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  • Chris Beachum
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    Continue in Part 2.

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    CuriousHedgehog
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    Speaking on the topic from the previous forum, do we think there’s a chance they’ll throw Emma in lead instead of supporting?

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    Honestly I’d be very surprised if HBO throw anyone from this show in lead. I think they’ll follow what they’ve done for other ensemble heavy shows in the past like The White Lotus and seasons 3 to 6 of GoT and submit everyone in supporting.

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    I’d be very surprised if HBO throw anyone from this show in lead. I think they’ll follow what they’ve done for other ensemble heavy shows in the past like The White Lotus and seasons 3 to 6 of GoT and submit everyone in supporting.

    S2 of GoT I believe they submit everyone supporting, as well as S7. Isn’t it just 1 and 8 they did lead submissions?

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    I think the most equitable campaigning move for HBO is either all lead or all supporting for the principals. The more cynical take is the younger cast goes supporting, and the “adult” cast goes lead, but I’d be livid if Milly Alcock was shortchanged to that degree when she was so foundational to the first season. If it’s truly split 5/5, then that’s even more cause for an all-or-nothing move, at least this time.

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    Allan Veríssimo
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    S2 of GoT I believe they submit everyone supporting, as well as S7. Isn’t it just 1 and 8 they did lead submissions?

    Season 1 – Sean Bean and Lena Headey as Lead

    Seasons 7 and 8 – Emilia Clarke and Kit Harington as Lead

    Everyone else as Supporting in all the seasons.

    At least, so far as I remember.

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    Season 1 – Sean Bean and Lena Headey as Lead Seasons 7 and 8 – Emilia Clarke and Kit Harington as Lead Everyone else as Supporting in all the seasons. At least, so far as I remember.

    According to an FYC DVD they also submit Emilia and Mark Addy in s1 as lead apparently?

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    Owl-Always-watching
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    I thought Olivia was great. However, my issue is the writing never really gave her a reason for innocent to so tough now. Only thing was that her kids might not inherit throne. For me, the reason for character to go from caring to hating the princess so much was not sufficient enough

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    Season 1 – Sean Bean and Lena Headey as Lead Seasons 7 and 8 – Emilia Clarke and Kit Harington as Lead Everyone else as Supporting in all the seasons. At least, so far as I remember.

    It’s worth pointing out Season 7 in a different field didn’t work (despite them winning best drama) and they are unlikely to undersubmit like in GoT days. I don’t necessarily know what’s right though.

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    The showrunners just announced that there will not be any more time jumps in the series.

    This confirm that the first 5 episodes were really just a prologue.

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    After sleeping on it (given that it was kinda a reset I thought some digestion would be good), I truly think this episode is just okay. The visuals, direction, and performances are great and the opening scene was just terrific, but the time-jump and pacing and writing is just not. The deaths were so nothing (like all of them from the previous episodes have been) because we don’t see the same characters, or at least the same incarnations of them, for more than an episode. It just strips it of any weight. And the way they explained the time-jump and threw us into it was just so poorly done, it was as if I started watching a show from the sixth episode. I feel as if I’d missed so much, but in reality I’d missed nothing. This is pretty much par for the course: the directors, performers, and technicians are doing great work but the writers are mediocre at storytelling.

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    The showrunners just announced that there will not be any more time jumps in the series.

    This confirm that the first 5 episodes were really just a prologue.

    Episode 8 will be the last time jump. The actors present in that episode will be the final versions of each character.

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    Episode 8 will be the last time jump. The actors present in that episode will be the final versions of each character.

    But that’s largely minor characters, correct?

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    Allan Veríssimo
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    But that’s largely minor characters, correct?

    Yes, as far as I know, in episode 8 they will only change the actors who play Rhaenyra and Alicent’s children.

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    And the way they explained the time-jump and threw us into it was just so poorly done, it was as if I started watching a show from the sixth episode. I feel as if I’d missed so much, but in reality I’d missed nothing. This is pretty much par for the course: the directors, performers, and technicians are doing great work but the writers are mediocre at storytelling.

    I felt the same way. I liked the episode more than some prior and I liked the performances but then I started to talk about people about it in real life and it was clear if you were a casual watcher you were completely confused. I’m a big GoT fan but I deliberately haven’t read Fire and Blood (I may later) because I prefer to take a non-bookreader perspective, and whilst I know the main beats, I was quite unclear on just how far we’d jumped ahead. 10 years? Fifteen? Alicents daughter could be 13 or as old as Milly? I am vaguely aware of Ty Tennant being about 20?

    I think once you get rid of the internet’s intense anti Benioff and Weiss rhetoric/obsession with GRRMs “vision”, the truth is this: the complexity of Martin’s work – especially the overexcess of characters – makes it challenging to adapt no matter who is doing it.

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