’t really expect it to happen I just didn’t feel good about predicting any of the others either so thought I may as well go random ha


    Atypical
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    That’s major for Jerrod Carmichael! First solo black and queer Globes host! Get it. Best of luck to him!


    Victor
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    LIMITED SUPPORTING ACTRESS
    1. Jennifer Coolidge
    2. Aubrey Plaza
    3. Niecy Nash-Betts
    4. Juliette Binoche
    5. Danielle Deadwyler
    ———————-
    6. Meghann Fahy

    Almost 3 people from TWL? GIRL you know who’s coming for you.

    FYC:
    The HBO darlings everywhere (The Last of Us, Succession, The White Lotus, Perry Mason, Somebody Somewhere, White House Plumbers, Love & Death);
    The Apple gang (Bad Sisters, Slow Horses, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Black Bird);
    Poker Face, The Great, The Bear, Evil (especially Katja Herbers) and The Good Fight.

    Please! These gays, they're trying to murder me!


    forwardswill
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    Almost 3 people from TWL? GIRL you know who’s coming for you.

    It’s such a dead category. They should never have split them up. Like Daisy Edgar Jones is in the predictions center top 5. That’s how dead it is.


    Victor
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    It’s such a dead category. They should never have split them up. Like Daisy Edgar Jones is in the predictions center top 5. That’s how dead it is.

    I quite agree, i don’t know why Limited gets a sole category for Supporting. SPECIALLY this year.

    FYC:
    The HBO darlings everywhere (The Last of Us, Succession, The White Lotus, Perry Mason, Somebody Somewhere, White House Plumbers, Love & Death);
    The Apple gang (Bad Sisters, Slow Horses, Shrinking, Ted Lasso, Black Bird);
    Poker Face, The Great, The Bear, Evil (especially Katja Herbers) and The Good Fight.

    Please! These gays, they're trying to murder me!


    mariogomez
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    #1205183756

    Honestly, I don´t care about the CC and Satellite Award nominations, but it was interesting that they didn´t care about The White Lotus. People will say that show came late, but there are nominations in the CC from people of shows that came late, for example: Fleishman is in Trouble (Claire Danes), Welcome to Chippendales (Murray Bartlet).

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