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    House of the Dragon first look review – this epic Game of Thrones prequel is a roaring success – 4 stars

    Bill Hader and Barry in everything (2 babka)
    The Great - Elle Fanning, Nicholas Hoult and comedy writing and directing

    Severance in drama series, writing, Adam Scott for best actor, Ben Stiller for drama directing, and the whole cast in supporting.

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    House of the Dragon first look review – this epic Game of Thrones prequel is a roaring success – 4 stars

    I think that’s for the pilot which seems pretty well received – I get the impression some of the issues are a little further down the line. I don’t think anyone has seen 7-10 and apparently VFX isn’t completed on parts of 2-6 either (not uncommon for screeners)

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    Emily Alcock, the young version of Rhaenyria, pointed as the MVP of these six episodes. A lot of reviews calling her a breakout star.

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    Slant wtf?

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    Hovering. That’s going to be a tough audience sell if that falls below fresh I think `image

    I don’t think so

    It’s not a brand new fantasy show but the successor to the biggest cultural phenomena of the last decade. It is bogged down by the expectations of the predecessor but it also brings a loyal audience and every casual viewer who was committed to the show won’t mind checking where the show leads (despite the reception to last season). It won’t suffer until it is really really bad in successive episodes (which doesn’t primarily seem to be the case)

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    Allan Veríssimo
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    91% on Rotten Tomatoes now, with 321 reviews, and 69 on Metacritic with 30 reviews.

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    91% on Rotten Tomatoes now, with 321 reviews, and 69 on Metacritic with 30 reviews.

    I think it’ll end up at 80ish (so, still certified fresh eventually)- I have one page saying 91 and another saying 83 (neither certified), but 270/51 rotten is not going to put it in the 90s.

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    at least it shouldn’t be like better call saul with 0 wins after 0 wins, since it should do well in techs

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    The biggest criticisms seem to be that it lacks the scope and character intrigue of GOT, that the flashing back and forth through time doesn’t assist the storytelling, that it feels too focused on being an “epic”. The thing about Game of Thrones is that during its best streaks it felt like a political drama and family drama with a dash of fantasy/epic-ness. And I was hoping this series would capture that. I will definitely watch most/all of the first season to see if it pulls me in enough.

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    RAMIN DJAWADI IS BACK

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXtlYOtjjWw

    This is beautiful

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    The biggest criticisms seems to be that it lacks the scope and character intrigue of GOT, that the flashing back and forth through time doesn’t assist the storytelling,

    Yeah, that’s my overall feel too – I’ve heard that the pilot’s great, but that the structural differences – one family, time jumps, etc – are where audience problems may arise. Who’s to say? Even as a huge GoT fan who feels like I can read the fandom pretty well, I’m not entirely sure where this is going to land.

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    And the first episode has already been leaked online…

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    And the first episode has already been leaked online…

    Well that would explain the IMDB review bombing of 10s and 1s.

    I’m not shocked to be honest, they obviously sent out hundreds and hundreds o screeners.

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    Lack of scope?? Where?? In terms of locations? No jumping between Meereen, Winterfell, King´s landing, Dorne, Riverlands… is this a problem for some people??? Just compare the Dragonpit from GOT and HotD, and you will see who lacks the scope:) The time jumps are little bit more tricky, but I can´t see them jumping straight to the Dance.. They need to lay down the foundation of the era, and unfortunately that means covering something like  15 years. I hope once the cast is final ( I think in episode 8???) that it will ,,sit,, and will be wort it:)

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    The time jumps seem to be the biggest point of contention, at least for non-book readers. There were some at HBO who wanted to start from the Dance itself to not deal with this but I agree with Condal that the first 6/7 episodes are necessary to set up the story and make it richer. The coming seasons won’t have to deal with this problem anyway.

    The spectacle debate is interesting because I have heard many (like NYT) complain that it’s just sitting around and talking a lot so the wildly differing opinions aren’t giving any clarity. Same with whether the show gets progressively better or worse.

    The rest are things I either knew already or don’t have a problem with. Confusing Targaryen names, lack of an immediate hook, not enough fantasy elements or being set in a single location aren’t criticisms that I’m paying any attention to.

    At least the general consensus seems to be that there’s a reverence for the source material that the original lacked and that book readers are most likely going to enjoy it.

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