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November 12, 2020 at 9:37 am #1203831786
I´ve watched episodes 7 and 8 of Fargo, and Jessie Buckley is definitely a lock for a nomination and will be the only nomination of a dissapointing season.
November 12, 2020 at 10:21 am #1203831937I do think E. Levy is in though. At worst he’s the Kit Harrington of this year.
Levy is so lucky is category is an absolute wasteland. The fact that any combination entire top 13(ish) can realistic be nominated just says how empty the field it is.
November 12, 2020 at 10:23 am #1203831945The election had already been called over a day before. No one was distracted and it’s a weak excuse.
its literally all anyone thought about for that entire week, and pretty much continues to be
November 12, 2020 at 12:34 pm #1203832254Also, people may have been slightly preoccupied with *other things* last week and didn’t feel the urgency to watch an HBO drama on Sunday night. Just a thought
Don’t disagree that the election was still very much on people’s mind but if what you’re saying was true it would have affected other shows airing that day and during the election week as well which isn’t the case. Like TGLB held stable, Fargo actually increased its viewership…you get the point.
Live viewership might not be as important as it once was but since when have shows lost 2/3 of those viewers in the span of a week? Even flop single season dramas fare much better. It’s still shocking. I guess it remains to be seen if this was an aberration or anything more.
November 12, 2020 at 1:00 pm #1203832288Like TGLB held stable, Fargo actually increased its viewership…you get the point.
Yes but you also have to take into account that FX and Showtime have way less popular and integrated in viewers’ habits streaming services than HBO (not talking about hbo Max but also HBO Go).
November 12, 2020 at 2:50 pm #1203832554I´ve watched episodes 7 and 8 of Fargo, and Jessie Buckley is definitely a lock for a nomination and will be the only nomination of a dissapointing season.
Fargo s4 seems to remind me of Westworld s3 (awards wise not quality wise).
November 12, 2020 at 2:55 pm #1203832571Fargo s4 seems to remind me of Westworld s3 (awards wise not quality wise).
For me Westworld S3 is better quality wise, but both did really underwhelming
FYC:
All things Succession, Severance, Ted Lasso, The Great and The White Lotus! Also, Colin Firth and Janelle James while you're at it.
November 12, 2020 at 2:57 pm #1203832573Gaga? Really?
When I said iconic I was saying iconic in the sense of how surprising it was. I preferred Dunst’s performance but I just can’t say Gaga’s win wasn’t iconic when we’ve been provided with this gif because of it…
November 12, 2020 at 3:05 pm #1203832598When I said iconic I was saying iconic in the sense of how surprising it was. I preferred Dunst’s performance but I just can’t say Gaga’s win wasn’t iconic when we’ve been provided with this gif because of it…
leo seems like he has such an entitled attitude smh
Emmy FYC:
Chloë Sevigny in “The Girl From Plainville” and “Russian Doll”
November 12, 2020 at 3:07 pm #1203832610Also I don’t understand why people are downplaying The Undoing on here. I’m not even rooting for it but it has more buzz than a lot of the contenders in the category and Kidman and Grant are nomination locks at the Globes (and probably Grant and Sutherland at the Emmys considering how empty their categories are) simply because of who they are never mind the buzz or what you think about the quality of their performances.
I mean it’s arguably HBO’s buzziest shows of the second half of 2020. It’s literally everywhere in its promotion and I don’t even live in America. Its live ratings drop for episode 3 is quite surprising I must admit that but the 1.7 million figure HBO has revealed for episode 3 in consolidated figures is still quite impressive.
I think with HBO shows in particular it’s very clear that they do not need to be live ratings hits to get nominated (The Undoing’s live viewership for episodes 1 and 2 is still quite impressive though). Look at I May Destroy You which we know people have been catching up on streaming and talking about.
The fact that <i>The Undoing </i>(if we’re to exclude Bly Manor) has the second highest visibility of any Limited Series post the Emmys deadline after The Queen’s Gambit and is being talked about on Twitter by people in Hollywood (Barbara Streisand, Kerry Washington, Sarah Paulson and many more). I agree and have been saying for two months that The Queen’s Gambit is winning Series and Actress (Taylor-Joy just so much more going for her right now than all the other potential nominees in this race) but The Undoing is quite safe in Series and it is locked for the two acting nods. Hell even Sutherland could slip in (although I’m not predicting it at the moment because that category is packed).
November 12, 2020 at 4:43 pm #1203832810she’s getting it. I’m not sure why people here have been underestimating it.
She’s easily ahead of Ramakrishnan, Demetriou and Awkwafina imo.
November 12, 2020 at 9:00 pm #1203833155she’s getting it. I’m not sure why people here have been underestimating it.
• Not seen to non-British audiences.
• Piper isn’t known quantity / household in the US (neither were Madden or Colman when they won their Globes)
• HBO Max is brand new to awardsNot that any of that really matters because she (and the show) does have more going for it (especially here of all places)
• Brand new show and service
• Will be the first to award a “new star”
• Critically adored, only Schitt’s (96) and Pen15 (97) have higher MC scores.
• Audience hit in the UK.
• No clear frontrunner (remember how Youssef won last year over the incumbent Emmy winner).
• Afterglow love from Prebbles work on Succession.November 12, 2020 at 9:06 pm #1203833174Are we sleeping on Marielle Heller? I think Corrin is 70% likely winning the Emmy and Anderson will win the Globe and CC if Corrin gets snubbed there and probably SAG if any The Crown actress wins but I feel like if Corrin and Anderson split anywhere it will be the Globes.
Not only is Heller in a show that everyone is watching that’s arguably the buzziest (thus far) of the shows that have aired in the second half of this year but she’s also receiving a lot of praises from HFPA members and because of her status as an under-awarded direction the HFPA could also boast they’ve given her something before anyone else has (I know this is for acting but still).
More importantly she’d continue the trend of a Limited/Movie S. Actress winning the category.
November 13, 2020 at 12:41 am #1203833400Yes but you also have to take into account that FX and Showtime have way less popular and integrated in viewers’ habits streaming services than HBO (not talking about hbo Max but also HBO Go).
I still don’t think it’s a strong enough argument to reason that drop.
Anyway, I think forwardswill’s point was if this wasn’t an anomaly, people might’ve been overstating how big of an audience favourite the show was, kinda similar to the conversation around how big Ozark S3 was claimed to be vs how big it actually was. All of us are still predicting multiple noms for The Undoing here and no one’s denying it has buzz atm.
We’ve beaten this topic to death so I’ll just stop here.
November 13, 2020 at 5:18 am #1203833586Not sure how it is anywhere else but here you can already feel the cultural effect around The Queen’s Gambit. It’s literally being talked about in every paper and apparently Eurosport has now bought 2 year rights to broadcast the UK chess championship because of the show.
I’m expecting the exact same thing to happen with The Crown when it releases on Sunday. In the UK the famous Lady Di interview is already a massice story in the mainstream news because a scandal has arisen around specific details broadcast in the interview and tje arrangement of the interview (including the journalist who interviewed Di being accused of making false claims to the public).
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